Historic: India opens IIT in UAE

This is in a way projection of soft power
 
Truly is historic - students take all their experience which goes beyond education and includes goodwill for the instructors, administration and facilities along with the country that sponsors the university back with it.

So this can either provide India with long term goodwill and sponsors that will go a long way... or if they end up giving a poor experience really ruin the reputation.

It will also enforce IIT's brand into competition with the Caltech's and Georgia state with their foreign campuses and open the door for education tourism into India going beyond the current crop mostly dominated by third world allies.
You've made really good points. I did not even consider the last part you mentioned - about India positioning IIT brand alongside US foreign campuses as well as it being a spearhead to increase education tourism in India.

India gets its fair share of foreign students from Africa, Iran, Afghanistan, Nepal, Myanmar, Sri Lanka and Bhutan. Most of these students want to use Indian schools/India as a springboard into the west where their credentials will be better acknowledged than from their native countries.

India does not get meaningful numbers of students from countries with higher hdi/developed other than exchange students.

However i believe that unless india itself reaches around $6000 per capita gdp levels, students from more developed countries would not prefer to live in India regardless of the brand of IIT/IIMs.

And India will likely l reach $6000 per capita between 2035-2040. So this is a while away. Around 10 years minimum.
 
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You've made really good points. I did not even consider the last part you mentioned - about India positioning IIT brand alongside US foreign campuses as well as it being a spearhead to increase education tourism in India.

India gets its fair share of foreign students from Africa, Iran, Afghanistan, Nepal, Myanmar, Sri Lanka and Bhutan. Most of these students want to use Indian schools/India as a springboard into the west where their credentials will be better acknowledged than from their native countries.

India does not get meaningful numbers of students from countries with higher hdi/developed other than exchange students.

However i believe that unless india itself reaches around $6000 per capita gdp levels, students from more developed countries would not prefer to live in India regardless of the brand of IIT/IIMs.

And India will likely l reach $6000 per capita between 2035-2040. So this is a while away. Around 10 years minimum.
Hi,
Yes you are right, while a lot of foreign students from western countries do visit IITs, but they do so mostly as exchange students who spend couple of semesters or max to max a few years. The real shift in this pattern would most likely occur when the per capita GDP reaches at least $6000 which is still a good 10 years away. But I feel the GDP/capita is a rough indicator of the ability of economy to provide high end jobs to the foreigners and not the force behind attracting vast number of western students in Indian universities.
When the GDP reaches ~$8-10tn, then a lot of western students would find IITs a very compelling option because then they would have a ton of relevant R&D jobs in sync with their expectations. While this is changing even now, the numbers (of high end R&D jobs) are just not sufficient to sway a large mass of western students to IITs.
 
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Indians have already been dominant in UAE for decades. They occupy higher paying jobs compared to Pakistanis.

These GCC moron rulers never learn and always want to take shortcuts. Instead of developing their own people, they keep relying on foreigners to do the hard work. Even this shift away from oil is built largely on the back of foreign talent.

From Wikipedia

Migrants in the United Arab Emirates represent about 88% of the population, while Emiratis constitute roughly 12% of the total population, making the UAE home to one of the world's highest percentage of expatriates.

Most of immigrants reside in Dubai and the capital, Abu Dhabi. The UAE is home to over 200 nationalities. Indians and Pakistanis form the largest expatriate groups in the country, constituting 28% and 12% of the total population respectively. Around 510,000 Westerners live in the United Arab Emirates, making up 5% of its total population.

We would welcome 'deserving' students for IITs and IIMs from outer world including UAE, South Asia and Gulf 👍
 
Hi,
Yes you are right, while a lot of foreign students from western countries do visit IITs, but they do so mostly as exchange students who spend couple of semesters or max to max a few years. The real shift in this pattern would most likely occur when the per capita GDP reaches at least $6000 which is still a good 10 years away. But I feel the GDP/capita is a rough indicator of the ability of economy to provide high end jobs to the foreigners and not the force behind attracting vast number of western students in Indian universities.
When the GDP reaches ~$8-10tn, then a lot of western students would find IITs a very compelling option because then they would have a ton of relevant R&D jobs in sync with their expectations. While this is changing even now, the numbers (of high end R&D jobs) are just not sufficient to sway a large mass of western students to IITs.

Even without IIT, Pakistani's influence is waning by us shooting our foot. So this school wouldn’t do much.

here we have news for those Students who want admission in Indian IITs, based in India....... :coffee:
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=> For foreign nationals, including US students, there's a specific quota that allows them to compete for the 10% supernumerary seats created for foreign nationals, separate from the general pool of seats for Indian students

 
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According to the QS Global 200 Business Schools report, Indi .. :coffee:


Why are more foreign students seeking admission in IITs​

You've made really good points. I did not even consider the last part you mentioned - about India positioning IIT brand alongside US foreign campuses as well as it being a spearhead to increase education tourism in India.

India gets its fair share of foreign students from Africa, Iran, Afghanistan, Nepal, Myanmar, Sri Lanka and Bhutan. Most of these students want to use Indian schools/India as a springboard into the west where their credentials will be better acknowledged than from their native countries.

India does not get meaningful numbers of students from countries with higher hdi/developed other than exchange students.

However i believe that unless india itself reaches around $6000 per capita gdp levels, students from more developed countries would not prefer to live in India regardless of the brand of IIT/IIMs.

And India will likely l reach $6000 per capita between 2035-2040. So this is a while away. Around 10 years minimum.

 
Can Pakistanis attend IIT in UAE?

I ask because we're at a point where there's no hope in Pakistan's ability to develop or wield influence as a state.

Unless we see a big change in Pakistan's entire leadership/ruling apparatus, there's no point in expecting any real change (in the status-quo).

So, until then, Pakistanis should find and take whatever chances they have for individual growth and development. If we see a day when Pakistan is run sincerely and competently, it'll need lots and lots of talent and capital. So, let's at least build that as individuals.

There are more Indian students studying outside India than Pakistanis studying outside Pakistan and that number is only going up which raises the question of why?

We Pakistanis should stop complaining and hating each other. This has become quite habitual to the point that it only harms our reputation internationally. if someone doesn't like their prospects in Pakistan, they can always leave.

Anyhow there is no question we must invest more in education and improve our system but let us not discount everthing as bad. Most of the Pakistani Doctors in U.S and Canada are educated from Agha Khan and King Edward. These people should be grateful rather than hating Pakistan because they got to the west because of their Pakistani education Also recently, Quaid e Azam University made it to top 500 which is quiet encouraging.


And finally to your point, Pakistanis will not go to Middle East to study and that too at an Indian Institute. Pakistanis usually go to Central Asia, Turkiye and China and for a good reason. Their education is on par with any country in the developed world and they are cheaper and our people face less visa issues.
 

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