Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[shapurzolaktaf]

There is a war in Iran. Water scarcity in Tehran which has become critical yet Iran covertly supporting Iraqi rebel groups and cheering for Yemeni rebels. Either apply the same standards on Iran or acknowledge you are obsessed with Saudi and other Sunni states so we can finally understand if we are talking to a rational person or just a troll.

Nonsense. Iran is not absessed with any sunni state, why Iran has no problem with Malaysia, Indonesia, Egypt, Kazakhstan (all Sunni states). We're at war against the GCC (minus Oman) who supported Saddam, Israel and US forces with genocidal intent. We're attacking US bases there to weaken their abilities (they willingly use US against Iran).

 

[muhammed45]

Houthis targeting Saudi backed elements is none of Turkiye or Pakistan business, it is Saudi Arabia who waged a war of agression against Yemen therefore it is not a valid reason to trigger mutual defense articles

People should pay attention to "mutual defense pact", not mutual agression pact

The whole western world stood behind USA esp the Frenchy dogs in NATO. But they failed against Yemen.

What addition/difference could Turkey or Pakistan make?

KSA has made huge mistakes in the past. Allowing US bases all over the Arabian peninsula for example.

Now that they can't ship a barrel of oil to US mainland, they feel threatened. This feeling is a result of internal insecurity. And that internal insecurity itself is a result of depending on foreign support instead of trusting own people.

People of Arabian peninsula never opted for being ruled by house of Saud, it was forced upon them by British colonizers and their agents in the peninsula.

House of Saud can never ever rely on its own people because of the way it gained power over Arab people.

 

[Zartosht]

Funny how you guys are the ones dreaming now. Just 5 months ago, I remember how you guys said after Khamenei, the IRGC would be in control of Iran. I imagine it must be such a disappointment that reformists, in their most radical pro-West form, are in power now and Iran is negotiating with the US every day of the week.


No need to "slip it in". I will say it loudly and proudly: Iran must dump Arabs, either it will or it will be forced to do so as we are seeing right now, and then mend its ties with the United States before it's too late. Since the US will not accept to restore ties with Iran without some level of normalization with Israel, Iran must normalize its relations with Israel even if it's covertly, like every other country in the region. Nothing to slip in, I will reiterate it every time with great pride.

Iranians. Need to have a honest conversation among ourselves about the fundemental role and function of a government

Is it serving and improving the lives of citizens?

Or is it a holy institution from god, whos representative on earth is crown akhond mojtaba, and whos sole duty is to advance supposed islamic causes at the expense of the Iranian people/nation?

Pakistan and turkey just signed an anti Iran pact with Saudi. Every country sees. How stupid Iran is and exploits the situation to their advantage.

The Iranian government is going to pay a very heavy price once this war dies down. Maybe thats the reason they dont want it to end?

 

[BananaRepublic]

How is Houthis any of Iran business? When Iran was supporting Assad and its genocide on its own population, did Pakistan or Turkiye gave advice to Iran not to support Assad or refrain from it?. Assad called upon its ally to fight and kill its own civilians. What's with snide remarks from Iranians that Pakistan can't help Saudi if it calls for help? The double standards are astonishing. When own interests serves, the war against rebels are justified in the name of Shia'ism and protecting the holy sites in Syria. But when it comes to Saudia, suddenly the mood changes and comes the secterian mindset and snide remarks.

It’s Iran’s backyard.

It’s more of Iran’s business than Kuwait is US’ business.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Nonsense. Iran is not absessed with any sunni state, why Iran has no problem with Malaysia, Indonesia, Egypt, Kazakhstan (all Sunni states). We're at war against the GCC (minus Oman) who supported Saddam, Israel and US forces with genocidal intent.

Can add Bangladesh to the list as well. Despite the preaching of US funded illiterate mullahs

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[BananaRepublic]

If I take at face value what you say, then why are you hiding behind proxies to attack Saudia if the intent is to fight them and has only targeted US bases in Saudi sparing Saudi military personnel and civilian infra in official capacity?

The nonsense that is being sprouted is GCC is the enemy but Iran would fight against Saudia through proxies while sparing israel when they open said few weeks ago US planes are flying from their airports to attack Iran and they can't do zilch about it.

Every Arab country is hosting US bases and facilitating attacks on Iran.

They have zero sovereignty and hence not legitimate nation states.

When Iran attacks the Saudis they are attacking Israel.

It’s like your neighbour’s house being occupied by meth addicts. You aren’t going to deal with your neighbour because they have lost control.

You are going to attack the addicts - covertly or overtly.

 

[tsunset]

They went from "unconditional surrender" to this

What a joke if true

 

[BananaRepublic]

Trump is just looking for the next off-ramp.

He will not make a deal because any deal will be humiliating for him.

This thing will run until 2029.

Iran will get a much better deal with the next US administration.

 

[BHAN85]

US never wins wars because their soldiers are essentially whining sissies.

they want the money, they are not defending their country and they know it.

they are defending israel and twisted bankers economic destabilization plans, motivation is zero.

iran soldiers are defending own country. defending the weakest and most innocent people of the country, like minab victims, or the sacrest figures like ayatollah, defending own cities, motivation is full 100%.

usa, at least in afghanistan and iraq wars, their liar ruling elite spend some time creating a narrative of defend own country with 9/11 selfattacks. then they were motivated, to torture prisoners, being war criminals, they were cowards but sadistic cowards, now they are not motivated even for that.

they hasnt even bullshit to believe and to be motivated.

the official mainstream bullshit about iran is stop them from create nukes, who gives a crap about that in usa mainland?

 

[tsunset]

The only way out for the US was just after they sunk Dena and other ships

They could have drawn off after this and declared victory and it would be somewhat credible

It's too late now, too deep in the quicksand, they believed in their own lies

 

[muhammed45]

If I take at face value what you say, then why are you hiding behind proxies to attack Saudia if the intent is to fight them and has only targeted US bases in Saudi sparing Saudi military personnel and civilian infra in official capacity?

The nonsense that is being sprouted is GCC is the enemy but Iran would fight against Saudia through proxies while sparing israel when they open said few weeks ago US planes are flying from their airports to attack Iran and they can't do zilch about it.

Unfortunately you forget that both KSA and Israel have been on the same page until just recently. Both were somehow put in power by the Brits along with Pahlavis of Iran and Kemal Pasha of Turkey.

You forget, ISIS was a co-production of KSA, Israel, NATO and Arab states with Wahabi ideology.

When the kingdom denied any connection to Wahabism, the movement officially died.

But without Iranian fight against ISIS in the beginning, they could turn into the best excuse for Americans stay in the region for an other century to come.

USA creates cancers and uses them to spread tumor in the body of civilizations. ISIS was the very case to pollute Muslim world.

ISIS has zero to do with Sunni masses.

 

[SecularNationalist]

I am happy with the new Pakistan ,turkey,Saudi Arabia defence agreement but not happy Saudi Arabia being part of it. I guess despite knowing the reality we signed pact with Saudis just bcz of religious significance. Though the current Saudi leadership doesn't have a ounce of Islam in them.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Iran will get a much better deal with the next US administration.

Not really. In next elections old scum will be replaced by new scum. Isreali lobby is grabbing the US by its neck.