Falcon29
Elite Member
You make some intelligent observations that I do not disagree but I think that you are too soft and naive, with all due respect, when it comes to the role of the Iranian regime here. Don't forget that the very same Iranian regime has been a MASSIVE reason for fitnah, opportunistic meddling in the Arab world and in some places outright support for mass-murder of Arabs and Muslims (Iraq and Syria). They never lifted a finger for Gaza or Palestine until they were attacked by Israel and the US directly. Don't conflict their attacks on Israel as some kind of defense or care for Palestinians. It would be a big mistake. Not even Hamas officials belief this.
We have 47 years of their history in front of us and their track record in the region. They never changed. That is why they have been a constant source of instability and why they are rightly viewed as an enemy of Arabs in many ways (certainly many their regional policies) and many of us view them similarly as the Zionists. Both support the fragmentation and division of the Arab world and our lands and countries. Look at the separatists that Israel is supporting in the Arab world. Iran has been doing the exact same thing since 1979 - just with their own proxies. We cannot and will not tolerate this any longer.
It is very possible, and I personally believe this, that Israel is actively trying and looking for a wider GCC/Arab-Iran conflict. We have semi-official Israeli figures saying it openly as well. I linked to the absurd X posts of that Edy Cohen Zionist (Arab Lebanese Jew). He has 1 million followers on X on his Arabic account. Look at his obsession and insults aimed at KSA constantly. I just discovered him today.
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But even if Israel is actively trying to light a fire, you cannot expect GCC states to remain silent if Iran continues to fire missiles and drones - no matter how little destruction they do overall, it is a economic, security and geopolitical burden. There are millions of stranded tourists alone. I saw numbers of 300.000 UK citizens alone. Those are massive numbers. You also have the dimension of the oil and gas export and world energy that world powers, China in particular, relies on. This is not sustainable.
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Remember, KSA is not a part of all this mess. We don't host any US bases or any foreign bases. All that we allowed was for the US to use the Prince Sultan Air Base as a transit base. No offensive operations have been conducted from KSA.
Which is why you have Iranian officials openly saying that they have not targeted KSA. Whether this is true or not we will soon figure out.
However KSA is mostly untouched and even if we were attacked - remember that KSA is a massive country. Almost 1.5 times the size of Iran.
In fact bigger than Iran and Iraq combined.
From South to North the distance is half of the distance between NYC and LA to put it into perspective. The distance from East to West is like the distance between Scandinavia and Southern Italy.
A few drone and missile attacks is not going to change anything. Remember that we also have one of the world's most extensive air defenses with THAAD, Patriot and numerous other systems as well as 10 + years of experience dawning ballistic missiles and drones just across the mostly very mountainous border with Yemen and almost all over KSA.
Until the Ukraine-Russia war we had the world record in terms of intercepting missiles and drones. Prior to that Israel never intercepted anything this sophisticated so I don't include them.
Disagreement is healthy. This is why I enjoy having your perspective as you're quite intelligent and familiarized with the history of the region.
This isn't my war so I wouldn't say I'm soft. Obviously I hope this doesn't embolden Israel and the US to 'finish the job' in Gaza. If Arabs can secure general stability of ceasefire in Palestine, then that will assure some peoples hearts in the region.
I certainly don't believe GCC Arabs are soft. They aren't and that's what I told Iranians in the main thread. And if you guys have decided the cost is worth it for this regime change war to happen, then it may indeed be for GCC. I know there is severe historical bad blood between you two. Was hoping all parties began maturing and from looks it some parties began having some understandings , and Gaza ironically precipitated fall of Assad of regime (indirect role, direct credit goes to Syrians ) . And when I saw Iran and others (not the trolls on forum who clearly aren't over it) mature and just accept Syria went back to majority rule, I was seeing that as a good sign we can begin to work on shelving this historical bad blood.
Anyway the stuff you see me posting in main thread is me narrative building against Israel as that's our general interests as Palestinians. I don't actually believe Iran can ruin Israel. Egypts is the most credible threat against Israel. Before this war and during it. But I have interest in narrative building against Israel as I don't want them trying to seize any opportunity to narrative build about what Arab world should be like or that we should develop relations with them. Partially because of the occupation but also tbh its more so ideologically motivated, I do not like them as a people and believe them to be raging selfish narcassists.





