Arab Gulf states… a strategic victory without war

[VCheng]

Gulf countries have such a strangehold on petroleum that multiple discoveries have not changed the fundamental calculus

I would love to see some data that supports your statements above, thanks.

 

[The SC]

Interesting, especially when one considers that GCC countries have been very consistent in their message to USA that a nuclear armed Iran was totally unacceptable to them, and that they would be forced to go nuclear as well.

The bases were created as part of that commitment to prevent Iran from going nuclear, and what you say is merely a veneer of pretending to look the other way to appear clear of their own involvement in this whole process.

That will fool only the gullible.

Just before this war there was no beef between the GCC and Iran..might be because the latter assured them it won't go nuclear.. like it has convinced Trump now.. But the real entity that was after Iran going nuclear is Israel..Natanyahu was boosting last week that he was fighting the Iranian nuclear program for the last 35 years non-stop..

The GCC was concerned too but they've got reassurance from Iran ..that's why the relationship sponsored by China have succeeded..and since than everything was going smoothly between them..This last war just shook up that smoothness..and who else could have benefited from this shake up apart from Israel..

 

[VCheng]

might be because the latter assured them it won't go nuclear.

The GCC was concerned too but they've got reassurance from Iran

And we know this how, exactly, Sir?

 

[The SC]

The US military bases in these Persian Gulf Shaikdoms were used by US and Zionazis to attack Iran which is clearly act of war. Reports indicate the UAE carried out secret military strikes against Iranian energy installations, including an April attack on an oil refinery on Lavan Island in the Persian Gulf. These operations mark the first time a Gulf nation has engaged directly in the ongoing U.S.-Israeli conflict with Iran.Key Details & RetaliationSecret Strikes: According to reports in the The New York Times and the Independent, these apparent attacks were aimed at protecting the UAE's economic interests following attempts by Tehran to damage Gulf oil and gas facilities.Barakah Nuclear Plant Attack: In retaliation, Iran or its allied regional proxies have heavily targeted the UAE.

Nope..the US didn't attack from there..they've attacked from their aircraft carriers and from Israel.. ans since Iran couldn't do much about that it has attacked their bases in GCC that weren't used..considering them legitimate war targets..these are the facts..

 

[The SC]

And we know this how, exactly, Sir?

Check the Chinese mediation/commitment and what has happened to the relationships after that..it is simple to understand..

 

[VCheng]

Check the Chinese mediation/commitment and what has happened to the relationships after that..it is simple to understand..

So nothing more than "trust me, bro!".

There is simply nothing to support the claims made here, Sir.

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What is clear that Iran continued to invest billions upon billions into enriching weapons-grade uranium, as well as all needed ancillary technologies to deliver such weapons.

 

[The SC]

So nothing more than "trust me, bro!".

There is simply nothing to support the claims made here, Sir.

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What is clear that Iran continued to invest billions upon billions into enriching weapons-grade uranium, as well as all needed ancillary technologies to deliver such weapons.

You are missing a lot of information my friend; Iran said a long time ago that it wanted to enrich Uranium up to 60% for submarine nuclear reactors not nuclear bombs..so go figure how that has been interpreted by Israel and most of the West..

 

[mythbuster]

Gulf countries have such a strangehold on petroleum that multiple discoveries have not changed the fundamental calculus

shutdown of strait of Hormuz would have been unthinkable in the 1980s

Their cost of production is lowest in the world ....they can make profit even at $ 10 a barrel.

 

[VCheng]

You are missing a lot of information my friend; Iran said a long time ago that it wanted to enrich up to 60% for submarine nuclear reactors not nuclear bombs..so go figure how that has been interpreted by Israel and most of the West..

Fair enough, let us see what happens to the HEU at this point. That will tell us all a lot.

 

[mythbuster]

You are missing a lot of information my friend; Iran said a long time ago that it wanted to enrich Uranium up to 60% for submarine nuclear reactors not nuclear bombs..so go figure how that has been interpreted by Israel and most of the West..

" Submarine nuclear reactors " ..are you buying this claim from the twilight zone ?

 

[_Arabia_]

What is the point and logic of lumping all GCC states together? Next, why not lump all 20 + Arab countries together from Mauritania to Comoros?

KSA (by far the largest country in the region and by far the richest in terms of natural resources and economic size, and the best performing in terms of almost all economic indicators), for instance, was virtually left untouched by this conflict. In fact, KSA only gained from this conflict.

Economically (record-high oil revenues), KSA is becoming even more of a regional aviation hub (the airspace of KSA became one of the busiest in the world, and the conflict never impacted us in this regard—nor in terms of tourism numbers, Umrah, or Hajj). Barely anything of value was ever hit in KSA, to begin with, let alone damaged or destroyed.

Geopolitically, the conflict also once again underscored that KSA is the backbone of the GCC and that KSA kept the smaller GCC states alive economically, trade-wise, logistically, and even to an extent militarily.

The biggest loser in the GCC, by all accounts, is the UAE, which has steered a largely confrontational policy towards KSA. Being the main economic rival in the GCC as well. So by all accounts, Iran did us a favor here.

Meanwhile, much of Iran's leadership was annihilated; they suffered tens of thousands of casualties (in comparison, one Saudi Arabian oil engineer became a martyr, and two Bangladeshi migrants perished when debris from an intercepted missile fell in Al-Kharj Governorate), $300 billion USD in material damages, and likely the end of their nuclear ambitions for the foreseeable future, etc.

And no, contrary to popular belief, it suits KSA fine to have some backward mullahs running Iran into the ground. The most important thing here (where KSA played a key role) was to weaken the Iranian regime's tentacles in the Arab world. What is left is only a further weakened Hezbollah proxy. Iraq (as a state—the official Iraqi military has closer ties with KSA than with Iran, for instance) did not side with Iran, and most importantly for KSA, the Houthis did not do anything of note and never even attacked KSA once.

Lastly, only a fool believes that this is "over." Real long-term conclusions cannot be drawn already but will likely take years to manifest.