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Sadegh Ziba, the Iranian reformist thinker at the University of Tehran, says:"It seems that we Iranians have not yet forgotten our historic defeat at the hands of the Arabs, and we have not forgotten Qadisiyyah even after 1,400 years have passed since it, so we harbor deep-seated grudges and buried hatred toward the Arabs, as if it were a fire beneath the ashes that could turn into flames whenever the opportunity arises. The intellectuals despise the Arabs, and you find many of the religious among us repelled by them—except that this phenomenon.... and this phenomenon spreads among the religious in the form of cursing the people of the Sunnah. The hatred and grudges toward the Sunnis and their symbols among many Iranians is, in reality, the other side of the coin of hatred toward the Arabs."

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Sadegh Ziba, the Iranian reformist thinker at the University of Tehran, says:"It seems that we Iranians have not yet forgotten our historic defeat at the hands of the Arabs, and we have not forgotten Qadisiyyah even after 1,400 years have passed since it, so we harbor deep-seated grudges and buried hatred toward the Arabs, as if it were a fire beneath the ashes that could turn into flames whenever the opportunity arises. The intellectuals despise the Arabs, and you find many of the religious among us repelled by them—except that this phenomenon.... and this phenomenon spreads among the religious in the form of cursing the people of the Sunnah. The hatred and grudges toward the Sunnis and their symbols among many Iranians is, in reality, the other side of the coin of hatred toward the Arabs."

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At the same time they are greatly Arabized linguistically, religiously, culturally and even ethnically. With numerous Arab dynasties ruling them.

Most of their high-ranking Shia clergy is of Arab origin. Same Shia Arabs that were instrumental in the conversion of Iran from Sunni (Shafi'ii) to Shia (Twelver) beliefs.


Same Iranian Mullah regime and clergy who literally worship people of Arab origin (Black Turbans) and who are deemed to have a "superior" standing by virtue of their Arab origin.

Same Iran that has millions of Iranian Arabs amidst their people and with many million more of partial Arab ancestry.

Same Iranians whose very names and surnames (vast majority of them) are of Arab origin.

Same Iranians whose main lingua franca (Persian) is incredibly heavily influenced by Arabic and even uses an Arabic alphabet with only 4 additional characters.

At the same time their most visited/respected sites in their country are burial sites/shrines/mosques of dead Hejazi Arabs from modern-day KSA. Same Hejazi Arab dynasties that ruled them for 500 years.

Those ground realities might explain their schizophrenic behavior in regard to Arabs.

Among Iranians you can find deep hatred towards Arabs but at the same time people who act more Arab than Arabs.

Anyway what he is saying does not apply to the Iranian Arabs, Iranian Turkmens, Iranian Kurds, Iranian Baloch etc. Nor to Sunni Iranians. Or to many Persians from actual Fars (Southern Iran) that have had historically close people to people ties with Arabia.

Any way.

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At the same time they are greatly Arabized linguistically, religiously, culturally and even ethnically. With numerous Arab dynasties ruling them.

Most of their high-ranking Shia clergy is of Arab origin. Same Shia Arabs that were instrumental in the conversion of Iran from Sunni (Shafi'ii) to Shia (Twelver) beliefs.


Same Iranian Mullah regime and clergy who literally worship people of Arab origin (Black Turbans) and who are deemed to have a "superior" standing by virtue of their Arab origin.

Same Iran that has millions of Iranian Arabs amidst their people and with many million more of partial Arab ancestry.

Same Iranians whose very names and surnames (vast majority of them) are of Arab origin.

Same Iranians whose main lingua franca (Persian) is incredibly heavily influenced by Arabic and even uses an Arabic alphabet with only 4 additional characters.

At the same time their most visited/respected sites in their country are burial sites/shrines/mosques of dead Hejazi Arabs from modern-day KSA. Same Hejazi Arab dynasties that ruled them for 500 years.

Those ground realities might explain their schizophrenic behavior in regard to Arabs.

Among Iranians you can find deep hatred towards Arabs but at the same time people who act more Arab than Arabs.

Anyway what he is saying does not apply to the Iranian Arabs, Iranian Turkmens, Iranian Kurds, Iranian Baloch etc. Nor to Sunni Iranians. Or to many Persians from actual Fars (Southern Iran) that have had historically close people to people ties with Arabia.

Any way.

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Bro , enough of this Arab this Arab that rant all the time...ok , we concede Arabs are special...they have four legs and two heads ... happy now 😊
 
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Many interesting small little facts posted by various X users. One always needs to learn something new each day.
 
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Many interesting small little facts posted by various X users. One always needs to learn something new each day.

For a long time I believed Laila majnun is a Pakistani love story... you can't blame me for that cause it's so much Internalised in Pakistan.
 
For a long time I believed Laila majnun is a Pakistani love story... you can't blame me for that cause it's so much Internalised in Pakistan.
From what I am aware of It is also the most widespread and famous love story in a certain other country that borders KSA (maritime borders).

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:ROFLMAO:

A reminder that there are several "Iran's" out there:

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"Another" Iran:

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Long interesting thread:

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Islamic art = Arab art by large. The distinction is minimal hence why they are often used mutually.

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Source: Empires and Communities in the Post-Roman and Islamic World, C. 400-1000 CE. p. 26.
 
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A bit of light-hearted trolling from this brother (he is a Moroccan himself) despite it being accurate, lol.

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Another one, lol.

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It is actually insane that we have literally our very own people living in Anatolia (from as far back as 2500 + years) who to this day speak an Arabic dialect that is easily understood by the dialects in KSA such as Najdi and Hejazi.

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Long but spectacularly well-sourced threads:

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The Safavids were culturally Turkic


  • spoke Azeri Turkish
  • used Turkic tribal military structures
  • relied on Qizilbash Turkic tribes
  • ruled through Turkic elites
  • spread a Turkic-influenced version of Shi’ism
Their political and cultural identity was overwhelmingly Turkic.

Even if some distant ancestor had Arab lineage, it does not define the dynasty.

Is this a joke?
 

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