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KSA is completely peaceful and nothing of worth has been touched let alone destroyed. Life continues as normal in every sphere, whether daily life, sports, international events, Umrah, economy etc.
In fact KSA is the biggest beneficiary of this conflict so far.
95% of what is reported on this forum and on X is utter delusional nonsense.
A good example:
Iran has had 10.000's of casualties, their leadership annihilated, 100's of billions of USD in material loses, most of their Air Force and navy annihilated, their missiles severely depleted, 100's of bases targeted and other infrastructure.
KSA in return has lost 2 people (1 Indian and 1 Bangladeshi expat), no material damage whatsoever other than very limited damage in Ras Tanura and Yanbu and nothing of worth destroyed in the Prince Sultan Air Base.
No amount of firecrackers (drones and Russian/Chinese/North Korean origin missiles) is going to change anything of notice in a country like KSA which is 1.5 times the size of Iran.
During the past 3-4 weeks KSA has made more money selling oil than the previous 3 months:
oilprice.com
While the Arabized Mullah enemy regime is getting carpet bombed and humiliated in front of the entire world, 1 sovereign wealth fund from KSA (PIF) has within just the span of 12 months earned the equivalent of 3/4 of the entire Iranian GDP.
02/01/2026 Argaam
Logo of Public Investment Fund (PIF)
The Public Investment Fund (PIF) ranked fifth among the world’s largest sovereign wealth funds (SWFs), after its net assets amounted to $1.15 trillion, recent data from the SWF Institute showed.
PIF's assets rose by $226 billion from $925 billion by the end of December 2024.
www.argaam.com
Ukrainians are probably the most talented and capable people in the world in this regard. Their experience and sharing of intelligence is invaluable. KSA has been a good friend towards Ukraine as well and KSA is trusted by Ukraine.
Numerous Chinese drones have been made within KSA for years - several local alterations exist as well.
Extremely interesting what our friend Faisal Abbas spoke about concerning the KSA-Ukraine deal of purchasing Ukraine drone technology. Apparently the Ukrainian army has great success stopping Russian drones with drones that cost just 1000 USD to produce. KSA will acquire this technology and in return help Ukraine economically.
KSA has extensive experience shooting down drones and ballistic missiles - one of the most experienced armies in the world in this regard.
Mullah regime supporters are living in some alternative universe where they are somehow "winning" by being carpet bombed 24/7.
Zero damage to the US and Israel as well. Less than 20 US and Israeli soldiers killed. It is all a big joke. Targeting infrastructure in tiny Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait and Qatar (extremely limited overall) is some kind of victory now?
Iraqi Sunni Arab insurgents armed with light weaponry, on a good day, used to kill at times, 20 US soldiers, in a single day (sometimes more) during the height of the insurgency. Just to put it into perspective.
It is very hilarious to witness the usual suspects and their usual comedy in this regard. Personally I am having many good laughs reading some of the nonsense here and elsewhere. Long may it continue.
As for wars with Iranians - they are yet to win a single war against Arabs in their entire history - so let us not even go there.
KSA is completely peaceful and nothing of worth has been touched let alone destroyed. Life continues as normal in every sphere, whether daily life, sports, international events, Umrah, economy etc.
In fact KSA is the biggest beneficiary of this conflict so far.
95% of what is reported on this forum and on X is utter delusional nonsense.
A good example:
Iran has had 10.000's of casualties, their leadership annihilated, 100's of billions of USD in material loses, most of their Air Force and navy annihilated, their missiles severely depleted, 100's of bases targeted and other infrastructure.
KSA in return has lost 2 people (1 Indian and 1 Bangladeshi expat), no material damage whatsoever other than very limited damage in Ras Tanura and Yanbu and nothing of worth destroyed in the Prince Sultan Air Base.
No amount of firecrackers (drones and Russian/Chinese/North Korean origin missiles) is going to change anything of notice in a country like KSA which is 1.5 times the size of Iran.
During the past 3-4 weeks KSA has made more money selling oil than the previous 3 months:
Saudi Arabia’s Red Sea Oil Exports Jump To Nearly 4 Million bpd | OilPrice.com
Saudi Arabia's oil exports through the Red Sea port of Yanbu are projected to reach a record 3.8 million barrels per day, bypassing the blockaded Strait of Hormuz despite new risks from regional conflicts.
oilprice.com
While the Arabized Mullah enemy regime is getting carpet bombed and humiliated in front of the entire world, 1 sovereign wealth fund from KSA (PIF) has within just the span of 12 months earned the equivalent of 3/4 of the entire Iranian GDP.
PIF assets rise to $1.15T
02/01/2026 Argaam
Logo of Public Investment Fund (PIF)
The Public Investment Fund (PIF) ranked fifth among the world’s largest sovereign wealth funds (SWFs), after its net assets amounted to $1.15 trillion, recent data from the SWF Institute showed.
PIF's assets rose by $226 billion from $925 billion by the end of December 2024.
PIF assets rise to $1.15T
The Public Investment Fund (PIF) ranked fifth among the world’s largest sovereign wealth funds (SWFs), after its net assets amounted to $1.15 trillion
www.argaam.com
Ukrainians are probably the most talented and capable people in the world in this regard. Their experience and sharing of intelligence is invaluable. KSA has been a good friend towards Ukraine as well and KSA is trusted by Ukraine.
Numerous Chinese drones have been made within KSA for years - several local alterations exist as well.
Extremely interesting what our friend Faisal Abbas spoke about concerning the KSA-Ukraine deal of purchasing Ukraine drone technology. Apparently the Ukrainian army has great success stopping Russian drones with drones that cost just 1000 USD to produce. KSA will acquire this technology and in return help Ukraine economically.
KSA has extensive experience shooting down drones and ballistic missiles - one of the most experienced armies in the world in this regard.
Mullah regime supporters are living in some alternative universe where they are somehow "winning" by being carpet bombed 24/7.
Zero damage to the US and Israel as well. Less than 20 US and Israeli soldiers killed. It is all a big joke. Targeting infrastructure in tiny Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait and Qatar (extremely limited overall) is some kind of victory now?
Iraqi Sunni Arab insurgents armed with light weaponry, on a good day, used to kill at times, 20 US soldiers, in a single day (sometimes more) during the height of the insurgency. Just to put it into perspective.
It is very hilarious to witness the usual suspects and their usual comedy in this regard. Personally I am having many good laughs reading some of the nonsense here and elsewhere. Long may it continue.
As for wars with Iranians - they are yet to win a single war against Arabs in their entire history - so let us not even go there.
I am having great fun. Allow me to enjoy myself a bit. That is what forums like this one is for.The Irony on this thread is rather Hilarious
_Arabia_
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This is Riyadh (the most targeted region due to the proximity in KSA terms (140 km) of the Prince Sultan Air Base - during this imaginary non-existing war (in the case of KSA):
Goes for all of KSA - whether the tiniest mountain, desert or coastal village to all the largest cities across the country whether north, south, central, west or east.
This was Abha (close to the North Yemeni border and a city located 2270 meters above sea level) a few days ago:
Zero noise from the Houthi cult throughout.
Najran which sits right on the North Yemeni border yesterday:
Reading this forum, it would appear like KSA is somehow facing an imaginary existential crisis 24/7 due to a few drones of which 99% are dealt with successfully. Drones that can barely damage anything of note to begin with.
Lastly if the Iranian regime goal was to remove the US from those small GCC states - they have failed (like usual) once again because regimes there have just publicly announced that their cooperation with the US will just increase after this. What is worse - expect Israel to get a greater foothold and cooperation in places like UAE, Bahrain and even Qatar and potentially Oman. So in other words - the publicly stated goals of the Iranian regime, removal of US and Israeli influence in the region, is now only going to backfire. This is actually a negative for KSA long term but once again wherever the Iranian Mullah regime is present - misery and failure follows.
Most importantly this will further accelerate the integration of the GCC and ultimately give KSA the opportunity to once again swallow up the smaller GCC states all but in name. The Mullah regime have actually given us a helping hand in weakening the Abu Dhabi regime. I predict that this conflict will reduce their ability to conspire against KSA. Attacks on Bahrain have also cemented significant KSA military presence once again. Qatar has been hit hard (their main gas field) further accelerating their dependence on KSA. Kuwait was/is already a KSA colony all but in name as well.
There are also credible reports that KSA and Houthis have reached a comprehensive long-term agreement after the Abu Dhabi regime was removed from Yemen by KSA. This would explain their complete silence. This is good as North Yemenis are our brothers and sisters and we harbor no hatred to the average North Yemenis or vice versa.
Yemen has 50 million people. By 2050 they will have almost 130 million people. KSA and Yemen will merge all but in name as well - reunifying Arabia while being the two motors in this endeavor.
This is Riyadh (the most targeted region due to the proximity in KSA terms (140 km) of the Prince Sultan Air Base - during this imaginary non-existing war (in the case of KSA):
Goes for all of KSA - whether the tiniest mountain, desert or coastal village to all the largest cities across the country whether north, south, central, west or east.
This was Abha (close to the North Yemeni border and a city located 2270 meters above sea level) a few days ago:
Zero noise from the Houthi cult throughout.
Najran which sits right on the North Yemeni border yesterday:
Reading this forum, it would appear like KSA is somehow facing an imaginary existential crisis 24/7
due to a few drones of which 99% are dealt with successfully. Drones that can barely damage anything of note to begin with.Lastly if the Iranian regime goal was to remove the US from those small GCC states - they have failed (like usual) once again because regimes there have just publicly announced that their cooperation with the US will just increase after this. What is worse - expect Israel to get a greater foothold and cooperation in places like UAE, Bahrain and even Qatar and potentially Oman. So in other words - the publicly stated goals of the Iranian regime, removal of US and Israeli influence in the region, is now only going to backfire. This is actually a negative for KSA long term but once again wherever the Iranian Mullah regime is present - misery and failure follows.
Most importantly this will further accelerate the integration of the GCC and ultimately give KSA the opportunity to once again swallow up the smaller GCC states all but in name. The Mullah regime have actually given us a helping hand in weakening the Abu Dhabi regime. I predict that this conflict will reduce their ability to conspire against KSA. Attacks on Bahrain have also cemented significant KSA military presence once again. Qatar has been hit hard (their main gas field) further accelerating their dependence on KSA. Kuwait was/is already a KSA colony all but in name as well.
There are also credible reports that KSA and Houthis have reached a comprehensive long-term agreement after the Abu Dhabi regime was removed from Yemen by KSA. This would explain their complete silence. This is good as North Yemenis are our brothers and sisters and we harbor no hatred to the average North Yemenis or vice versa.
Yemen has 50 million people. By 2050 they will have almost 130 million people. KSA and Yemen will merge all but in name as well - reunifying Arabia while being the two motors in this endeavor.
_Arabia_
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We have one of the most underrated cuisine in the world. I rank our cuisine along with Yemeni cuisine as the most diverse in the region and the cuisines that use the most spices (we controlled the spice trade for millennia - long established trade ties made Indonesia/South East Asia majority Muslim due to Arabian traders and merchants - now the most populous Muslim nation on earth and majority Shafi'i like most of Hejaz and Yemen), various herbs and aromas as well as exotic fruits only grown in KSA and Yemen in the region. Let alone the entire coffee culture which is our invention and now the most famous drink in the world outside of water itself.
Add the influences from all corners of the world that has shaped Saudi Arabian cuisine (due to settlement from all corners of the Muslim world and Hajj and Umrah) and it gets even better.
4 day old video from the blessed city of Madinah:
Add the influences from all corners of the world that has shaped Saudi Arabian cuisine (due to settlement from all corners of the Muslim world and Hajj and Umrah) and it gets even better.
4 day old video from the blessed city of Madinah:
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_Arabia_
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People forget that UAE is composed of 7 distinct emirates - some very conservative. Only the Abu Dhabi regime (emirate) has any foreign policy of note. All the other emirates have excellent relations with KSA:
A recent good example of this:
Some propagandists are trying to drive an imaginary wedge between KSA and Egypt despite the fact that 95% of all Egyptians support KSA and vice versa. It has nothing to do with Iran or the Iranian regime (90% of all Egyptians are clueless about Iran - many think it is another Arab country even) but the fact that Israel is targeted a bit as well as opposition to the US foreign policy in the region - something very common across the entire region - KSA included.
The reality:
And those tiny minority of Arabs that are attacking KSA are only attacking the leadership (House of Saud) and not the nation/land (Arabia) which has a special place for every single Muslim and Arab let alone the people. Non-Arab clowns/trolls do not realize this simple reality.
If Jews/israelis started attacking Netanyahu and his party (in case of a civil war) we would have millions of Arabs supporting those same Jews. Not out of some imaginary love for those very same Jews.
A recent good example of this:
Some propagandists are trying to drive an imaginary wedge between KSA and Egypt despite the fact that 95% of all Egyptians support KSA and vice versa. It has nothing to do with Iran or the Iranian regime (90% of all Egyptians are clueless about Iran - many think it is another Arab country even) but the fact that Israel is targeted a bit as well as opposition to the US foreign policy in the region - something very common across the entire region - KSA included.
The reality:
And those tiny minority of Arabs that are attacking KSA are only attacking the leadership (House of Saud) and not the nation/land (Arabia) which has a special place for every single Muslim and Arab let alone the people. Non-Arab clowns/trolls do not realize this simple reality.
If Jews/israelis started attacking Netanyahu and his party (in case of a civil war) we would have millions of Arabs supporting those same Jews. Not out of some imaginary love for those very same Jews.
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_Arabia_
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The Iranian regime, fighting for its very survival, is very desperate. They keep sending their useless drones against KSA. It is almost as if they are begging for KSA to join the war against them. It will end very badly for them - it already is hell for them in many ways. The desperation of a dying regime who has lost half of its leadership already and "spiritual" leader as well as losing 10.000's of soldiers/people and suffering 1000's of destroyed targets across the entire country.
KSA leadership has already warned Iran in recent days publicly for the world to see.
If this continues, even though it does not harm KSA at all overall, KSA will join the war effort against the Iranian regime and the ball game will change completely.
All of KSA 100's of bases will be open and actively used. RSAF (one of the strongest air forces in the world) will actively join the fight.
We might even see KSA use our ballistic missiles which have a larger reach and larger warheads than anything Iran has. Unlike KSA, Iran has no Patriot, THAAD and one of the world's strongest air defenses like in the case of KSA to defend from those ballistic missiles.
A simple fact:
KSA has 100 times the liquidity, sovereign wealth fund, investments, economy, relations with the rest of the world combined than Iran. KSA can easily afford to rebuild whatever oil and gas infrastructure that has been/will be damaged.
However KSA can easily destroy the oil and gas infrastructure within Iran as well and severely damage it. In such a case the Iranian regime will collapse. Who is going to rebuild their infrastructure? Not only that, they will get the entire world against them - foremost China (main importer of Arab oil and gas), India, Europe, South Korea, Japan etc.
And no matter what happens KSA will continue to have access to the Red Sea (North and Southern route) as well as through KSA-controlled Yemen (80-85% of Yemen's landmass and 85% of the coastline - most strategic coastline too) as well as the Omani route and UAE - direct access to the Arabian Sea in all of those areas.
There is also this nonsense about power plants. KSA has almost 400 power plants spread across the entire country - which is 1.5 times the size of Iran itself. No amount of Iranian firecrackers (drones) and a few missiles will change much in this regard.
KSA has the world's most extensive desalination infrastructure - including the world's largest underground desalination water pipelines that are immune to most attacks. As well as some of the regions largest groundwater reserves. KSA is only using desalination due to wanting to preserve existing aquifers and to expand them in size. Also because we can afford it while also producing the world's cheapest desalination water. Even if temporary harmed somewhat - KSA has almost 1000 dams and other means of getting water from domestically. KSA should be well prepared in this regard.
However if such sensitive targets will be attacked by Iran - all bets are off. This would give KSA license to target Iranian rivers, lakes, oil, gas infrastructure, cultural/heritage sites and practically everything - including civilian areas directly. As well as their own desalination plants.
KSA leadership has already warned Iran in recent days publicly for the world to see.
If this continues, even though it does not harm KSA at all overall, KSA will join the war effort against the Iranian regime and the ball game will change completely.
All of KSA 100's of bases will be open and actively used. RSAF (one of the strongest air forces in the world) will actively join the fight.
We might even see KSA use our ballistic missiles which have a larger reach and larger warheads than anything Iran has. Unlike KSA, Iran has no Patriot, THAAD and one of the world's strongest air defenses like in the case of KSA to defend from those ballistic missiles.
A simple fact:
KSA has 100 times the liquidity, sovereign wealth fund, investments, economy, relations with the rest of the world combined than Iran. KSA can easily afford to rebuild whatever oil and gas infrastructure that has been/will be damaged.
However KSA can easily destroy the oil and gas infrastructure within Iran as well and severely damage it. In such a case the Iranian regime will collapse. Who is going to rebuild their infrastructure? Not only that, they will get the entire world against them - foremost China (main importer of Arab oil and gas), India, Europe, South Korea, Japan etc.
And no matter what happens KSA will continue to have access to the Red Sea (North and Southern route) as well as through KSA-controlled Yemen (80-85% of Yemen's landmass and 85% of the coastline - most strategic coastline too) as well as the Omani route and UAE - direct access to the Arabian Sea in all of those areas.
There is also this nonsense about power plants. KSA has almost 400 power plants spread across the entire country - which is 1.5 times the size of Iran itself. No amount of Iranian firecrackers (drones) and a few missiles will change much in this regard.
KSA has the world's most extensive desalination infrastructure - including the world's largest underground desalination water pipelines that are immune to most attacks. As well as some of the regions largest groundwater reserves. KSA is only using desalination due to wanting to preserve existing aquifers and to expand them in size. Also because we can afford it while also producing the world's cheapest desalination water. Even if temporary harmed somewhat - KSA has almost 1000 dams and other means of getting water from domestically. KSA should be well prepared in this regard.
However if such sensitive targets will be attacked by Iran - all bets are off. This would give KSA license to target Iranian rivers, lakes, oil, gas infrastructure, cultural/heritage sites and practically everything - including civilian areas directly. As well as their own desalination plants.
_Arabia_
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Fake news. There is no censorship either other than what is normal everywhere else. There have been numerous users here in this very forum based in Riyadh and elsewhere reporting events and confirming that KSA is completely calm and safe 99.99% of the time. 99% of the reported explosions are interceptions targeting mostly drones.
Only confirmed impact areas have been the US embassy (not KSA property) a few hits on the Prince Sultan Air Base (no KSA military material has been reported to have been hit) and overall small hits in Ras Tanura (less than 5% of the combined installations directly impacted) and 1 small oil storage hit in Riyadh (out of 100's) as well as in Yanbu - origin unknown. Rest is not confirmed or direct nonsense. No fighter jets or civilian planes have been hit nor any local civilians killed. Let alone soldiers.
It is the same 5-10 Arab X users (Hezbollah, PMUF and Houthi fanboys - hardly any other sources are posted on the cesspit section of this forum for a reason) posting mostly nonsense.
Even the very limited damage within Israel (you know the actual country that is carpet bombing Iran 24/7) is highly exaggerated for the most part.
90-95% of what is reported on X is utter nonsense, AI, old clips not even from the region and the usual nonsense/troll accounts that are looking for cloud for monetary reasons.
Even most of UAE, Qatar and Bahrain is completely calm which every live webcam can confirm.
Let alone KSA which is barely harmed and to begin with 1.5 times larger than Iran itself and much more immune to drone and missile attacks - something that KSA has dealt with for years with the Houthis - just as successful.
No amount of largely useless/harmless drones can change much other than being a nuisance in small places like Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain. The Mullah regime out of desperation and due to their failure of being able to really target Israel, have targeted the GCC 6 times more than Israel itself - yet life continues.
Even Iran which itself is being hit 10.000 times worse is not collapsing.
Ukraine has been targeted by Russia on a daily basis for almost 4 years on a far greater scale and is still standing as well.
EDIT: A good example of the comedy is the propaganda accounts claims of imaginary "US BASES" (plural) being hit in KSA. There are not a single US base in KSA. The only base that has been targeted, superficially, is the enormous Prince Sultan Air Base which is a Saudi Arabian base. A sovereign Saudi Arabian base that the government has allowed to be used by the US - an ally since 1945. There are more Saudi Arabian military personal there than the few US soldiers stationed there. US presence is far greater in Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE and Qatar. I would not even be surprised if the US presence in Turkiye (Incirlik Air Base) was greater than in KSA prior to this conflict starting. Now it is likely different and if KSA is pushed into this war directly - the US presence will increase tenfold if that can do it. Most likely.
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_Arabia_
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They are all going to be hanged. This conflict has given the GCC an excellent opportunity to arrest all spies/traitors and fifth columns and make short process of them.
Fifth column traitors are already realizing what will happen to all of them:
Other terrorists liquidated:
KSA armed forces are ready to permanently end those fifth columns, traitors and terrorists at any given moment.
Actually if the Bahraini regime (very unlikely) somehow loses power - KSA will just permanently annex Bahrain.
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Starlord
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@_Arabia_ So I am thread banned from that US Perspective thread because of a petty TTA and poor moderation of PDF which is plaguing the forum, I have to respond to you here.
@Starlord
You are a writing quite a bit of nonsense with all due respect.
Nothing in the GCC of worth has been destroyed nor is it going to be destroyed by a few useless drones and largely firecrackers (ballistic missiles). What has been disrupted in places like the UAE is tourism. As well as the disruption of the Strait of Hormuz but that, in the case of KSA, has been solved by the West-East pipeline (KSA is now exporting 7 million barrels of oil daily)
fortune.com
Oman and UAE has access to the Gulf of Oman and Arabian Sea directly so they are less impacted.
The main losers are Kuwait and Qatar but KSA is helping them a lot by transporting their oil and gas through KSA territory. GCC has served as a land bridge for all the smaller GCC states in every sphere. KSA could earn a fortune on this but is doing it for free.
Making a fortune. 2-3 times more money than previously.
You still do not understand that the destruction/removal/severe weakening of the Iranian regime and all its regional proxies plays right into the hands of KSA and the wider GCC? Those are our biggest adversaries and enemies as well.
Unlike other stupid regional leadership (speaking about stupid leadership), such as the Iranian regime and their terrorist proxies, we are not stupid enough to wage a war against a nuclear armed state (Israel) that is 24/7 protected and supported by the world's superpower (USA). The same Israel which has 20% Arab Muslim population, 2/3 of their Israeli Jews being Arab Jews and an entity that is unlikely to go anywhere anytime soon. Therefore the solution (short-term at least) is a diplomatic solution.
If our leadership were retarded they would have turned our country, wealth, people into a failed entity like Iran. Or the other failed entities in the region of the past that were destroyed completely due to stupid leadership. And what have they to show for? Nothing. Did they defeat Israel? No, Israel is stronger than ever before.
Let us look at the ground realities. Genocide in Gaza with most of Hamas destroyed and large portions of Gaza annexed/under Israeli control. Continued Israeli illegal settlements in the West Bank with no stop/end in sight. Hezbollah severely degraded and most of their previous leadership annihilated. Houthis weakened and no longer a regional factor. They waited 4 weeks before they launched 2-3 missiles at Israel. PMF in Iraq degraded as well with the Iraqi government at an internal war of power with that faction within Iraq. Iran carpet bombed and severely weakened. Much of their leadership annihilated.
Do you see which direction things are moving into?
And let us be perfectly clear so everyone gets this simple fact once and for all. KSA is not the GCC and KSA is a special country that hosts Makkah and Madinah. There are severely different dynamics at play here that I do not need to write much about in great detail because it is self-evident.
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You said nothing of Significant is damage, I mean really? Qatar/Dubai/Kuwait and Bahrain got hit hard, and like I told you in some other thread... Iran is not attacking KSA and other GCC civilian infrastructure mostly, their prime targets are US military bases which are used to attack them, any country with Honor will do that including Pakistan if Afghanistan has Indian bases and they are launching fighter jets, or Rocket attacks on Pakistan, I do get that honor and Dignity is something is in short limit in GCC but you don't have be that delusional.
You say that KSA/GCC consider the Iranian regime as "Enemy" and its good so you are literally saying that what everyone is talking that GCC is helping Israel against Iran, and you blame Iranians for not trusting you and creating proxies to counter your schemes against them? And if the Iranian regime was always your enemies so why even bother to normalize ties with Iran when MBS and other GCC high officials meeting Iranian leaders and break the ice? Does that mean that Arabs have been backstabbing Iranians all this time? it only gets worse when you are posting about the conflict.
Well you are not smart when you say that you won't fight a nuclear Armed state (Israel) protected by America, reality is that you just buy yourself out of situation, Kuwait gets invaded, your leaders were scared so they bring American troops to protect your cities and resources, its not bravery that was shown or smartness its just you give America/Israel what they want, and in return they protect you but only until Israel bombs you, as we see they did in Doha.
And can you please stop bringing that whole Arab % in every posts, you use Arab population when it suits you, yeah Israel has Arab population, and you are presenting them as "Your" people but you let Millions of Iraqi's die, thousands of Palestinians die and Genocide that whole world witness, while other European countries has done more to protest against massacre of "Your" people than your nations with all their might. Sometimes you are presenting Arabs/GCC has some powerhouse which can take on enemy but other times you admitting that GCC/ME is helpless against Israel, so why even argue with people when they say that Entire GCC is practically under Israel's control and your leaders are compromised cucks.
On a side note, as bad as Iranian regime is Iranian Muslims are still Muslims, and the Rasool you so happen to claim would've never sided with enemy against his own people, its not just about the Arabs hate is due to proxies which by the way Arabs have their own proxies in middle east and other regions, so stop pretending that you guys are all innocent as a Hoor from Heaven.
I mean you are calling Iran for being weak when the country has been under sanctions for over 3 decades? and still manage to create a decent defense/Attack capabilities, while your countries are relying on Americans to protect you, that's even more embarrassing for you not Iran. And of course Iran will face the burn because they are standing in isolation because GCC Arabs has back stab them, rather than fixing the issues with diplomacy your leaders scheme against the Iranians and you sacrifice 80-100k Palestinians just so you can get rid of the Iranian regime, wow and if that is what a common Arab thinks than I will say that Arabs of GCC are even bigger scum than Israeli's.
As for Israel been stronger, yes Genius and why is that? its because they have no competition in region, cause your entire region/GCC has been cucked, they convinced America to take out Iraq, Syria is done, Libya is gone, Egypt is practically non-existent or no threat to Entity, KSA well useless, Qatar/UAE/Kuwait/Bahrain none of them have manpower or Air power to challenge Israel, in fact those countries are at the mercy of America. So yeah they (Israel) will get stronger of course, Israel would've not been this bold if Arabs grow a pair and stand up to them, use the leverage they have to stop capture of West Bank or massacre of Gaza, yeah today Gaza is in Ruins, now for many they will blame Hamas, and according Falcon Hamas is not a Iranian proxy so why the Arabs have forsake them? You are presenting your weakness as some sort of genius move by your leaders which is often done by India who live in their own delusional world.
You are right, Gaza bombed into bits, Hezbullah weakened, and Iran will take 1-2 decades to full recover only if America lift sanctions. Now with the entire Axis gone who will stop Israel into fully annex the Palestinian territories? or have your leaders made a deal behind curtains to give up Palestinians, and if so why keep bringing the Arab identity ? you sold your own kin for shinny cities which Israel will eventually bomb anyway, and there won't be anyone to stop them, in fact if Arabs were any smart they would've kept the Iranian's alive and powerful enough that Israel/America can remain engage with them for foreseeable future, but if Israel come on top in this conflict what do you think they will do next? Expand their territory Genius, which they already started.. in Lebanon/Syria and now the so called collective Arab pride and people you will throw under the bus and say, well they didn't take KSA's territory now didn't they? one by one countries surrounding them are destroyed to a point that these countries are ghost of their former selves, you think Israel will allow a Sunni Axis to take shape? if Israel act against any axis or alliance which they deemed as threat to them, than how long before they declare you and other GCC countries as Threats and bombing start?
Yes I can see where things are headed, in fact many can but thick Skull Arabs can't.. Like i said, the difference between Arabs/Jews is that Jews are rich & smart, while Arabs are only Rich.
KSA is not unique dude, you need to understand that... if you are so scared of America/Israel and if tomorrow they decided to bomb you or even Mecca (Audubillah) than who will stop them? your leaders who are busy kissing Trumps a$$ (his words). or who will fight them? from the military bases and AC fleets that docked in your ports which will be used against you when time comes? I really really hope that Arab leaders are not as delulu as you are here and try so hard to hold on to something to show that your leadership are not totally dumb. As for this war, we will see what and how the region changes once the dust settle but one thing for sure this war has expose that Arab leaders and their population has just surrendered the entire region to Israel/America without even a fight.
@Starlord
You are a writing quite a bit of nonsense with all due respect.
Nothing in the GCC of worth has been destroyed nor is it going to be destroyed by a few useless drones and largely firecrackers (ballistic missiles). What has been disrupted in places like the UAE is tourism. As well as the disruption of the Strait of Hormuz but that, in the case of KSA, has been solved by the West-East pipeline (KSA is now exporting 7 million barrels of oil daily)
Saudi pipeline to bypass Hormuz hits 7 million barrel goal | Fortune
Flotillas of tankers have been redirected to the Red Sea port of Yanbu to collect the oil, providing an important lifeline for global supply.Oman and UAE has access to the Gulf of Oman and Arabian Sea directly so they are less impacted.
The main losers are Kuwait and Qatar but KSA is helping them a lot by transporting their oil and gas through KSA territory. GCC has served as a land bridge for all the smaller GCC states in every sphere. KSA could earn a fortune on this but is doing it for free.
Making a fortune. 2-3 times more money than previously.
You still do not understand that the destruction/removal/severe weakening of the Iranian regime and all its regional proxies plays right into the hands of KSA and the wider GCC? Those are our biggest adversaries and enemies as well.
Unlike other stupid regional leadership (speaking about stupid leadership), such as the Iranian regime and their terrorist proxies, we are not stupid enough to wage a war against a nuclear armed state (Israel) that is 24/7 protected and supported by the world's superpower (USA). The same Israel which has 20% Arab Muslim population, 2/3 of their Israeli Jews being Arab Jews and an entity that is unlikely to go anywhere anytime soon. Therefore the solution (short-term at least) is a diplomatic solution.
If our leadership were retarded they would have turned our country, wealth, people into a failed entity like Iran. Or the other failed entities in the region of the past that were destroyed completely due to stupid leadership. And what have they to show for? Nothing. Did they defeat Israel? No, Israel is stronger than ever before.
Let us look at the ground realities. Genocide in Gaza with most of Hamas destroyed and large portions of Gaza annexed/under Israeli control. Continued Israeli illegal settlements in the West Bank with no stop/end in sight. Hezbollah severely degraded and most of their previous leadership annihilated. Houthis weakened and no longer a regional factor. They waited 4 weeks before they launched 2-3 missiles at Israel. PMF in Iraq degraded as well with the Iraqi government at an internal war of power with that faction within Iraq. Iran carpet bombed and severely weakened. Much of their leadership annihilated.
Do you see which direction things are moving into?
And let us be perfectly clear so everyone gets this simple fact once and for all. KSA is not the GCC and KSA is a special country that hosts Makkah and Madinah. There are severely different dynamics at play here that I do not need to write much about in great detail because it is self-evident.
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You said nothing of Significant is damage, I mean really? Qatar/Dubai/Kuwait and Bahrain got hit hard, and like I told you in some other thread... Iran is not attacking KSA and other GCC civilian infrastructure mostly, their prime targets are US military bases which are used to attack them, any country with Honor will do that including Pakistan if Afghanistan has Indian bases and they are launching fighter jets, or Rocket attacks on Pakistan, I do get that honor and Dignity is something is in short limit in GCC but you don't have be that delusional.
You say that KSA/GCC consider the Iranian regime as "Enemy" and its good so you are literally saying that what everyone is talking that GCC is helping Israel against Iran, and you blame Iranians for not trusting you and creating proxies to counter your schemes against them? And if the Iranian regime was always your enemies so why even bother to normalize ties with Iran when MBS and other GCC high officials meeting Iranian leaders and break the ice? Does that mean that Arabs have been backstabbing Iranians all this time? it only gets worse when you are posting about the conflict.
Well you are not smart when you say that you won't fight a nuclear Armed state (Israel) protected by America, reality is that you just buy yourself out of situation, Kuwait gets invaded, your leaders were scared so they bring American troops to protect your cities and resources, its not bravery that was shown or smartness its just you give America/Israel what they want, and in return they protect you but only until Israel bombs you, as we see they did in Doha.
And can you please stop bringing that whole Arab % in every posts, you use Arab population when it suits you, yeah Israel has Arab population, and you are presenting them as "Your" people but you let Millions of Iraqi's die, thousands of Palestinians die and Genocide that whole world witness, while other European countries has done more to protest against massacre of "Your" people than your nations with all their might. Sometimes you are presenting Arabs/GCC has some powerhouse which can take on enemy but other times you admitting that GCC/ME is helpless against Israel, so why even argue with people when they say that Entire GCC is practically under Israel's control and your leaders are compromised cucks.
On a side note, as bad as Iranian regime is Iranian Muslims are still Muslims, and the Rasool you so happen to claim would've never sided with enemy against his own people, its not just about the Arabs hate is due to proxies which by the way Arabs have their own proxies in middle east and other regions, so stop pretending that you guys are all innocent as a Hoor from Heaven.
I mean you are calling Iran for being weak when the country has been under sanctions for over 3 decades? and still manage to create a decent defense/Attack capabilities, while your countries are relying on Americans to protect you, that's even more embarrassing for you not Iran. And of course Iran will face the burn because they are standing in isolation because GCC Arabs has back stab them, rather than fixing the issues with diplomacy your leaders scheme against the Iranians and you sacrifice 80-100k Palestinians just so you can get rid of the Iranian regime, wow and if that is what a common Arab thinks than I will say that Arabs of GCC are even bigger scum than Israeli's.
As for Israel been stronger, yes Genius and why is that? its because they have no competition in region, cause your entire region/GCC has been cucked, they convinced America to take out Iraq, Syria is done, Libya is gone, Egypt is practically non-existent or no threat to Entity, KSA well useless, Qatar/UAE/Kuwait/Bahrain none of them have manpower or Air power to challenge Israel, in fact those countries are at the mercy of America. So yeah they (Israel) will get stronger of course, Israel would've not been this bold if Arabs grow a pair and stand up to them, use the leverage they have to stop capture of West Bank or massacre of Gaza, yeah today Gaza is in Ruins, now for many they will blame Hamas, and according Falcon Hamas is not a Iranian proxy so why the Arabs have forsake them? You are presenting your weakness as some sort of genius move by your leaders which is often done by India who live in their own delusional world.
You are right, Gaza bombed into bits, Hezbullah weakened, and Iran will take 1-2 decades to full recover only if America lift sanctions. Now with the entire Axis gone who will stop Israel into fully annex the Palestinian territories? or have your leaders made a deal behind curtains to give up Palestinians, and if so why keep bringing the Arab identity ? you sold your own kin for shinny cities which Israel will eventually bomb anyway, and there won't be anyone to stop them, in fact if Arabs were any smart they would've kept the Iranian's alive and powerful enough that Israel/America can remain engage with them for foreseeable future, but if Israel come on top in this conflict what do you think they will do next? Expand their territory Genius, which they already started.. in Lebanon/Syria and now the so called collective Arab pride and people you will throw under the bus and say, well they didn't take KSA's territory now didn't they? one by one countries surrounding them are destroyed to a point that these countries are ghost of their former selves, you think Israel will allow a Sunni Axis to take shape? if Israel act against any axis or alliance which they deemed as threat to them, than how long before they declare you and other GCC countries as Threats and bombing start?
Yes I can see where things are headed, in fact many can but thick Skull Arabs can't.. Like i said, the difference between Arabs/Jews is that Jews are rich & smart, while Arabs are only Rich.
KSA is not unique dude, you need to understand that... if you are so scared of America/Israel and if tomorrow they decided to bomb you or even Mecca (Audubillah) than who will stop them? your leaders who are busy kissing Trumps a$$ (his words). or who will fight them? from the military bases and AC fleets that docked in your ports which will be used against you when time comes? I really really hope that Arab leaders are not as delulu as you are here and try so hard to hold on to something to show that your leadership are not totally dumb. As for this war, we will see what and how the region changes once the dust settle but one thing for sure this war has expose that Arab leaders and their population has just surrendered the entire region to Israel/America without even a fight.
_Arabia_
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@Starlord
Well, no idea why you were banned. I am not in favor of censorship personally. Even we have two have been at odds before. I have no problem with any users here - we are just a bunch of anonymous guys discussing. I don't care about personal insults etc. either.
Well, before I start to reply to your post, what has been destroyed in KSA and the GCC of note? The answer is nothing. Even the US bases are still standing. The only thing that has been destroyed there are a few US equipment that the US has 100's of and which can easily be replaced within a short notice.
Now compare that with the utter destruction, militarily, industrial, economic across much of Iran. There is no comparison. Iran has suffered from 100's of billions of USD in economic loses as well as 10.000's of human lives.
Sorry to break this to you but Israel has never touched KSA or the GCC in their history. Only thing I recall was the attack on Hamas leadership in Doha.
Israel does not have the size or manpower to annex or conquer anything. They have a problem with conquering tiny Gaza and West Bank after 100 years and 24/7 US support. Israeli Jews (2/3 of all of them are ARAB JEWS) are already outnumbered in Palestine. The greatest achievement that they can do is fully annex Gaza and West Bank. In return the two-state solution will be dead (it already is). However in a one-state solution Arabs will be the majority in Israel. Sure, Israel is an Apartheid state right now but will the world/region tolerate that in say 20-30 years time? I personally do not see that. Like Apartheid ended in South Africa - the current Israeli regime can end too.
My prediction is that we will see one state (Israel, Palestine or whatever it will be called) with equal rights for everyone and with an Arab majority. The international community would ensure that Jews will have their rights as well. The region/world will not tolerate this conflict to dominate/impact as much as it does now, forever either. The world has much more important matters to tackle - let alone 100's of other conflicts that are bigger/more bloody in scope. That is without mentioning future technology, AI, climate changes, world economy and everything else.
This conflict, if I am to be honest with you, has nothing to do with KSA or other Arabs. This is the work of historical events caused by the British Empire and later the US. Aside from the main culprits (European Zionist Jews). Arabs were dragged into this conflict. Unwillingly. For many decades this was the main focus point of the collective Arab leadership. This is no longer the case and is unlikely to be the case. Which is why you see no nation states declaring war on Israel/US. It is a futile endeavor right now. No need for any delusion and claim otherwise.
The Iranian regime never did anything for Palestine ether - they just used it as a propaganda to gain stupid low IQ followers in the region who would do their bidding and advance Iranian regime imperialism. They never attacked Israel directly even once since 1979 UNTIL lsrael attacked Iran directly themselves. You have Hamas officials openly stating this as well. So I am not making it up either. Those were/are the ground realities that everyone can see.
The only solution (realistic) is a diplomatic/political solution because the Palestinians (as demonstrated once again) are not going anywhere nor will the Israelis.
Well, no idea why you were banned. I am not in favor of censorship personally. Even we have two have been at odds before. I have no problem with any users here - we are just a bunch of anonymous guys discussing. I don't care about personal insults etc. either.
Well, before I start to reply to your post, what has been destroyed in KSA and the GCC of note? The answer is nothing. Even the US bases are still standing. The only thing that has been destroyed there are a few US equipment that the US has 100's of and which can easily be replaced within a short notice.
Now compare that with the utter destruction, militarily, industrial, economic across much of Iran. There is no comparison. Iran has suffered from 100's of billions of USD in economic loses as well as 10.000's of human lives.
Sorry to break this to you but Israel has never touched KSA or the GCC in their history. Only thing I recall was the attack on Hamas leadership in Doha.
Israel does not have the size or manpower to annex or conquer anything. They have a problem with conquering tiny Gaza and West Bank after 100 years and 24/7 US support. Israeli Jews (2/3 of all of them are ARAB JEWS) are already outnumbered in Palestine. The greatest achievement that they can do is fully annex Gaza and West Bank. In return the two-state solution will be dead (it already is). However in a one-state solution Arabs will be the majority in Israel. Sure, Israel is an Apartheid state right now but will the world/region tolerate that in say 20-30 years time? I personally do not see that. Like Apartheid ended in South Africa - the current Israeli regime can end too.
My prediction is that we will see one state (Israel, Palestine or whatever it will be called) with equal rights for everyone and with an Arab majority. The international community would ensure that Jews will have their rights as well. The region/world will not tolerate this conflict to dominate/impact as much as it does now, forever either. The world has much more important matters to tackle - let alone 100's of other conflicts that are bigger/more bloody in scope. That is without mentioning future technology, AI, climate changes, world economy and everything else.
This conflict, if I am to be honest with you, has nothing to do with KSA or other Arabs. This is the work of historical events caused by the British Empire and later the US. Aside from the main culprits (European Zionist Jews). Arabs were dragged into this conflict. Unwillingly. For many decades this was the main focus point of the collective Arab leadership. This is no longer the case and is unlikely to be the case. Which is why you see no nation states declaring war on Israel/US. It is a futile endeavor right now. No need for any delusion and claim otherwise.
The Iranian regime never did anything for Palestine ether - they just used it as a propaganda to gain stupid low IQ followers in the region who would do their bidding and advance Iranian regime imperialism. They never attacked Israel directly even once since 1979 UNTIL lsrael attacked Iran directly themselves. You have Hamas officials openly stating this as well. So I am not making it up either. Those were/are the ground realities that everyone can see.
The only solution (realistic) is a diplomatic/political solution because the Palestinians (as demonstrated once again) are not going anywhere nor will the Israelis.
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Falcon29
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@ChineseTiger1986
I would say Arab youth are in general very curious about China and Chinese lifestyle/culture, but we are just not educated on it. Arab Monarchs like the GCC ones are heavily aligned with the US for security guarantees which partially holds rest of Arabs back from engaging with China on a deeper level, even cultural one.
We're led by strong men or monarchs (made up of specific royal families), minus those of us in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. Rest of Arabs do not have democracy and are ruled infinitely by military junta or monarch.
And the other big factor is Arabs were subjected to European colonialism for oil resources and are subjected to this kind of abusive relationship. But also that Europeans are considered 'People of the Book' in Islam, in sense their religious beliefs are Abrahamic faiths and closely aligned with Islam.
I would like to see more cultural exposure to both cultures by Chinese and Arabs people. Chinese Arabic speaking analysts and so forth can help with this exposure. Potentially also providing economic opportunities or tourism for Arab expats or visitors.
Here in the US lots of people like to claim Chinese look down on us American citizens and they seem to encourage to not really travel there if you're not there for business purposes. They isolate Chinese culture from Americans and also they banned us from being able to purchase Chinese smartphones, which is a bummer because I had my eye on a Huawei smartphone.
In Palestine since we have a democracy, we are quite familiar with Chinese products and very open to advancing relations with China. When I was staying in Gaza a ton of the products there were Chinese. Electronics, utility devices, even for first time in my life I was able to see so many Chinese vehicles and ride in them. They were these brands : Geely, JAC, and Chery
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Coming into Gaza Strip from Egypt
I would say Arab youth are in general very curious about China and Chinese lifestyle/culture, but we are just not educated on it. Arab Monarchs like the GCC ones are heavily aligned with the US for security guarantees which partially holds rest of Arabs back from engaging with China on a deeper level, even cultural one.
We're led by strong men or monarchs (made up of specific royal families), minus those of us in Syria, Lebanon and Palestine. Rest of Arabs do not have democracy and are ruled infinitely by military junta or monarch.
And the other big factor is Arabs were subjected to European colonialism for oil resources and are subjected to this kind of abusive relationship. But also that Europeans are considered 'People of the Book' in Islam, in sense their religious beliefs are Abrahamic faiths and closely aligned with Islam.
I would like to see more cultural exposure to both cultures by Chinese and Arabs people. Chinese Arabic speaking analysts and so forth can help with this exposure. Potentially also providing economic opportunities or tourism for Arab expats or visitors.
Here in the US lots of people like to claim Chinese look down on us American citizens and they seem to encourage to not really travel there if you're not there for business purposes. They isolate Chinese culture from Americans and also they banned us from being able to purchase Chinese smartphones, which is a bummer because I had my eye on a Huawei smartphone.
In Palestine since we have a democracy, we are quite familiar with Chinese products and very open to advancing relations with China. When I was staying in Gaza a ton of the products there were Chinese. Electronics, utility devices, even for first time in my life I was able to see so many Chinese vehicles and ride in them. They were these brands : Geely, JAC, and Chery
^^
Coming into Gaza Strip from Egypt
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