r3alist
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What about protecting the West Bank and what's there.If Pakistan ever had any intention of fighting against Israel, they would have already
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What about protecting the West Bank and what's there.If Pakistan ever had any intention of fighting against Israel, they would have already
Are you mentally challenged jeet?
That's literally what Pakistan needs at maximum. We dont need their manpower.
So many questions! Fear not. All shall be revealed in good time. Then you may sleep easy.Then that begs the question, why are you in this defense pact at all?
If not to fleece money from the Saudis?
India and Israel.That's why I firmly believe that this pact is an attention seeking charade, with no clearly defined or even a common enemy
No, I am saying this defense pact is a charade.
They will be no Turks and there will be no Saudis in Pakistan's fight againt India. They might provide weapons or money, but that will be the extent of it.
I still think that is all secondary. Id like to see Pak, Turkiye, SA take concrete steps in integrating their C&C, theater defence, increased partnerships in military training, procurement, they need to have common systems and a few real life use cases to see how they react before the pact increases.The pact does not need more man power, It has enough of that already, it needs hard military capability now and collaborative technology development for the future. Bangladesh brings neither to the table. It is now, and will be for decades to come, a military basket case.
As of now, the Bangladeshi air force operates 8 x Mig29's( which all measure of news reports, are virtually non operational due to servicing issues of the engines ) and 34 x F7BG's which by all measure can just about fire spit balls at other jets... Lets not even look at their "navy", or what passes for the "army)...
Let's agree to disagree on this - and you can see for your self how this "potential" Bangladesh "evolves militarily - if ever!" ..
Worst thing would be if tiny states like Qatar , Kuwait and Bahrain ( if they become part of the alliance) get an equal say and power to derail the consensus.I still think that is all secondary. Id like to see Pak, Turkiye, SA take concrete steps in integrating their C&C, theater defence, increased partnerships in military training, procurement, they need to have common systems and a few real life use cases to see how they react before the pact increases.
My worry is adding new members without the PACT maturing into something meaningful will end up creating a weak and useless block.
There is only one nation that threatens Saudi Arabia and that is Iran and who has literally bombed Saudi Arabia in the recent past.India and Israel.
Turkey and Saudi are immediately threatened by Israel.
India is Israel's ally as well as taking hostile positions to turkey, hence Pakistan covers that base more than naturally.
It's completely symbiotic in that sense, because at least one of the 3 member's has direct enmity with at least one of Israel and India.
Repeat that slowly.
You don't understand the islamic world at all.There is only one nation that threatens Saudi Arabia and that is Iran and who has literally bombed Saudi Arabia in the recent past.
Pakistan has no stomach to open another front against an another one of its neighbors or even act against one of Iran's proxies which continue to attack the Saudis.
So, so much for the Mecca defense pact and its punch line of
"An attack on one is an attack on all."
India and Israel are friends and trade partners, just like India and Saudi Arabia or India and Iran.
On the other hand no one actually threatens Turkey. They are just an opportunist trying to establish itself a middle power.
Not that long ago Turkey was trying form a rival Sunni block with Pakistan and Malaysia, when Saudi shut it down.
How'd you know? Its not like your Vishwaguru wants to test this theory out, especially after 6-0 last yearThat's why I firmly believe that this pact is an attention seeking charade, with no clearly defined or even a common enemy.
How'd you know? Its not like your Vishwaguru wants to test this theory out, especially after 6-0 last year
Was there not some attack post Sindy and you denied Pakistani involvement there? Specifically stated no Pakistan involvementWell why don't you orchestrate another terrorist attack in India, you will discover both the reality of 6-0 and your defense pact.
You don't understand the islamic world at all.
Even your own neighborhood actually
Iran has effectively freed Saudi up, from excessive usa Influence. The Saudis allowed it to play out, they have their justification on what USA defence umbrella means, did you forget china brokered agreement not long ago. Well the Mecca pact brings it all a bit closer together, with Iran Saudi china.
Saudi has been very interested in kaan and will now invest, further
Iran has vowed to help turkey, just now
It's India and Israel. That's why you are worried.
Its happening in front of you, keep trying to play spoiler....
InshaAllah, nothing better to see jeets scurrying aroundWell why don't you orchestrate another terrorist attack in India