Bangladesh Air Force

[Afif]

One issue I can foresee is whether South Korea will be willing to allow KF 21 with an air force friendly to China.

This isn't gonna be an issue. We are exactly that much aligned with China. Our best fighters are Russian. Everyone knows we are looking to westernize. Both France and Brits/Italians offered Rafale and Eurofighter.

 

[LeonBlack08]

Around 15km away.

Super close. Not ideal at all.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Even in an alternate universe, BD ain't buying SU57. Russia's SU57 customer is Algeria. This option is permanently out if we want to remain on good term with the West. You are
too optimistic bro. Air chief didn't exactly said anything about emergency procurement. He said, they are now focusing on MRCA (given mig29 came 25 years ago. And there hasn't been any progress since) Which is set to be twin engine platform from the beginning. Unless that tender is cancelled and a new one is launched it will remain so with previous specs set. So, no J17 or J10.

J35 will be a shock. But I will take it.

I am not certain about which platform.... speculation on my part...
but yes that MRCA tender and every requirement related to it is dead... According to that requirement we were looking for a 4th generation aircraft but now the horses's mouth is talking about 5th gen so yes j35 is plausible...

we will have to wait and see... the only reason j10 didn't materialize is Hasina or else we would have been launch customer with A variant a decade ago

 

[Michael Corleone]

Bro what? Tube artillery has a rangee of 40km and Rocket artillery has 70km range. The base will be flatten in event of any conflict with India. However it will be very useful against Myanmar. As it is fathest from it and outside its ballistic missiles reach.

Truth be told any and all bases in bd can be compromised one way or the other.... hardened shelter and unconventional operations like the swedes is the way to go

 

[Michael Corleone]

Do we know how far inland the base is going to be? We have to keep a constant eye on Indian troop movement to detect any preemptive strike ever. Given the distance, there won't be much time to relocate fighters in the event of an undetected preemptive strike.

Also hearing that China is going to provide tech support to build the base?

It's an already existing base at lalmonirhat... WW2 era british base... we didn't keep it active the last 50 years because you could station our whole fleet in there and still have space for another fleet.... I am not strategist so I wouldn't be able to tell if it's worth the investment to reactivate it but if India already have a base so close to it... i don't think they'll for a preemptive strike with jets.... but as @Afif said... rocket propelled guided artillery could make a short work of it....

 

[Michael Corleone]

Bro, I am trying to tell you guys why these are not good choices. With the RCS signeture these jets has, Just by deploying an S400 battery in West Bengal or in Tripura India can shoot them down over Dhaka and impose a no fly zone. We Need something low observable if deterring India is sought. That's why I am advocating for KF21, KE or even J35A. If Myanmar is the concern then, yeah. J10c can do good.

KF21 is not low observable though... atleast not until future upgrades that they said would come after it enters service...

KAAN and more redily... j35 is our only answer to stay up to date... cuz at the rate we purchase jets... we will always be 2 generations behind if we seek 4th gen

 

[Michael Corleone]

One issue I can foresee is whether South Korea will be willing to allow KF 21 with an air force friendly to China. Indonesia probably won't have any issue, since they don't have an active claim on the South China sea territorial dispute and recently they signed a 10 billion dollar business deal with China.

KF21 will get vetoed down by uncle sam like the gripens

 

[Afif]

KF21 is not low observable though... atleast not until future upgrades that they said would come after it enters service...

I know but has lower rcs compared to any other 4.5th gen platforms. The lower the better.

Truth be told any and all bases in bd can be compromised one way or the other.... hardened shelter and unconventional operations like the swedes is the way to go

Not all bases, there are few bases that is thankfully outside the reach of Indian MLRS range. IMO, BAF should concentrate on upgrading those.

For exmaple, Coxbazar airport which has been upgraded to BAF air base.

Similarly, Barishal airport should be upgraded.

Also, upcoming patuakhali airport should include BAF base.

Plus, they could also upgrade old patuakhali airport which is under Navy's control.

But these are for peacetime permanent basing.

For wartime, I think BAF must Adopt CONOPS similar to USAF agile combat employment. Using highways as runways to generate combat sorties.

In the end all fo BD is within India's ballistic and cruise missile range. And we simply don't have the resources to posses required numbers of air defense interceptors to outlast their missile stock. So, all permanent bases will destroyed or degraded.

 

[LeonBlack08]

It's an already existing base at lalmonirhat... WW2 era british base... we didn't keep it active the last 50 years because you could station our whole fleet in there and still have space for another fleet.... I am not strategist so I wouldn't be able to tell if it's worth the investment to reactivate it but if India already have a base so close to it... i don't think they'll for a preemptive strike with jets.... but as @Afif said... rocket propelled guided artillery could make a short work of it....

I was also referring to preemptive strike through artillery since it is within artillery range. They don't need to use jets or missiles even if it is just 15 km from border.

 

[Indos]

One issue I can foresee is whether South Korea will be willing to allow KF 21 with an air force friendly to China. Indonesia probably won't have any issue, since they don't have an active claim on the South China sea territorial dispute and recently they signed a 10 billion dollar business deal with China.

Put Korean there inside the plane hangar, the same like what USA do when Indonesia buy Apache

 

[Pingle]

Put Korean there inside the plane hangar, the same like what USA do when Indonesia buy Apache

See this is what happens when you buy American weapons....... when India purchased USN Trenton now INS Jalashwa after 1 year Americans came to check if India has modified ship to deliver strategic weapons or not.....

 

[Indos]

See this is what happens when you buy American weapons....... when India purchased USN Trenton now INS Jalashwa after 1 year Americans came to check if India has modified ship to deliver strategic weapons or not.....

Indonesia is now not keen to much in buying US weapons. We get basically very cheap 24 F16 from US under Obama with adding existing 10 F16 A/B bought in late 80's

Buying US weapons during cold war is not a mistake, it is necessary during that period as we dont have diplomatic relation with both USSR and China and communist is real threat for Muslims as well

Buying Apache just for 8 helicopters are good to improve our tactic and see the strength and weakness of using attack helicopter

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[Michael Corleone]

@LeonBlack08 @Afif

Did some more digging. The closest Indian border to that airbase is 14km… also it was the main airbase during Pakistan times and Bangladesh had always plans for it to be main air base but Mujib and later every single administration prevented it to India’s dismay


Edited: Zia was the last person trying to activate it. China is gonna help in reactivation and work will be done in 2028

 

[Indos]

Indonesia is now not keen to much in buying US weapons. We get basically very cheap 24 F16 from US under Obama with adding existing 10 F16 A/B bought in late 80's

Buying US weapons during cold war is not a mistake, it is necessary during that period as we dont have diplomatic relation with both USSR and China and communist is real threat for Muslims as well

Buying Apache just for 8 helicopters are good to improve our tactic and see the strength and weakness of using attack helicopter

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If we see Attack helicopter is really lethal, then we have prepared to make one

 

[Pingle]

Indonesia is now not keen to much in buying US weapons. We get basically very cheap 24 F16 from US under Obama with adding existing 10 F16 A/B bought in late 80's

Buying US weapons during cold war is not a mistake, it is necessary during that period as we dont have diplomatic relation with both USSR and China and communist is real threat for Muslims as well

Buying Apache just for 8 helicopters are good to improve our tactic and see the strength and weakness of using attack helicopter

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It's really great to see Indonesia is trying to be independent with local manufacturing.....
When Americans checked our INS Jalashwa which we paid for it was a straight slap on our sovereignty......