Attack on Jaffer Express

[Areesh]

As expected Mahrang has started drama for the dead bodies of the terrorists?

@DESERT FIGHTER

 

[PakAl]

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[PakAl]

As expected Mahrang has started drama for the dead bodies of the terrorists?

@DESERT FIGHTER

She didn't condemn the terrorists or the attack but complaining about burying the dead without identification. Pakistan should expose the terrorists who were killed, where they from, who's family members are they, they must be exposed 24 7.

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[AZ_HighCountry]

She didn't condemn the terrorists or the attack but complaining about burying the dead without identification. Pakistan should expose the terrorists who were killed, where they from, who's family members are they, they must be exposed 24 7.

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Who's to say the Pak Army doesn't know who these people are? By remaining quiet, family members can simply disappear.

 

[PakAl]

Who's to say the Pak Army doesn't know who these people are? By remaining quiet, family members can simply disappear.

Yea but wouldn't it be better to expose the terrorists, identity who they are and expose them for the nation to see. This will unite the population against those who commit terrorism, it will expose those who give them symphathy. At the moment this lady complains about the missing people, she claims pak security forces kidnap them but when the whole nation sees the terorrists identified are some of the missing people it will create a narrative against these people.

 

[M. Sarmad]

She didn't condemn the terrorists or the attack but complaining about burying the dead without identification. Pakistan should expose the terrorists who were killed, where they from, who's family members are they, they must be exposed 24 7.

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One man’s terrorist may be another’s freedom fighter. Why, then, would Mahrang denounce those she believes are waging a struggle for justice? And she is not alone in this conviction... it resonates deeply among many Baloch people.

While enforced disappearances, extrajudicial killings and desecration of dead bodies may satisfy a desire for retribution, they do nothing to resolve the underlying grievances. Instead, they perpetuate a neverending brutal cycle of violence ...

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Yea but wouldn't it be better to expose the terrorists, identity who they are and expose them for the nation to see. This will unite the population against those who commit terrorism, it will expose those who give them symphathy. At the moment this lady complains about the missing people, she claims pak security forces kidnap them but when the whole nation sees the terorrists identified are some of the missing people it will create a narrative against these people.

You make good points. I cannot disagree with that logic.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

One man’s terrorist may be another’s freedom fighter. Why, then, would Mahrang denounce those she believes are waging a struggle for justice? And she is not alone in this conviction... it resonates deeply among many Baloch people.

While enforced disappearances, extrajudicial killings and desecration of dead bodies may satisfy a desire for retribution, they do nothing to resolve the underlying grievances. Instead, they perpetuate a neverending brutal cycle of violence ...

There is that then again, it's not hard for a reasonable person to be able to distinguish between the two.

 

[Azin]

She didn't condemn the terrorists or the attack but complaining about burying the dead without identification. Pakistan should expose the terrorists who were killed, where they from, who's family members are they, they must be exposed 24 7.

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I'll go and piss on their graves

 

[Areesh]

Why, then, would Mahrang denounce those she believes are waging a struggle for justice?

Then she should call herself "BLA rights activist" instead of "human rights activist" because clearly she is not even Baloch rights activist properly

 

[SteppeWolff]

One man’s terrorist may be another’s freedom fighter. Why, then, would Mahrang denounce those she believes are waging a struggle for justice?

So in more simple terms; she's a terrorist sympathizer.

If Baloch want to "fight" for their rights, killing common people from other provinces isn't the way. It just shows they want to start ethnic conflicts inside Pakistan to further destabilise it.

Edit: Not Baloch, as I personally know many Baloch who are patriotic to the core. BLA BLF shouldnt be equated with the Baloch.

 

[M. Sarmad]

So in more simple terms; she's a terrorist sympathizer.

If Baloch want to "fight" for their rights, killing common people from other provinces isn't the way. It just shows they want to start ethnic conflicts inside Pakistan to further destabilise it.

Edit: Not Baloch, as I personally know many Baloch who are patriotic to the core. BLA BLF shouldnt be equated with the Baloch.

Sir, the first step in solving a problem is recognizing that one exists. Denial won't help.

And while there is a absolutely no justification for the terrorist activities carried out by groups like the BLA and BLF (who intentionally target civilians)... the state's use of enforced disappearances and extrajudicial killings (indiscriminate mostly) as a response is equally counterproductive and only perpetuates the cycle of violence...

 

[M. Sarmad]

Then she should call herself "BLA rights activist" instead of "human rights activist" because clearly she is not even Baloch rights activist properly

At best, she’s an "ideological opportunist," using the language of human rights to mask her support for violent agendas. Still, she's a step above the militants (who rely on guns rather than words), occasionally offering arguments that are, at times, even convincing.

 

[Areesh]

So in more simple terms; she's a terrorist sympathizer.

If Baloch want to "fight" for their rights, killing common people from other provinces isn't the way. It just shows they want to start ethnic conflicts inside Pakistan to further destabilise it.

Edit: Not Baloch, as I personally know many Baloch who are patriotic to the core. BLA BLF shouldnt be equated with the Baloch.

Let me share the "rights" that father of Mahrang and the organization he belonged to struggles for

Balochistan is a Baloch land only (ignore all pashtuns, hazaras, sindhis and brahvis living in Balochistan) and anyone who doesn't agree to this is an occupier and it is perfectly legitimate to kill an occupier

That is the "right" they are struggling for. They are not struggling for better infrastructure. Not for social justice. Not for missing persons. Not for mineral control. This is the actual right for which whole struggle is for

 

[SteppeWolff]

Sir, the first step in solving a problem is recognizing that one exists. Denial won't help.

And while there is a absolutely no justification for the terrorist activities carried out by groups like the BLA and BLF (who intentionally target civilians)... the state's use of enforced disappearances and extrajudicial killings (indiscriminate mostly) as a response is equally counterproductive and only perpetuates the cycle of violence...

Sir I have been saying the same thing in this thread since past few days. I am certainly not in denial. There is no military solution to the Balochs issue. Until good governance doesn't come, state doesn't dismantle the Sardar system, bring education and development, no amount of military actions would solve the insurgency. Baloch need political rights and representation and a platform to raise their concerns. This has been my stance since the start.

But I would never support that charlatan named Mahrang. Anyone who's a BLA BLF sympthazer is a traitor to Pakistan. Those doing enforced disappearances and extra judicial killings also are traitors.