At least 14 newborn babies killed after fire breaks out in Pakistan hospital

[Mobius]

 

[Mobius]

 

[Mobius]

 

[Feroze]

Horrible to bring politics into the lives of innocent babies being killed in a hospital fire.

 

[Mobius]

 

[Watandar]

My God !! The status of girls and women in Pakistan is abysmal!! Likely the child in this story was a result of the rape of a teen.

Newborn left unclaimed at Pims for two months dies in blaze

Police failed to follow up on the case in the two months since the child’s birth, doctor says.

www.dawn.com

 

[K2RULEZ]

We are dealing with a morally bankrupt nation.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

Very sad! May God give strength to the bereaved families. Unfortunately, we are very familiar with the situation this side of the border too.

Regards

 

[Jango]

What a pathetic display from some people here. A tragedy has struck, yet they still cannot resist dragging politics into it and exposing their gutter mentality. At least have the basic decency to respect the victims and their families.

Because it all is politics, why can't you people understand it? Politics has a direct effect on the lives of people.

My own cousin had to get a sifarish from a 2 star to get a house job in PIMS way back before COVID. The directors are known to be sifarshis.

What incentive does a sifarshi have to improve the facilities under his purview? Why do you get a sifarshi? Because the person who put him there is himself compromised and beholden, so he has to do this. The chain goes up and up and up until nobody in the system is actually doing their job, and only filling a seat and drawing a salary.

Islamabad is a prime example of this. I have lived there practically my whole life. The city is indistinguishable from what it was even 10 years ago.

The people entrust their representatives with their lives and well being, in return the representative has an obligation and an incentive to uplift the people and ensure everything is working, this translates to bureaucracy too. This is the basic of a functioning governance system. When the incentive of everyone is not to serve the people but either serve the person who got them in this position, or fill their pockets, then you get tragedies like these.

You think this is the first time a fire erupted in the country? Or even a hospital?

Hamesha bas aisay hi aik do muzammat kay lafz hi boltay rehna hai, and when somebody speaks up drown them out by the usual "politics/cult/XYZ", or do we actually wanna face the music and acknowledge the problem for what it is?

What I wrote above goes above party lines, so please don't turn this into that. Wake up and realize why the current system is functioning as it does, don't just see the symptom.

 

[K2RULEZ]

Because it all is politics, why can't you people understand it? Politics has a direct effect on the lives of people.

My own cousin had to get a sifarish from a 2 star to get a house job in PIMS way back before COVID. The directors are known to be sifarshis.

What incentive does a sifarshi have to improve the facilities under his purview? Why do you get a sifarshi? Because the person who put him there is himself compromised and beholden, so he has to do this. The chain goes up and up and up until nobody in the system is actually doing their job, and only filling a seat and drawing a salary.

Islamabad is a prime example of this. I have lived there practically my whole life. The city is indistinguishable from what it was even 10 years ago.

The people entrust their representatives with their lives and well being, in return the representative has an obligation and an incentive to uplift the people and ensure everything is working, this translates to bureaucracy too. This is the basic of a functioning governance system. When the incentive of everyone is not to serve the people but either serve the person who got them in this position, or fill their pockets, then you get tragedies like these.

You think this is the first time a fire erupted in the country? Or even a hospital?

Hamesha bas aisay hi aik do muzammat kay lafz hi boltay rehna hai, and when somebody speaks up drown them out by the usual "politics/cult/XYZ", or do we actually wanna face the music and acknowledge the problem for what it is?

What I wrote above goes above party lines, so please don't turn this into that. Wake up and realize why the current system is functioning as it does, don't just see the symptom.

The entire country is run in similar fashion. This is no secret. It is a corrupt society.

The bitter part is that people running this country want to run it in this specific fashion.

 

[Jango]

This is frankly bullshit.

What was this guy doing all the time before? PIMS is literally the first hospital that comes to your mind if you are in Islamabad, or heck even KP or AJK.

Secondly, why does a secretary health need to be administrating a hospital? He needs to be looking at bureaucratic functions at the ministry, not micro-managing a hospital. That's the job of the MD or executive at the hospital who get paid to do this. You mean to tell me that if this secretary sahab hadn't woken up from his slumber and didn't think to make PIMS a world class hospital, then the hospital wouldn't have gone in that direction?

But then we have ministers micro managing departments, what to expect.

When will people wake up and see that what's happening in the video is exactly the problem?

And now I just read this is the same guy who Commissioner Pindi and was implicated (and then acquitted by yours truly) during the ring road scandal.

 

[Jango]

The bitter part is that people running this country want to run it in this specific fashion.

Are you @VCheng in disguise?

But you are right. Take this secretary guy for example. Once someone proposes a system which encroaches on his kingdom, he and his cadre will throw a fit. And we would be stuck. Same goes with every other part of the system.

 

[K2RULEZ]

This is frankly bullshit.

What was this guy doing all the time before? PIMS is literally the first hospital that comes to your mind if you are in Islamabad, or heck even KP or AJK.

Secondly, why does a secretary health need to be administrating a hospital? He needs to be looking at bureaucratic functions at the ministry, not micro-managing a hospital. That's the job of the MD or executive at the hospital who get paid to do this.

But then we have ministers micro managing departments, what to expect.

When will people wake up and see that what's happening in the video is exactly the problem?

You said it. Why does a secretary health need to be administrating a hospital? That is the crux of the problem. These people seek full control. These people got into power through deceit and brute force.

This latest incident is less of an isolated anomaly and more of a symptom of a much broader problem. Across the board, it seems like positions of power and authority are increasingly held by individuals who lack competence, integrity and a genuine commitment to the public good.

It feels like a mirror held up to the entire country.

 

[K2RULEZ]

Are you @VCheng in disguise?

But you are right. Take this secretary guy for example. Once someone proposes a system which encroaches on his kingdom, he and his cadre will throw a fit. And we would be stuck. Same goes with every other part of the system.

I am Dalit.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@K2RULEZ

Great to see you Dalit bro, had been missing you!

Regards