Afghan Refugees op/ed by Ambassador Tariq Osman Hyder

[krash]

Pakistanis (many of them are beghairat).
I can;t believe Pak cricket team is actually playing against the afghan team, what kind of beghairti is this.
They hate us and consider us enemies yet our beghairats are happily going to uae to play cricket with these 18th century tribals.

Extremely stupid decisions and no shame! Why are these people continueing to even bother to play or deal with indian and afghans.

And what will we achieve by it? Let's not copy the Indians in this ridiculousness and leave sports alone. We will fight them where ever the fight is and still play cricket on the field.

 

[JohnWick]

I smell a stinky Indian agent trying to sow discord. I will need to see your Pakistaniyat credentials.

You should not pollute Pakistaniyat.Your beliefs and Your delusion depicts that you are just a rotten Afghan sold out to Indian.

Chitral isnt on the border, what are you blabbering about ? Fencing isnt possible in mountainous terrain which is most of the border and fences are easily bypassed as well.

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This shows you are just an uneducated fool ignorant about Pakistan.Chitral is a border district of KPK with Afghanistan.
I said, Just Go and open Google maps, The fencing is visible in satellite imagery....Trace it From downwards to the Chaghai district and even to the Iran border....
You didn't understand this simple sentence, Due to lack of your Education.

If it was truly fenced and fortified you would have seen fewer militants and less smuggling. You don't because it isn't. Just another scam to get money from abroad.

There is even illegal border crossing on the Mexican US border. Thousands of immigrants Refugees go illegally to European countries and UK.
It. Just improves the situation....
But person with a low IQ didn't understand that thing
I should explain on your kindergarten level

If 100 Cross through border Fencing lower that number upto 10

Of course the refugees can just come back, its been happening repeatedly for last 50 years. It's you that doesnt understand the phenomenom.

Well if they try to come back illegally then bullet will be put through their head it is as simple as that....
However, with Legal documentation passport Visa, there will be. No problem

Killing militants is easy, its changing the environment that creates militants thats difficult and where the Pakistani state fails miserably. Killing militants has been happening for last 25 years now.

Where in the past 50 to 70 terrorists were killed in one go nearly three times in few months?

Your pain shows we are doing the very right thing.
Keep Crying over it.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Chitral isnt on the border, what are you blabbering about ?

 

[nahtanbob]

Again polluting a thread with hindutva logic.

Feel free to open a separate thread regarding "neighbourhood rules" and I will contribute.

There is simply no analogy between heavily armed and hostile Afghan "refugees" in Pakistan and ANY other refugee group in the subcontinent. Literally none.

I know some of you are logically challenged. All of Asia, Africa and Europe have moved away from birthright citizenship. Try asking for Saudi citizenship because you were born in Saudi Arabia.

 

[nahtanbob]

there are no "rules of the neighborhood", each country has its own constitution and citizenship laws.

Given the Durrand line history and all the blowback the level of stupidity is beyond belief

Okay - tomorrow if Afghan migrants demand a separate state and special privileges you know who to blame

 

[Watandar]

You should not pollute Pakistaniyat.Your beliefs and Your delusion depicts that you are just a rotten Afghan sold out to Indian.

You are clueless about Pakistaniyat and smell and talk like an Indian rat trying to sow discord.

I said, Just Go and open Google maps, The fencing is visible in satellite imagery....Trace it From downwards to the Chaghai district and even to the Iran border....
You didn't understand this simple sentence, Due to lack of your Education.

I understand the fence has had little effect on militants, drugs, refugees and weapons crossing the border as fences are easily bypassed. Neither is complete fencing of the Pak-Afghan border possible as it is mountainous terrain.

There is even illegal border crossing on the Mexican US border. Thousands of immigrants Refugees go illegally to European countries and UK.
It. Just improves the situation....
But person with a low IQ didn't understand that thing
I should explain on your kindergarten level

Correct, the fence on the US-Mexico border is also ineffective as migrants, drugs, contraband pass through it easily. It has only stopped natural animals from their annual migrations. Same result in Pakistan.

If 100 Cross through border Fencing lower that number upto 10

Making up numbers to justify failed project. Migratory animals are the only thing stopped by these useless fences. Iran has also built a war on Pak Iran border, has it stopped smugglers or militants ? And that's flat land.

Well if they try to come back illegally then bullet will be put through their head it is as simple as that..

They have been coming and going for last 50 years, Mr Wannabe Rambo sahab.

However, with Legal documentation passport Visa, there will be. No problem

Afghan refugees are recognized by Pakistan and international community and their children get citizenship according to Constitution and 1951 law. Even all this is unnecessary given how corrupt the System in Pakistan is. So you are out of luck.

Where in the past 50 to 70 terrorists were killed in one go nearly three times in few months?

You have been killing terrorists for 25 years, many many huge claims made in the past. You lack the brains to understand its the environment that produces these terrorists thats the problem.

Your pain shows we are doing the very right thing.
Keep Crying over it.

Yeah man our policies in Afghanistan for last 50 years have brought amazing prosperity, security and straategic deepth. Keep it up.

 

[krash]

I know some of you are logically challenged. All of Asia, Africa and Europe have moved away from birthright citizenship. Try asking for Saudi citizenship because you were born in Saudi Arabia.

I've asked you to present the logic of Pakistan's need to follow whatever country(ies) you want it to follow. Present it.

 

[Watandar]

Given the Durrand line history and all the blowback the level of stupidity is beyond belief

Okay - tomorrow if Afghan migrants demand a separate state and special privileges you know who to blame

Given the Durrand line history and all the blowback the level of stupidity is beyond belief

Okay - tomorrow if Afghan migrants demand a separate state and special privileges you know who to blame

This is called being terminally online. Please put down the phone and go outside for few hours.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Given the Durrand line history and all the blowback the level of stupidity is beyond belief

Okay - tomorrow if Afghan migrants demand a separate state and special privileges you know who to blame

You are most likely talking to an Afghan nationalist so he probably wants exactly that

And this is pretty much openly stated several times by Afghan officials and society for decades now

 

[nahtanbob]

I've asked you to present the logic of Pakistan's need to follow whatever country(ies) you want it to follow. Present it.

All the countries in Asia/Europe/Africa follow it. You want Pakistan to be different. I suppose you need to present the logic. Saying it is the current law does not make it defensible

As far as my arguements go

As I pointed out in a response to another person - given the history of Durrand line, all the tensions with Afghanistan - it looks silly to create a long term problem where none exists

Millions of Pakistanis slaving away in Gulf, Malaysia, Europe are not entitled to the same birthright citizenship rules.

 

[krash]

All the countries in Asia/Europe/Africa follow it. You want Pakistan to be different. I suppose you need to present the logic. Saying it is the current law does not make it defensible

As far as my arguements go

As I pointed out in a response to another person - given the history of Durrand line, all the tensions with Afghanistan - it looks silly to create a long term problem where none exists

Millions of Pakistanis slaving away in Gulf, Malaysia, Europe are not entitled to the same birthright citizenship rules.

You claim there's an issue with it, you back it up with an argument. Until you can formulate one, you are wasting everyone's time.

 

[nahtanbob]

You claim there's an issue with it, you back it up with an argument. Until you can formulate one, you are wasting everyone's time.

You cannot come up with a valid reason why Pakistan should have a birthright citizenship policy

 

[nahtanbob]

And what will we achieve by it? Let's not copy the Indians in this ridiculousness

Maybe you should explain everyone from China to Turkey to Malaysia to Indonesia to Iran to Saudi Arabia have the same policy

 

[nahtanbob]

Why not? This law should not and does not differentiate between faith.

In theory yes
Tell us what it will work in practice

 

[Distant_Observer]

Here comes the new scam

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