Bangladesh Air Force

I still maintain that the Gripen E/F and GlobalEye combination would work well for the BAF. At this stage, it shouldn't have a problem getting US clearances for the ITAR inputs in the Gripen, and it can leverage European munitions in lieu of US ones if necessary.

The Gripen is also a good A2/AD asset. The BAF could build an entire ecosystem (like ad hoc or temporary airfields) around it. Combined with a good IADS (e.g., IRIS-T SL/SLM/SLX), the BAF can be a potent force.
 
I still maintain that the Gripen E/F and GlobalEye combination would work well for the BAF. At this stage, it shouldn't have a problem getting US clearances for the ITAR inputs in the Gripen, and it can leverage European munitions in lieu of US ones if necessary.

The Gripen is also a good A2/AD asset. The BAF could build an entire ecosystem (like ad hoc or temporary airfields) around it. Combined with a good IADS (e.g., IRIS-T SL/SLM/SLX), the BAF can be a potent force.

I agree that Gripen would have been perfect. But the problem is with Gripen's US manufactured engines. With Sheikh Hasina continuing with her one-party rule, the relationship with US is strained at this time. That's the reason BAF can't go for Gripen. Unless Hasina switches over to the US camp from China-Russia camp.

Under current status quo, J-10 is the best alternative.
 
Please don't make fun of Bangladesh non-Air Force, BoAF.

If you keep pushing, they'll land us some more useless Russky-Pussky 3rd rate crap (no targeting radars and no BVR missiles) to satisfy neighboring road shatters to the west so that their security can be ensured at the expense of our national security.

Or worse (what could be even worse, right?), they'll procure 8/10/12 flying ghuri's (kites) from the road shatters, again without any targeting radars and BVR missiles. And to put a cherry on top, will require our pilots and maintenance/servicing personnel to go there to get training and all overhauling will be done by shipping the planes to their factories (last part BTW was the original plan for Hagena Magi-29. Good thing Russky-Pusskys stopped all spare supplies and we had to ground them for some 5+ years).


No. Lets wait until we have a proper election and a govt. that represents us (the voters) and our national security interests, not some road sheeters.
Unfortunately that may take more time than anyone has dude.... we just have to make do with the cards we have.
 
I still maintain that the Gripen E/F and GlobalEye combination would work well for the BAF. At this stage, it shouldn't have a problem getting US clearances for the ITAR inputs in the Gripen, and it can leverage European munitions in lieu of US ones if necessary.

The Gripen is also a good A2/AD asset. The BAF could build an entire ecosystem (like ad hoc or temporary airfields) around it. Combined with a good IADS (e.g., IRIS-T SL/SLM/SLX), the BAF can be a potent force.

Tough situation for BAF, it has no strategic depth and 90-95% of it's border is with India. You could pretty much hit any aircraft flying in BD with Meteor from safe inside India. Also the small size of BD would make scrambling to intercept near impossible to do in time.

I would say just have very comprehensive layer of shore based and off shore SAMs. Say Land and sea CAMM-ER and maybe even Patriots. make any incursion too costly. These systems can also intercept almost instantly. In addition to these maybe few light COIN planes for Myanamar border
 
Tough situation for BAF, it has no strategic depth and 90-95% of it's border is with India. You could pretty much hit any aircraft flying in BD with Meteor from safe inside India. Also the small size of BD would make scrambling to intercept near impossible to do in time.

I would say just have very comprehensive layer of shore based and off shore SAMs. Say Land and sea CAMM-ER and maybe even Patriots. make any incursion too costly. These systems can also intercept almost instantly. In addition to these maybe few light COIN planes for Myanamar border
If BD completes purchase of EFT + Meteor then IAF raffles can be countered.

BD actually have a fairly good radar setup, so we do have a good situational awareness of enemy aircrafts outside our border.

Main issue do not have much to counter them.

SAM strategy as you suggest is a no brainer but our military seems to sleeping on the job.
 
SAM strategy as you suggest is a no brainer but our military seems to sleeping on the job.

No, they are heavily influenced by India and will not make any defense related acquisitions for which they do not receive green light from India.
 
No, they are heavily influenced by India and will not make any defense related acquisitions for which they do not receive green light from India.

Its not that.

They are just incompetent business oriented buffons.

Hasina government also prioritize economic development.

A option for BD is to actually start up Universities specially built for indiginous weapon design and companies who manufacture them.

BD should start with tech-transfer weapons deal. Begin with small things and then advance further up the ladder.

Focus of Air Defence and A2/AD oriented weapons design and procurement.

Further down the like BD should focus more heavily on naval vessels, especially submarines. Have a army of small-medium submarines which carries medium-range ballistic/non-ballistic missiles.
 
No, they are heavily influenced by India and will not make any defense related acquisitions for which they do not receive green light from India.
No that is not the case. They simply lack vision. Their priority is to undertake UN missions and set up business for when the retire.

Setting up proper defense of the nation is not on the top of their priorities.
 
If BD completes purchase of EFT + Meteor then IAF raffles can be countered.

BD actually have a fairly good radar setup, so we do have a good situational awareness of enemy aircrafts outside our border.

Main issue do not have much to counter them.

SAM strategy as you suggest is a no brainer but our military seems to sleeping on the job.

It is not a matter of what fighter you have, it is simple size of country. The moment it leaves runway the plane is within Indian BVR range before it can get airborne properly
 
It is not a matter of what fighter you have, it is simple size of country. The moment it leaves runway the plane is within Indian BVR range before it can get airborne properly
As BAF planes comes into IAF BVR range ( in actuality it does not) with 4th gen fighters such as EFT so will any IAF jets from indian bases.

The size of the country is not such a disadvantage as you think.
 
As BAF planes comes into IAF BVR range ( in actuality it does not) with 4th gen fighters such as EFT so will any IAF jets from indian bases.

The size of the country is not such a disadvantage as you think.
It is suicide. You have a small country surrounded almost completely by a larger neighbour. Any air to air confrontations will be very short and end up in the IAF's favour. That is no detriment to the skill and efficiency of BAF or it's equipment. Would happen to any force in a similar situation.

Better use of long and medium range SAMs, deny any IAF aircraft ability to operate
 
It is suicide. You have a small country surrounded almost completely by a larger neighbour. Any air to air confrontations will be very short and end up in the IAF's favour. That is no detriment to the skill and efficiency of BAF or it's equipment. Would happen to any force in a similar situation.

Better use of long and medium range SAMs, deny any IAF aircraft ability to operate
Actually size of Bangladesh will not be an issue..... if you look at Isreal then Bangladesh is actually 4 to 5 times bigger geographically compared to Israel and israel is surrounded by much larger hostile neighbors like Jordan and Egypt (armed to teeth) and Syria...... still they have a solid defense....

It's not size it's doctrine what matters..... if Bangladesh has to overcome of it's smaller size compared to India or Burma then it has to adopt offensive doctrine and preempt these countries..... Typhoon if they are successful in bringing it will be a nightmare for it's both neighbors if they have offensive doctrine.....
 
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Tough situation for BAF, it has no strategic depth and 90-95% of it's border is with India. You could pretty much hit any aircraft flying in BD with Meteor from safe inside India. Also the small size of BD would make scrambling to intercept near impossible to do in time.
Well then, it is a good thing that Bangladesh and India have friendly relations, and neither air force expects to have to confront the other.
 
@Quwa Yes, if only BAF was competence and innovative enough for out of the box thinking and a new reform.

In an Ideal condition, 24x Gripen for more or less $3 billion would've been a better choice than 16 Eurofighter.


1. We could make two squadron with independent operational sctrucutre. Permanently assigned them at two different air bases (preferably at Dhaka and Chottogram)

2. And at war time we could easily disperse them at multiple bases and airfields. (Enhancing the survivability of the platform and increasing the operational flexibility, in the meantime maintaining the qualitative advantage with gripen)


However, what we are talking about above would require doctrinal changes not only for the BAF, but also for all warfighting forces across the spectrum.
Bacause in reality such single engine fighter would only be best suited for A2A or A2G/A2S missions at once per individual sorties.

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A2A loadout With a single fuel tank under the main fuselage (like the picture below) to increase flight hour/airborne time for CAP.

Or like this one for mainly A2G

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Even though gripen technically can perform both A2A and A2G in single sortie but it is practically insufficient for a single engine light fighter. (As it won't be able to maintain 4 BVR missiles while performing dual mission in single sortie) Especially when we are planning to go against numerically superior adversary while relying only on the qualitative age.

However, when it comes to the Eurofighter, it can effectively carry out both A2A A2G mission in a single sortie somewhat sufficiently thanks to its twin engine and 14 hard point.

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Changing those two fuel tanks under the wing with two NSM/JSM or scalp while adding one under the main fuselage (like the picture below)

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And this is advantageous considering our Numerical limitation.

For example, in case of a conflict with Mayanmar two BAF typhoon can take off and perform deep strike/Anti ship strike while simultaneously be completely ready for CAP and A2A engagement with over the bay of bengal or at our south-eastern airspace, all in relative sufficiency in a single sortie.


Also, after receiving warning from our early warning radars about approaching potential enemy aircrafts, it is tactically time critical to climb up to the higher altitude (Typhoon can climb up to 9000 meters in 60 seconds) given our uncomfortably small Airspace and lack of strategic depth.
Specially when we will deploy some of the fighters at Chottogram or Cox bazar. And twin engine jet, more specifically Eurofighter is very ideal for that.


Unlike Gripen which has quite a low thrust to weight ratio.


So, in a nutshell with single engine fighter BAF A2G/A2S strike capability would become limited, as they would likely to require proper A2A escorts in highly contested airspace.

If we want BAF to become a dedicated force for airspace denial role with single engine platforms, ( which would be a very sound strategy considering all the aspects ) that would require a revaluation of army and navy's dependency on BAF for deep strike and anti ship missions.

Hence the question is, can they achieve those without too much dependency on BAF?

I would say yes, specially for navy. Our new frigates+new submarines ( +preferably 2/3 costal batteries ) would be sufficient enough even without air forces A2S support.

However, for army that would be more complicated.
But in my opinion, we should invest heavily in type-A (like khan) and type-b MLRS (like TRG-300) capabilities to strike targets behind enemy lines. (similar to how Ukraine did)

And this is how BAF can rightfully focus on its main strategic objective, which would be Airspace denial.

However, it would require doctrinal changes across the all spectrum. Which is unlikely to happen.
 

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