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_Arabia_ · 2026-08-10T14:36:41+0100

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Unfortunately/tragicomically it turns out that the actual Safavids were most likely of Arab origin - confirmed by modern-day DNA tests.

But another thing (out of 100's) that we can troll anti-Arab Iranians with. See post 586.

@The SC

Our biggest fights are always with either fellow Arabs, an Arabized/ethnically majority Arab nation in Israel (Israeli Arabs - 20-25% of the population + 2/3 of all Israeli Jews being Arab Jews originally) and the Mullah regime of Iran since 1979 being run by Shia Arab clergy leadership who proudly claim and display their Arab origins and who try to act more Arab than Arab themselves and who are obsessed about Arab affairs 24/7. Now it makes sense why their leadership do not give a flying **** about some tiny landlocked Tajikistan or Afghanistan next door.

Now we can add the freaking Safavids to this list.

As I always wrote - Arabs are our own worst enemies.

_Arabia_ · 2026-08-10T14:41:35+0100

Anatolia said:
The Safavids were culturally Turkic

spoke Azeri Turkish

used Turkic tribal military structures

relied on Qizilbash Turkic tribes

ruled through Turkic elites

spread a Turkic-influenced version of Shi’ism

Their political and cultural identity was overwhelmingly Turkic.

Even if some distant ancestor had Arab lineage, it does not define the dynasty.

Is this a joke?

Safavids, as proven by modern-day DNA tests, run by Azerbaijanis themselves (not Arabs) confirm their Arab ancestry (paternal - which is what defines ancestry). By that token there is not a single dynasty of any origin as most mixed with others throughout the ages. Your ties to an ethnic group are defined by your paternal origin from father to father as so far as you can trace it back. Hence the concept of Y-DNA.

What is Azeri Turkish identity if not an Arabized Muslim identity?

And what is this imaginary "Turkic-infleunced" version of Shia Islam? The Shia Siam (Twelver) that was imported to Iran under the Safavids by purely Arab Shia clerics from modern-day South Iraq, Eastern KSA and South Lebanon, was entirely Arab in origin. As every other Islamic sect.

Same reason why the most visited mosques, shrines etc. in Iran are of dead Hejazi Arabs buried in Iran - mostly in cities founded by Arabs with Arab names such as Qom, Mashhad etc.

I will give you that the Safavids used Turkic Qizilbash tribes from Central Asia to cement their rule.

I also think that they spoke Farsi (a bastardized form of Arabic with an Arab alphabet with just 4 new additions) and Arabic was also used (main language) among the Shia clergy and as today remains the lingua franca language of Islam.

Safavid conversion of Iran to Shia Islam - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Anyway a cursed entity now in the dustbin of history and tragicomically (not that I am surprised as they claimed it themselves) an dynasty of Arab origin.

You are welcome to claim them entirely. Outside of a tiny minority of retarded Arab Shias, no Arab wants anything to do with them even if they were of Arab origin.

Anatolia · 2026-08-10T14:47:19+0100

_Arabia_ said:
Safavids, as proven by modern-day DNA tests, run by Azerbaijanis themselves (not Arabs) confirm their Arab ancestry (paternal - which is what defines ancestry). By that token there is not a single dynasty of any origin as most mixed with others throughout the ages. Your ties to an ethnic group are defined by your paternal origin from father to father as so far as you can trace it back. Hence the concept of Y-DNA.

What is Azeri Turkish identity if not an Arabized Muslim identity?

And what is this imaginary "Turkic-infleunced" version of Shia Islam? The Shia Siam (Twelver) that was imported to Iran under the Safavids by purely Arab Shia clerics from modern-day South Iraq, Eastern KSA and South Lebanon, was entirely Arab in origin. As every other Islamic sect.

Same reason why the most visited mosques, shrines etc. in Iran are of dead Hejazi Arabs buried in Iran - mostly in cities founded by Arabs with Arab names such as Qom, Mashhad etc.

I will give you that the Safavids used Turkic Qizilbash tribes from Central Asia to cement their rule.

I also think that they spoke Farsi (a bastardized form of Arabic with an Arab alphabet with just 4 new additions) and Arabic was also used (main language) among the Shia clergy and as today remains the lingua franca language of Islam.

Safavid conversion of Iran to Shia Islam - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Anyway a cursed entity now in the dustbin of history and tragicomically (not that I am surprised as they claimed it themselves) an dynasty of Arab origin.

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This whole narrative is getting out of hand. Turks have their own identity, their own history, their own language, and their own state traditions ..and guess what none of which come from Arabs. The only thing Turks and Arabs share is a religion, and even that developed very differently in each region. Trying to force some “Arab origin” story onto every dynasty is just modern nationalist myth‑making, not serious history.

Safavid rulers themselves wrote poetry in Turkic, led Turkic tribes, used Turkic titles, and built a state powered by Turkic military elites. That’s their lived identity. A single paternal lineage claim doesn’t erase centuries of culture, language, and political reality. And it definitely doesn’t justify rewriting history to fit someone’s modern agenda.

People should be proud of their own heritage instead of trying to pull others into it. Turks don’t need borrowed ancestry ... they already have a rich, complex, and powerful history. No need to invent connections that were never there.

_Arabia_ · 2026-08-10T14:50:40+0100

More Arabs in Iran:

_Arabia_ · 2026-08-10T14:57:05+0100

_Arabia_ · 2026-08-10T14:59:20+0100

More lies debunked and distributed by the usual Arabized lot with inferiority complexes:

Ground reality:

_Arabia_ · 2026-08-10T15:05:37+0100

Long but spectacularly well-sourced threads:

_Arabia_ · 2026-08-10T15:09:11+0100

Palmyra: Ruins that inspired the architecture of power

A new exhibit aims to connect US audiences with antiquities under fire in Syria's civil war.

www.bbc.com

_Arabia_ · 2026-08-10T15:19:58+0100

_Arabia_ · 2026-08-10T15:25:45+0100

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Christianity is an Arab/Jewish/Semitic religion - nothing to do with the West/Europe that now claims it. Hence why most of its earliest Popes, scholars, Biblical figures etc. were Arab or Jewish. Same with the oldest Christian communities and churches etc.

For instance the House of Saud (who have been ruling areas of Najd since 300 + years ago and who unified KSA) are a part of the ancient Banu Hanifa tribe who was mostly Christian before Islam.

Banu Hanifa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A reminder that most of the most famous Jewish rulers were actually Arabs - Herod the Great a good example of this.

Or the fact that 2/3 of all his fellow Israeli Jews are Arab Jews and 20-25% of all Israelis Arab Israelis (Palestinian Arabs - Negev Bedouins included).

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