An Indian Tejas fighter jet crashed during an aerial display at the Dubai Air Show

[johukum]

This looks like AI generated photo. Not how the salute is done.

Here is the link:

HAL Tejas aircraft crash: Wing Commander Afshan breaks down during funeral of husband and IAF pilot Namansh Syal | Today News

IAF Wing Commander Afshan Akhtar broke down at the funeral of her husband, Wing Commander Namansh Syal, in Himachal Pradesh today. Syal died in the HAL Tejas jet crash at the Dubai air show on 21 November.

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[Mobius]

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[Al-Zakir]

@clutch

In a prolonged conflict between Pakistan and India

Relax. There won't be any. Both countries have other priorities-mainly wellbeing of their citizens.

Regards

Didn't your country attack Pakistan for no valid reason?

If you had been successful in your mission, we would be having a different conversation right now. So, nobody believes your nonsense.

 

[ThoroughPro]

He pointed out the ejection attempt....I mentioned in my post too

there was no ejection, the parachute came out after the plane hit the ground, in ejection seat shoots out of the canopy not the parachute.

 

[Khanivore]

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CORRECTION (if I may): There is 59 Jaguar accidents and losses in Indian air force, alone! -- source
@SABRE

 

[UndercoverJIX]

The instability of the jet while it's sideways i.e. the endpoints of the wings swaying and not in line, and the nose pitch (up and down) - is because of Relaxed Static Stability Delta Wing design - the design is deliberately unstable and the vertical back and forth sway b/w wing endpoints is because of realtime Elevon compensation being provided by FBW system. What I mean to say is that pilot only has to command the Aircraft to turn on it's side and has no direct control to keep it stable in that position.

What I'm pondering is that the pilot may have experienced G-LOC/A-LOC but probably not because he was untrained but as result of FBW system malfunction to keep the aircraft stable during the maneuver.

I understand what you are saying, but ompare the stance, stability and smoothness of both instances.....In side by side comparison clips.

G affect should have started after the pull, but jet started to misbehave before that.

May be I am trying too hard to blame the machine.

 

[hnn]

I understand what you are saying, but ompare the stance, stability and smoothness of both instances.....In side by side comparison clips.

G affect should have started after the pull, but jet started to misbehave before that.

May be I am trying too hard to blame the machine.

Aren't we both blaming the machine? That's what my whole hypothesis is lol - malfunction with FBW causing the inherent RSS instability to manifest.

And yes, the disturbance you mentioned that's also what I'm mentioning haha. I'm building further on top of that i.e. the FBW had a malfunction and wasn't able to stabilize the aircraft which led to a higher G maneuver that probably had the pilot partially lose consciousness (if at all?) and then the aircraft never recovered from the stall.

 

[Yasser76]

CORRECTION (if I may): There is 59 Jaguar accidents and losses in Indian air force, alone! -- source
@SABRE

59 according to this database

Officers Database

Bharat Rakshak's Indian Air Force Site

www.bharat-rakshak.com

Considering they only had 160 in total, that is around a third of the fleet crashing.

 

[Gripen9]

Here is the link:

HAL Tejas aircraft crash: Wing Commander Afshan breaks down during funeral of husband and IAF pilot Namansh Syal | Today News

IAF Wing Commander Afshan Akhtar broke down at the funeral of her husband, Wing Commander Namansh Syal, in Himachal Pradesh today. Syal died in the HAL Tejas jet crash at the Dubai air show on 21 November.

www.livemint.com

In that case, bad saluting discipline unfortunately from the W/Cmdr.
IAF, like PAF follow the RAF salute where your arm comes from the side parallel to shoulder and your index and middle finger should be just touching your peak cap where your eye brow is. Unless IAF changed it to follow the U.S.

I know I am nitpicking and she is a grieving widow but these things matter especially when you are honoring a fallen comrade.

 

[UndercoverJIX]

Aren't we both blaming the machine? That's what my whole hypothesis is lol

And yes, the disturbance you mentioned that's also what I'm mentioning haha. I'm building further on top of that i.e. the FBW had a malfunction and wasn't able to stabilize the aircraft which led to a higher G maneuver that probably had the pilot partially lose consciousness (if at all?) and then the aircraft never recovered from the stall.

LOL as I said, I might b trying too hard to convince myself.. not opposing any of your points.

 

[Ak01]

You don't get the idea of distance/depth from inside the cockpit.

this is literal nonsense

 

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this fake , pls we have already won the export game we dont have to lie

 

[UndercoverJIX]

It doesn't have to be FBW or Hi Tech . Simple competence and KNOWING the aircraft is enough. Provided of course the aircraft has no technical problems and is designed well.
The following example at a community air show of a PRIVATELY owned Mig 17 Fresco performing aerobatics flown by a CIVILIAN pilot is stark. Look at point 4.04 in the video below. The Fresco is just 3 meters from the ground, yet the pilot has full control and pulls safely up.
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yeaaaa, but when FBW and gazillions of gizmos are there, it limits the Pilot control, and a split second glitch can cause disaster, a very very tiny change in sensors behavioue will kill the pilot and jet at those speeds, while Gizmos will prevent the Pilot from making any correction.

 

[hnn]

LOL as I said, I might b trying too hard to convince myself.. not opposing any of your points.

Haha. I think it's more probable that the machine had an issue because Tejas can't fly stable without the FBW system, the design doesn't allow that - kind of like F-117 Nighthawk - and the way the airframe was a bit unstable and swaying while moving into the maneuver is probably the FBW malfunctioning because that sway can't be a pilot command as he doesn't have direct control over Rudder and Elevons, once the aircraft turned on it's side the pilot only has to maintain the necessary thrust, everything else is calculated and adjusted by the FBW system.