Balochistan Terrorism Watch

mejazi said:
We have 16 C130s, ambushes are not news, its callous to fill transport mafia coffers. Even refurbish some of the Saudi stock, carry 100 soldiers per craft, 2 hr journey from Lahore to Quetta.

Playing into the hands of the enemy. Always going to get rocked when your supply lines are so stretched out. Airlifts solve that problem.
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I dont disagree or agree with what you saying. Just wanted to point out that we are talking about transporting Pakistani troops within Pakistan borders from one region to another. And saying somehow land routes and not safe and air routes should be used.

Man.... this is fcukedup situation.
 
mythbuster said:
What are the grievances of BLA and TTP ? ....what shall the state do to pacify them ......I will appreciate concrete solutions, not sweeping statement from the pulpit.
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You are asking the wrong question....

BLA and TTP don't need to be "pacified.", they need to be neutralized..... They are armed terror groups.... Fight them, arrest them, prosecute them, or even better kill them wherever you find them...

The real question is: what are the grievances of the broader populations from which these groups seek recruits, sympathy, or passive support?

The solution is neither unconditional concessions nor endless force.... It is a combination of security, rule of law, political inclusion, accountable governance, economic opportunity, and ending the practice of treating every dissenting voice as a security threat....

Terrorists (BLA, TTPetc) are a security problem.... Alienation (among broader Baloch/Pashtun populations) is a political problem.... Pakistan's mistake has been treating both as the same thing....
 
White Privilege said:
It is visible fake,it is too HD to be recorded in the field , probably recorded by good placed cameras, however this could be BLA too, trying to discredit the true operation videos, has this video been shared by official sources and where??
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Was initially shared by a mix of low level army dickrider accounts then picked up and by afghan TTA/TTP and some vague BLA accounts to mock us
It also looks fake to me cause these fanatics have well planned out and executed ambushes very rarely they get caught with their pants down it is usually happen to our side we get our guard down and get hit with multiple lightening hits from multiple angles
 
M. Sarmad said:
You are asking the wrong question....

BLA and TTP don't need to be "pacified.", they need to be neutralized..... They are armed terror groups.... Fight them, arrest them, prosecute them, or even better kill them wherever you find them...

The real question is: what are the grievances of the broader populations from which these groups seek recruits, sympathy, or passive support?

The solution is neither unconditional concessions nor endless force.... It is a combination of security, rule of law, political inclusion, accountable governance, economic opportunity, and ending the practice of treating every dissenting voice as a security threat....

Terrorists (BLA, TTPetc) are a security problem.... Alienation (among broader Baloch/Pashtun populations) is a political problem.... Pakistan's mistake has been treating both as the same thing....
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Their is no political solution,, who are are you having a political solution with????

Who are they representing?

How many of the population do they represent?

What are their demands? Are those demands even tolerable?

Does this include using tax payers money from other people in Pakistan, to pay for these savages


Before you can come up with a solution you need to crush the insurgency, if you want to crush the insurgency, then crush it's roots, it's kin and target their areas, especially I. Afghanistan with overwhelming force


You can't try to hunt down BLA in a area as big as France where the attack can come from anywhere, you make your own forces sitting ducks



Start a massive programme of missing persons where you start to destroy enemy groups and populations and start pushing them into Afghanistan
 
hussain0216 said:
Their is no political solution,, who are are you having a political solution with????

Who are they representing?

How many of the population do they represent?

What are their demands? Are those demands even tolerable?

Does this include using tax payers money from other people in Pakistan, to pay for these savages


Before you can come up with a solution you need to crush the insurgency, if you want to crush the insurgency, then crush it's roots, it's kin and target their areas, especially I. Afghanistan with overwhelming force


You can't try to hunt down BLA in a area as big as France where the attack can come from anywhere, you make your own forces sitting ducks



Start a massive programme of missing persons where you start to destroy enemy groups and populations and start pushing them into Afghanistan
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There is a wage earning class that gets most of the NFC award money, while the province gets over 3x of its contribution to the federal kitty.

Never been a question about ignoring the Baloch, its just that one sector, the govt paid employees keep most of the proceeds from Islamabad through salary and pension increases. Still out of millions, you have about 3-5k bad actors.
 
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M. Sarmad said:
You are asking the wrong question....

BLA and TTP don't need to be "pacified.", they need to be neutralized..... They are armed terror groups.... Fight them, arrest them, prosecute them, or even better kill them wherever you find them...

The real question is: what are the grievances of the broader populations from which these groups seek recruits, sympathy, or passive support?

The solution is neither unconditional concessions nor endless force.... It is a combination of security, rule of law, political inclusion, accountable governance, economic opportunity, and ending the practice of treating every dissenting voice as a security threat....

Terrorists (BLA, TTPetc) are a security problem.... Alienation (among broader Baloch/Pashtun populations) is a political problem.... Pakistan's mistake has been treating both as the same thing....
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You are right. But the point is that in order to really get rid of this minus you have got to win the hearts and minds of the people. With fire power alone, you can't achieve this objective, not at all.

Forget about the aspiration of a common Baloch...largely, it's a vassal society, ruled by the Sardars. It is those sardars who should be targeted, essentially in order to achieve the desired objective.

Give them money to the teeth. More than what they get from India. A little bit of power. Few Toyota land cruisers. And they are good to ho with you. They will do all that you want.

I agree that Uncle Sam, Israel, and UAE have formed a nexus, but this is not a bad recipe to try the fullest.

Dont offend them for a few years until this is subdued.
 
muz said:
What is the point even if we eleminated some they would just go and recruit some more
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I think it wasn't their hideout even.. seems some urban setup... If they had put up a flat on their hideout, they are plain stupid.
 
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