Balochistan Terrorism Watch

[maverik]

Is this Pakistani APC?

@Aliso5 see what I meant

its afghanistan see ther rikshaws it an old video

 

[El Sidd]

its afghanistan see ther rikshaws it an old video

The user that shared the video does not care. This may not be the only platform he shared the video with and the purpose is simple and plain, propaganda against the state.

These are the social media warriors while the 200 odd killed are foot soldiers of the cause. The same goes for those bringing in Dhaka fall and apparent persecution of the people and subjugation of their cultural rights whatsoever that means.

 

[maverik]

The user that shared the video does not care. This may not be the only platform he shared the video with and the purpose is simple and plain, propaganda against the state.

These are the social media warriors while the 200 odd killed are foot soldiers of the cause. The same goes for those bringing in Dhaka fall and apparent persecution of the people and subjugation of their cultural rights whatsoever that means.

Unfortuanatly that exactly the case

 

[El Sidd]

Unfortuanatly that exactly the case

It's classic tactics of demoralisation and desensitisation.

I think they are building up narrative for protests in Pakistan.

 

[hussain0216]

It's classic tactics of demoralisation and desensitisation.

I think they are building up narrative for protests in Pakistan.

It's ethnocentric propaganda

This is what we are dealing with, and we can no longer go easy on these people

 

[El Sidd]

It's ethnocentric propaganda

This is what we are dealing with, and we can no longer go easy on these people

He is not from Balochistan but Pakhtunistan. The only common denominator in these people throwing persecution, cultural subjugation and protectionism is PTI.

 

[SteppeWolff]

I would like to know from you, as a Baloch;

I am not a Baloch.

what the levels of separatism are in each of the districts in Balochistan?

Kech, Panjgur, Gwadar, Awaran, parts of Nushki, Washuk, Chagai as most would know by now have a massive separatist problem and unfortunately locals do abett and facilitate. Hot beds of BLA, and others.

Kalat, Khuzdar etc are somewhere in the middle. Discontent is there, but locals ( from what I know or have seen ) aren't that much fond of Baloch insurgents. Kalat is also overwhelmingly Brahui.

Northern Balochistan districts like Zhob, Pishin, Killa Saiullah, Musakhel etc ( the Pashtun belt ) has its own problems, discontent and annoyance with the state, Afghan problems, but Baloch seperatism isnt here.

And which districts are absolute no-go areas for non-Baloch Pakistanis (basically Urdu speaking, Punjabi speakers; not Sindhis and Pashtuns)?

Turbat ( Kech ), Panjgur to Nushki corridor, outskirts of Gwadar, Awaran districts, Dalbandin, Washuk etc. Nor I would go there without proper arrangements nor I'd suggest you ( unless you have an escort ).

I am assuming you have lived at least a few years in Balochistan, or at least know family members that are there.

I have lived 18 years out of my 23 in Balochistan. And I still do visit it regularly.

 

[SteppeWolff]

And if you try to establish security (through targeted military operations), then you risk alienating the local Baloch population in Baloch majority districts, and fanning more separatist sentiments.

The separatist sentiments are already strong. Why not the gloves off, seal the Afghan border and do a province wide military operation once and for all? And then bring development?

People are people at the end of the day. Give them the carrot of development and incentives and they'll be back in the fold.

Pakistan isn't fckin Niger or Senegal, we should grow a pair and send these terrorist f@gs to hell. The restraint policy clearly isn't working.

 

[hussain0216]

He is not from Balochistan but Pakhtunistan. The only common denominator in these people throwing persecution, cultural subjugation and protectionism is PTI.

The point is that dude knows this is some old video, so why try to spread this propaganda????

What's your aim

It's a openly anti Pakistan act, and under any system of law secular, Islamic or otherwise punishable

The PTI cult, is part of the system spreading propaganda against Pakistan

It's gone from a political party to a means for ethno extremists to make a play for division and control


The neverending story, is that security forces are failing at their job


The real story is that these populations have long been COMPLICIT in anti Pakistan activity and have only presented themselves as citizens due to the risk of war against Pakistan and it's military and Patriots


I will repeat THEY ARE NOT PAKISTANI

We owe them nothing as enemies, and I would rather OPEN WAR against these enemies and Afghanistan then this situation where we have to tolerate these snakes


The locals in the tribal areas, Tirah, backwards parts of Balochistan are complicit

We can't buy these scum bags with tax payers money, they are too racist and delusional

Nor should we waste tax payers money on theze numbskulls


I don't care if their girls are on education

I don't care if they have health care or gas and water

They are not Pakistani that we should be bending out backs to provide for them, lock their areas down, make them into security zones and blast anyone or anything that takes on Pakistan


Seal the border,
End trade with afghans
No port access and no movement of people whatsoever

Send in death squads to repay the debt on the Afghans


Until we get serious against these enemies they will use the space and time to harm Pakistan

 

[unconventional]

The separatist sentiments are already strong. Why not the gloves off, seal the Afghan border and do a province wide military operation once and for all? And then bring development?

People are people at the end of the day. Give them the carrot of development and incentives and they'll be back in the fold.

Pakistan isn't fckin Niger or Senegal, we should grow a pair and send these terrorist f@gs to hell. The restraint policy clearly isn't working.

Thank you for all your amazing insight. you have some really valuable input on this topic, as someone who has lived in Balochistan for 18 /23 years of his life.

But you are also not Baloch (I am assuming you are Pashtun then, probably belonging to the Pashtun districts), and one also needs to understand the Baloch experience.

I am sure you have Baloch friends from Balochistan, would you say they agree with this approach you have stated (take gloves off)?

Now, I think the Afghan border definitely needs to be sealed right away. There is too much infiltration in there: TTP/TTA elements from Afghanistan infiltrating into Pashtun districts of Balochistan; BLA and other terrorists into Baloch districts.

I know sealing the Afghan border will bring immediate results in the Pashtun belt of Balochistan; for the Baloch belt, it will improve things, but the discontent is still there.

For the Baloch, I am interested in a comprehensive strategy. Yes, sealing the border and targeted operations is the way to go for the short-term. But this is applying a band-aid to a life threatening wound. Eventually, the buy-in of the Baloch people is absolutely needed for a more sustainable, peaceful future for everyone. Which is why I am proposing that there is a Baloch-owned roadmap devised by the Baloch people themselves that has all options on the table (besides independence); and that should be considered very seriously and implemented by all stakeholders on the national level.

One also needs Baloch people living in other provinces peacefully to stand up and speak, their experiences inside Balochistan and in other provinces will be very different. I have met many Baloch people in Sindh and Punjab that are much more integrated with Pakistan than probably the Baloch inside Balochistan.

 

[maverik]

It's classic tactics of demoralisation and desensitisation.

I think they are building up narrative for protests in Pakistan.

governament need to actively block these account if we are serious about 5 dimention warefare

 

[Reichmarshal]

Doesn't change the fact it's name was Balochistan and first documented as such in 1530:

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Let's not get trapped in semantics and history lesson. Thanks.

The name "Balochistan" (or Baluchistan), gained prominence in the 18th century, becoming firmly established when Nasir Khan I of Kalat unified the region in the late 18th century. While the Baloch people arrived earlier, the area was often named for other tribes before the 18th-century political unification.

 

[Fatman17]

EDITORIAL: To defeat terrorist groups that have caused immense bloodshed in Balochistan over the past few decades, the state must take a multifaceted approach. This must include the kinetic factor, as evidenced by Operation Radd-ul-Fitna 1, which the authorities launched after last week’s deadly terrorist attacks in the province.

However, beyond this, there must be complementary legal actions, as well as political and socioeconomic steps to address both the immediate threat of separatist violence and the underlying factors that fuel it. The need to recalibrate the national counterterrorism policy to address fresh threats has been recently mentioned in this space. Yet the state must also mount a campaign on the foreign front to confront inimical actors in the region who appear to be playing a role in fuelling terrorism in both Balochistan and KP. In this regard, Pakistan has urged the UN Security Council to “act swiftly” and list the BLA as a terrorist outfit.

Read more: https://www.dawn.com/news/1971362

 

[Jango]

The separatist sentiments are already strong. Why not the gloves off, seal the Afghan border and do a province wide military operation once and for all? And then bring development?

People are people at the end of the day. Give them the carrot of development and incentives and they'll be back in the fold.

Pakistan isn't fckin Niger or Senegal, we should grow a pair and send these terrorist f@gs to hell. The restraint policy clearly isn't working.

I think it's high time to accept it isn't a restraint problem, it's a capacity problem with a sprinkling of funding.

No restraint is stopping you from keeping 12 of your towns secure. No restraint has ever stopped you from doing whatever else you want in the country. It's among the basic responsibilities of the government/state, to keep the people secure. You don't play kiddie gloves and restraint when every other month, half a dozen (if we are lucky) cities get practically ransacked and looted. Phir aap kay pas Goebbel tactics reh jatay hain to defend yourself.

Don't take it the wrong way. As I said, our response and capabilities in alot of areas have improved (20 years back we wouldn't have been able to do much about this sort of an attack), but this country really has to ditch the politics aside and get serious about the Baloch and TTP issue.

 

[F.O.X]

So, as per Reuters, BLA had Noushki under their control for three whole days before the military wrestled it back from the militants by deploying additional troops, helicopters, and drones.

Are they exaggerating or what? I mean, how can a ragtag militia without any proper heavy weaponry 'hold' a big town like this? We have seen how the BLA militants just ran away on the sight of our MRAP (Sariyab road, Quetta encounter?), but they 'held' Noushki for three days?!?! wtf? Massive local support is my honest guess, if this is indeed true, because Noushki is one of the biggest BLA hubs out there.

Where in the article does it say that ?