An Indian Tejas fighter jet crashed during an aerial display at the Dubai Air Show

[Muji.Iqbal]

Same question as asked of Dalit; is that your conclusion of the Polish F-16 crash?

Polish airforce does not have the same reputation of losing aircraft like the Indian airforce.

This is comparing apples to oranges.

And even I reach the same conclusion of the Polish F-16 crash. Why not?

The Polish F-16 may also be of faulty hardware. Just because its made in USA does not mean is a great product

 

[Be dazzled]

Just sick mentality - and that's their so called reputable defence journalists.

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Some of them truly don't deserve it but than one has to realize the difference and act accordingly. Social media is justifying the crash by any means necessary but it looks absurd.

 

[Dalit]

Same question as asked of Dalit; is that your conclusion of the Polish F-16 crash?

Again, your comparison is as faulty as the mediocre Indian Air Force.

The Polish Air force is a very decent respected Air force. The Polish pilots would eat the Indians for breakfast and dinner. Indians lack nutrition and training. It starts with the upbringing. Indians aren't made for air combat.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

You comparison is as faulty as the mediocre Indian Air Force.

You are right about that, Sir.

 

[ThrustVector998]

Let's not forget Aerobatics can be fatal so hope Indians can learn from this investigation and implement more safety nets. I remember when we lost our Ace WC Noman and I hope no airforce suffers a tragic loss of their demo pilots
First Tiger Demo Team
Now Tejas
Sad

 

[meh_analysis]

On paper I can defeat Messi and Ronaldo on a football pitch...

Nah uh. But yeah good argument, however we shouldn't underestimate our adversary. We have already been humbled in 65, a man learns once. The IAF is a very competent airforce, it could easily beat contemporary airforces that isn't in the top 10. The problem is that they face a airforce which could very easily be on par or surpass Israeli airforce in discipline and ability.

 

[Dalit]

Nah uh. But yeah good argument, however we shouldn't underestimate our adversary. We have already been humbled in 65, a man learns once. The IAF is a very competent airforce, it could easily beat contemporary airforces that isn't in the top 10. The problem is that they face a airforce which could very easily be on par or surpass Israeli airforce in discipline and ability.

I know who you are. Don't think that I am a fool. You are a multi ID rat.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Despite having 1.45 billion brains, this shows that the Indian manufacturing industry is not mature yet at least in aviation.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Polish airforce does not have the same reputation of losing aircraft like the Indian airforce.

This is comparing apples to oranges.

And even I reach the same conclusion of the Polish F-16 crash. Why not.

The Polish F-16 may also be of faulty hardware. Just because its made in USA does not mean is a great product, you moron.

So resorting to ad hominem attacks is part of your response? Quite impressive. How incredibly mature of you.

The point I'm making is we have a pilot flying a high performance aircraft doing maneuvers at low level. None of us, outside of one person, was there. None of us know what was happening in that cockpit at the time of the accident. And, none of us know what caused that aircraft to pancake in.

And yet, the herd here all seem to know what the cause was.

Amazing. Perhaps the accident investigators will consult you.

 

[samsite84]

Crashes can and will happen. Not the first time, not the last. Condolences to the fighter pilots family and Om shanti to departed soul.

This is tough but onwards and upwards

 

[Dalit]

Despite having 1.45 billion brains, this shows that the Indian manufacturing industry is not mature yet at least in aviation.

India is an artificial entity trumped up by the Americans and Western nations against China. Had China not been there, India would not be a 4 trillion dollar economy today.

 

[Ibbi32]

Mig-21 are notorious to maintain. Even PAF had a staggering 22% accident rate with F-7 if you consider the period of crashes being from only 50-60 F-7. Plus Pakistan had experience with an even worse Soviet design, the Mig-19 farmer. Not to mention the Mig-21 was the first supersonic aircraft of the IAF and was extensively used since it's induction, plus the Indians just don't do maintenance like our PAF boys.

Mig-19s and mig-21s were widowmakers in paf service. But as with any professional force we should look inwards on planes not pilots. F-104 was known as a widowmaker in German service and had a simmilarly bad loss rate due to a multitude of factors but mostly poor pilot training. Comparatively not one f-104 in pakistani service was lost in an accident (mostly because only elite pilots were allowed to fly and there were so few airframes and even those were sanctioned) but it does show what different forces practices can lead to a result. Compared to the indians we effectively matched their crash rate till early 2000s. Look up the ridiculous number of crashes of legacy mirages and f-7s and f-16 from that time. However we then improved drasticaly. Look at f-16 for example 8 losses between 1987-1997 and then only 2 losses between 1997-2025. The fact of the matter is PAF is a professional airforce that doesnt blame the aircraft or the pilot but looks inwards and improves upon itself to not let more accidents happen. Compared to india we are miles ahead

 

[meh_analysis]

I know who you are. Don't think that I am a fool. You are a multi ID rat.

Man. I'm saying we shouldn't underestimate the IAF or their pilots, which have been credited by other nations. This doesn't change the fact that we're better than them in discipline, tactics, training, etc. I think it should be a compliment, their competency makes our competency shine even brighter. It goes to show, if we had been with a weaker opponent then we would've absolutely trashed them.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

So resorting to ad hominem attacks is part of your response? Quite impressive. How incredibly mature of you.

The point I'm making is we have a pilot flying a high performance aircraft doing maneuvers at low level. None of us, outside of one person, was there. None of us know what was happening in that cockpit at the time of the accident. And, none of us know what caused that aircraft to pancake in.

And yet, the herd here all seem to know what the cause was.

Amazing. Perhaps the accident investigators will consult you.

I am a 34 year old man. Well almost in March. You do not need to teach me about maturity.

Just because something is made by American does not guarantee quality.

There are many things even India does better than USA, but in manufacturing, that is not one of them.

I know India is Pakistan's enemy.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

India is an artificial entity trumped up by the Americans and Western nations against China. Had China not been there, India would not be a 4 trillion dollar economy today.

That is true. That is why we Pakistanis and OIC should help China grow as much as possible.

We should help the Chinese economy.