AJK govt bans Joint Awami Action Committee, notification issued

[hussain0216]

I was hoping that army/GHQ/FM will take a confident move and let PTI freely (despite IK political shortcomings) take part in AJK and GB elections, would had even given them much needed goodwill as PTI can slowly be integrated into to political process.
These actions are counterproductive and will just keep the situation simmering.
This is so heart wrenching.

PTI has commited too much treasonous acts to ever be trusted again

 

[uknwit]

Do it, why would corrupt anyone get off Scot free


What we can't have is endless chaos

I like the way you tactically ignore my posts lol. Speechless or cant face the reality like typical pindi boyses

 

[uknwit]

PTI has commited too much treasonous acts to ever be trusted again

Treasons o bhai na bol nawa kaata khul jaega there most treasonous institution of Pakistan is the holy cow your trying to defend if we go by literal meaning of treason which is

Under Article 6 of the Constitution of Pakistan, any person who abrogates, subverts, suspends, or holds the constitution in abeyance by the use of force, show of force, or any other unconstitutional means is guilty of high treason. This means completely ignoring or trampling the document is the literal definition of the crime.

 

[PakAl]

Our system has been chaotic, we have no period of stable rule, its just a hybrid system with multiple parties and an uninformed electorate

We just need to suspend it and follow a system similar to China and actually try to force change in our country

We should have just stuck with Muslim League, one party system, everyone fights for the MNA, MPA seats for the Muslim League rather than forming 100 political parties, also opposition could have been mixture of politicians and powerful technocrats/experts. But I guess the politicians and people didnt want this.

 

[Waz]

"AJK" was part of Mughal punjab and later on sikhs also made it part of their kingdom. In 1846 British transferred AJK districts to Dogra hindus as a reward for their support. Thats how AJK got separated from punjab on paper.

That's accurate no issue here. Mughal empire fine, but the other two were enemies of ours and hence a separate identity emerged from that. So I will add some details.

We can go back further and if you look it wasn't part of the Punjab region, in the Ancient Period (before c. 1000 CE)Most of present-day Azad Kashmir (especially Muzaffarabad, Neelum Valley, Poonch) was culturally and politically linked to the broader Kashmir region, centred on the Kashmir Valley. It was ruled at various times by kingdoms such as the Karkota Dynasty and Lohara Dynasty. It was generally not administered as part of the Punjab plains. During the Medieval Period (1000–1586) local hill chieftains ruled many areas, Poonch and surrounding districts were often connected to Kashmir rulers, though control varied. The region remained part of the Himalayan hill zone rather than the core Punjab region.

Now going back to the Sikh empire, our people won a magnificent victory in 1810, in the battle that was fought in and around the Poonch–Rajouri/Bhimber area. The Sikh empire was only defeated two other times in battle in present day Pakistan that was the Battle of Attock (1813) and the Nowshera Campaign (1823), both fought by the Pashtuns. Sure their empire won through but that further developed our identity as fierce independent people. The Dogra scum were gifted their part by the British and were hard to defeat due to the British being their benefactors. With the the Second World War around 90,000 of our men enlisted, despite the cries of the Dogras. When the partition happened, we wiped them out as the British couldn't care less. This was primarily fought by us, Pashtun help came later and then the regular Pakistani army.

We do have a unique identity, but that doesn't change the fact that we are Pakistanis and fought to be part of the union. Only the Northern Areas also did that . We should settle things amicably between us.

 

[uknwit]

Do it, why would corrupt anyone get off Scot free


What we can't have is endless chaos

Who would do it? The judges appointed the currupt elites who are selected by the treasonous institution stealing peoples mandates in every elections?

They will give sentences to thepeople who appointed them or there masters? What a joke you really need to wake up bro

 

[hussain0216]

I like the way you tactically ignore my posts lol. Speechless or cant faxe the reality like typical pindi boyses

Your post is stupid, it doesn't reflect reality

We don't have a Pakistani population

What we have is multiple populations steeped in ethnocentrism,
Our politicians are worthless, our awam is ignorant and none of them have any coherent policy or leaders that can lead


The electorates treats these politicians as KINGS

So PTI cult will die for Imran
Sindhis for Bhutto
Punjabis for Sharifs
IK/Diesel/that ANP dick hole in KP

It's endless list of sardars, chiefs, prophets and leaders



I remember going to Pakistan in the 90s and seeing these idiots
It's now 30 YEARS later and it's the SAME dumb fcuks in charge of the parties with their children in waiting

And things are not changing because the awam gives ENDLESS LOYALTY to these leaders, they don't understand the concept of change

They have no manifesto
They have no economic policies
They have no state policies

They spout bullshit but because our awam is so thick,they don't actually demand change


The military for all its faults, is the only professional organisation we have

I'm sure they would love to have a functional political system, so they can let them deal with the shit of Pakistan, but they don't


We need a single party system, where we just accept the awam will stand behind their master politicians so just get Sharifs, and Bhutto's and Diesel and Sardars and everyone else in on the act,

PTI should be their too, but they are currently acting too stupid


Forget the democracy,
Forget the chaotic elections

Just let the different parties rule their respective areas

Just form some coherent policy
Some decent economic plans
Start making changes with the confidence that you will have multiple years to see them through

And at all costs DO NOT BOW TO BLACKMAIL for these different lannats

 

[uknwit]

People here talking about the "THE ONLY FUNCTIONAL INSTITUTION" Is like dubai or saudia media owned by saudi or dubai kings saying according to our nuetral and "totally unbiased investigation" the only person who is most honest and the right person to lead and make decisions is the Saudi or Dubai king

 

[imadul]

PTI has commited too much treasonous acts to ever be trusted again

ok, plz elaborate their five top treasonous acts?

 

[hussain0216]

ok, plz elaborate their five top treasonous acts?

All PTI is doing at the moment is spreading propaganda against Pakistan

PTI can no longer be trusted and their cultish supporters have become a deranged threat

 

[uknwit]

Your post is stupid, it doesn't reflect reality

We don't have a Pakistani population

What we have is multiple populations steeped in ethnocentrism,
Our politicians are worthless, our awam is ignorant and none of them have any coherent policy or leaders that can lead


The electorates treats these politicians as KINGS

So PTI cult will die for Imran
Sindhis for Bhutto
Punjabis for Sharifs
IK/Diesel/that ANP dick hole in KP

It's endless list of sardars, chiefs, prophets and leaders



I remember going to Pakistan in the 90s and seeing these idiots
It's now 30 YEARS later and it's the SAME dumb fcuks in charge of the parties with their children in waiting

And things are not changing because the awam gives ENDLESS LOYALTY to these leaders, they don't understand the concept of change

They have no manifesto
They have no economic policies
They have no state policies

They spout bullshit but because our awam is so thick,they don't actually demand change


The military for all its faults, is the only professional organisation we have

I'm sure they would love to have a functional political system, so they can let them deal with the shit of Pakistan, but they don't


We need a single party system, where we just accept the awam will stand behind their master politicians so just get Sharifs, and Bhutto's and Diesel and Sardars and everyone else in on the act,

PTI should be their too, but they are currently acting too stupid


Forget the democracy,
Forget the chaotic elections

Just let the different parties rule their respective areas

Just form some coherent policy
Some decent economic plans
Start making changes with the confidence that you will have multiple years to see them through

And at all costs DO NOT BOW TO BLACKMAIL for these different lannats

Oh my god let me repeat myself
ppp created by your jornail ayub,
nawaz created by your jurnail zia,
mqm pmlq created by your musharaf,
IK created by your bajwa and you blame the awaam your brain dead or ignorant

These jurnails never accepted the peoples mandate since yahya time when this country wasn't even the decade old. The jurnails started destroying it killing the peoples representatives or imprisoning them and you think awaam is to blame?

The seeds of destructions in every decade has been sowed by these jurnails that the people have to cut these jurnails live on the taxes these jahil awaam pays they have there bars in the basement built by the tax rs paid by this jahil awaam.

You said political parties are cultist where as everyone here and in the country now know who the real cultist racist and supremacist really are.

Jahils are not the problems these parhe likhe jahils supramacist are if only jahalat been the problem than india bangladesh and all the other democratic asian countries wouldn't be in a better state than us at this stage

 

[Goenitz]

We give Chinas example alot like there is zero corruption there we have no idea about the level of corruption in China (maybe more than our gdp in a year) its just that "wo khate hen to lagate b hen" plus the justice system there works on a simple rule your free until caught but when your caught well it doesn't matter even if your xi's son justice will get served.

Here we have no justice just orders written on a paper that the COJP needs to read out of. And god forbid you dont do that you will be a Ghadar for sure but apki leaks b ajaengi and you mamu's chacho's bhatija's bhanja's would suddenly vanish into thin air.

China is basically one ethnicity and one language. Has been a single civilisation for centuries. President Xi has risen from a mayor-level officer to president.

He didn't land the top position like an army general or Bilawal/Maryam. All CCP leaders rise from grass root level. There are so many things and aspects, but people think copy-pasting will work.

 

[uknwit]

All PTI is doing at the moment is spreading propaganda against Pakistan

PTI can no longer be trusted and their cultish supporters have become a deranged threat

Tell me the name of 1 party or political leader which is not created or supported by these jurnails who is responsible for anything which is wrong in this this country or accept your the biggest cultist and jahil out of all.

 

[hussain0216]

Let me add to the above

Take the Sardars in Balochistan

Now the Sardars are S.C.U.M

We all know it, but these dum bastards represent big chunk of the Baloch public

So the Sardars can rape, kidnap, take money from the people, make themselves rich
But the people will give them endless loyalty

It the Military tomorrow went in and destroyed and killed the Sardars and their families, and said to the people "We have freed you, pick your own politicians"
Their would be riots
Their would be anger and fury that we have killed the Sardars the epitome of Baloch honour
Any remaining Sardars would call out to the idiot awam and tell them to rise up to protect them and the public being thick as shit would comply

It's the same for Bhutto's/sharifs/Diesel/ANP Walk dude/IK etc


The problem is EDUCATION
And any attempt to educate the people from childhood which actually gives them the information and confidence and understanding of their REAL RIGHTS and how democracy works is opposed by these multiple corrupt parties and politicians


These politicians and parties to garner power then use the military as a bogey man and blame them.for all ills, whilst they horde local influence and power


Their is NO WAY out of this system, unless we have autocracy, stability and we can force through change and policy

We give the lannats like Bhuttos, Sharifs, IK etc local power,
Take away the threat of change and losing power,
Try to control the corruption

So they are much more amenable to policies of change


The democratic system with a ignorant awam, just means endless endless of the same and manipulation from outside

 

[uknwit]

Let me add to the above

Take the Sardars in Balochistan

Now the Sardars are S.C.U.M

We all know it, but these dum bastards represent big chunk of the Baloch public

So the Sardars can rape, kidnap, take money from the people, make themselves rich
But the people will give them endless loyalty

It the Military tomorrow went in and destroyed and killed the Sardars and their families, and said to the people "We have freed you, pick your own politicians"
Their would be riots
Their would be anger and fury that we have killed the Sardars the epitome of Baloch honour
Any remaining Sardars would call out to the idiot awam and tell them to rise up to protect them and the public being thick as shit would comply

It's the same for Bhutto's/sharifs/Diesel/ANP Walk dude/IK etc


The problem is EDUCATION
And any attempt to educate the people from childhood which actually gives them the information and confidence and understanding of their REAL RIGHTS and how democracy works is opposed by these multiple corrupt parties and politicians


These politicians and parties to garner power then use the military as a bogey man and blame them.for all ills, whilst they horde local influence and power


Their is NO WAY out of this system, unless we have autocracy, stability and we can force through change and policy

We give the lannats like Bhuttos, Sharifs, IK etc local power,
Take away the threat of change and losing power,
Try to control the corruption

So they are much more amenable to policies of change


The democratic system with a ignorant awam, just means endless endless of the same and manipulation from outside

Good thing you mentioned sardars. Now tell me who supported these sardars during martail laws made them stronger through there support so they can be used to control our western borders during early years and more so during the cold war era have read that part of the history or tatically ignored that too because it was stupid since your divine jurnails were being implicated? Or the sindhi landlords or pakhtoons sardars?

When goverments are based on gun point they need all the support they could get that is why we still see "elactables" in our system till now and not just internal validation through these dark means but external validations as well and you cant get those without a trade of "kuch lo kuch do" and look how that turns out to be.

Your jurnails lost half the country burned western borders because well you needed validation so you had to fight their wars against your own people or use your own people for so called jihads so made them jihadis promoted religious extermism which came back to bite our ***.

Its what your jurnails sowed that we the bloody civilians are reaping.