Bangladesh plans $2.2b purchase of 20 Chinese J-10 fighter jets

Any idiot can see they have already done that

No. What people are seeing is strategic silence.
Neither here nor there.

I know this will come as a surptise to you but smart people prioritize their interests above hot air. There is jo grand coalition out there to prove this or that dude right. Overtly or covertly theyll do what works for them.

Better you accept this else you will eventually call BD traitors like youre doing afghans right now....and iranians in a few months.
 
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Did China’s J-10CE, Which Defeated the Eurofighter in Exercises, Expose a New Air Combat Paradigm Where Advanced Integration Determines Victory?​

Jun 5, 2026 08:49

China’s J-10CE fighter achieved a clean sweep against the Eurofighter Typhoon in simulated engagements

Europe’s delayed radar modernization and vulnerabilities in network-centric warfare exposed.

Drones emerging as a decisive element of advanced air combat, with the United States and China holding a clear advantage over Europe

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The Eurofighter Typhoon, a cornerstone of North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) airpower, suffered a decisive defeat to a Chinese-built fighter during a multinational exercise in the Middle East. Pakistan Air Force-operated J-10CE fighters reportedly outperformed the Eurofighter Typhoon across both beyond-visual-range engagements and close-in maneuvering combat. Analysts say the outcome highlights widening differences in competitiveness across key next-generation air combat technologies, including radar systems, electronic warfare, data links, and drones.

Chinese Fighter Capabilities Demonstrated Across Multiple Fronts

According to reporting on June 4 (local time) by prominent Czech military analyst Jiří Vojáček and defense data tracking by China Central Television (CCTV), J-10CE fighters from the Pakistan Air Force’s No. 15 Squadron conducted nine simulated engagements against Eurofighter Typhoons during the multinational “Zilzal-II” air exercise held in Qatar in 2024, winning every encounter. The Pakistan Air Force reportedly secured a 4-0 sweep in beyond-visual-range (BVR) gauntlet rounds conducted outside radar detection ranges and also dominated close-range dogfights that tested maneuverability and thrust-control performance.

The J-10CE is the export version of the Chengdu Aircraft Design Institute’s multirole J-10C fighter. It is equipped with an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar and can deploy air-to-air missiles. The Eurofighter Typhoon, which participated in the exercises, was jointly developed by the United Kingdom, Germany, Italy, and Spain during the 1980s and has served as a core NATO air asset since entering operational service across Europe in 2007. The exercise results are being interpreted as more than a simple win-loss record, signaling that China’s aerospace industry is rapidly narrowing the technological gap with Western competitors.

The competitiveness of Chinese fighter aircraft has also been demonstrated beyond training scenarios. Pakistan previously stated that during border clashes in the Kashmir region in May of last year, it shot down five Indian aircraft, including three French-built Rafale fighters. The aircraft reportedly employed by Pakistan during the operation was also the J-10CE. The incident marked the first confirmed air-to-air combat kill involving a Chinese fighter aircraft. Earlier this year, China’s State Administration of Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense (SASTIND) formally recognized the achievement in its “Top 10 Achievements of China’s Defense Industry in 2025,” stating that the J-10CE had “shot down multiple enemy aircraft in actual combat conditions.” The U.S. Department of Defense is also reported to have independently verified aspects of the incident.

Weaknesses in European Weapons Systems

Among defense experts, the exercise outcome is increasingly viewed as evidence of limitations within Europe’s weapons ecosystem. One of the key concerns is Europe’s inability to maintain a decisive advantage in radar technology, a critical determinant of success in modern air combat. While the J-10CE’s advanced AESA radar enables simultaneous detection and tracking of multiple targets, some Eurofighter Typhoons remain equipped with older mechanically scanned radar systems depending on the operator and production batch. Efforts to integrate the next-generation Captor-E AESA radar have also progressed more slowly than anticipated.

Analysts further argue that the engagements underscore the growing importance of Network-Centric Warfare, where sensors, data links, electronic warfare systems, and missiles operate as an integrated combat architecture. In contemporary air combat, the ability to detect adversaries first, share information in real time, and conduct long-range preemptive strikes has become increasingly decisive. Information gathered by airborne early warning aircraft or ground-based radar systems can be transmitted via data links to fighter aircraft, which then launch missiles based on that targeting data. Throughout the process, electronic warfare systems disrupt enemy radar and communications networks, while interconnected platforms continuously update target information to improve strike accuracy.

Europe has previously revealed vulnerabilities in this domain against China. Last year, a drone masquerading as a Royal Air Force Eurofighter Typhoon was detected conducting low-altitude maneuvers near Hainan Island in the South China Sea. At the time, however, no British fighters could have been operating in the area, and no British aircraft carrier was deployed near either the East China Sea or the South China Sea. China reportedly used electronic intelligence aircraft to collect the ADS-B signal characteristics of Western fighters and replicated them on long-range reconnaissance drones such as the Wing Loong-2. Such tactics can confuse an adversary’s air and maritime surveillance networks, reducing the effectiveness of air defense responses.

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A Modern Battlefield Dominated by Advanced Technology

The integration of unmanned technologies into air combat is also viewed as a significant European weakness. Development of drones, artificial intelligence (AI), and manned-unmanned teaming systems has progressed more slowly than in several major competitor nations. Germany, France, the United Kingdom, and Italy are each pursuing next-generation fighter and unmanned aircraft programs, yet practical development timelines have been delayed by complex industrial and political interests. Europe’s flagship future combat initiatives—the Future Combat Air System (FCAS) and the Global Combat Air Programme (GCAP), both centered on manned-unmanned teaming concepts—are not expected to enter operational service until the latter half of the 2030s.

The United States, by contrast, has invested heavily for years in unmanned combat aircraft and Collaborative Combat Aircraft (CCA) programs to secure the core capabilities required for next-generation air warfare. The concept involves deploying multiple AI-enabled unmanned aircraft alongside F-35 fighters and the future Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) platform to perform reconnaissance, electronic warfare, missile carriage, and air defense suppression missions. China is also accelerating development of the GJ-11 stealth drone and a range of attack-oriented unmanned systems while rapidly advancing AI-enabled autonomous flight technologies, data-link capabilities, and electronic warfare expertise. Beijing is simultaneously placing greater emphasis on building integrated manned-unmanned combat architectures.

The strategic importance of these advanced air combat capabilities has been demonstrated repeatedly in recent years through both the war in Ukraine and conflicts across the Middle East. Possession of expensive strategic assets such as fighter aircraft, tanks, and aircraft carriers no longer guarantees battlefield superiority in the absence of advanced defensive and countermeasure systems. Against this backdrop, the criteria governing fighter aircraft development are changing rapidly. In the past, performance improvements centered on successive generations of platforms. Today, overall competitiveness is increasingly determined by how effectively advanced technologies are integrated, often outweighing traditional metrics such as maneuverability or engine performance.

 
Man, I really hope Bd get something quickly because right now, Bd gets no resepect in the neighborhood.

don't lose hope. When the time comes things move fast and shocks everyone.
BD is already on its natural allignment and course-correction. When the time comes it will be on the correct side of where it needs to be along with its brotherly islamic nations. inshAllah
 
Pakistan may be getting tired of BD’s Chutiapa and could leave us high and dry. I see they’re showing less enthusiasm in BD affairs nowadays, and I don’t blame them.

It’s been more than two years yet no major defence deal has been signed with Pakistan. How long does it take to finalize the agreement? Either sign the deal or don’t waste their time.

Bd can no loger pass the blame on Hasina or Bal.

big deals on the agenda are with China, Turkey, Italy and USA. Pakistan might get a small portion with modernization of Machine tools factory or BOF. The engagement with Pakistan is more on the training and educational side.

But the priority is BAF MRCA, attack helicopter, long range radars, MRSAM.

And army's local communication system production initiative through joint venture.
 
the China-Myanmar-Bangladesh Economic Corridor

Does this new term make many Bangladeshi friends uncomfortable?

My previous expectation was that Bangladesh would not receive J-10CE fighter jets in the near future. It seems this process will take even longer.
Ccp is rich. China can provide the funds. The question is if BD can sustain the cost and pay back the loans? And even if BD can’t pay back, China can write off without dropping a tear.
 
Ccp is rich. China can provide the funds. The question is if BD can sustain the cost and pay back the loans? And even if BD can’t pay back, China can write off without dropping a tear.
“There are some people who say that Chinese products are competitive mainly because the Chinese government’s subsidies,” Chinese premier Li Qiang said in his speech. “That’s not true. The Chinese government is not that wealthy.

 
“There are some people who say that Chinese products are competitive mainly because the Chinese government’s subsidies,” Chinese premier Li Qiang said in his speech. “That’s not true. The Chinese government is not that wealthy.

They say that because they ask why Chinese EVs in Europe cost 2x or 3x more than in China same models? How is that possible? China has state capitalism.
 
No. What people are seeing is strategic silence.
Neither here nor there.

I know this will come as a surptise to you but smart people prioritize their interests above hot air. There is jo grand coalition out there to prove this or that dude right. Overtly or covertly theyll do what works for them.

Better you accept this else you will eventually call BD traitors like youre doing afghans right now....and iranians in a few months.

Yup, "strategic silence" you do spout some nonsene on here. Havbe you seen the high level diplmatic and military engagement BD is now having with Pak and China?> Have you seen the statements about India by BD leaders?

Please, dont come on here and convince us Black is white. You look more foolish.

BD now aligning with China and Pak. Unsure if you manage to read anything non Modi media but give it a try
 
Yup, "strategic silence" you do spout some nonsene on here. Havbe you seen the high level diplmatic and military engagement BD is now having with Pak and China?> Have you seen the statements about India by BD leaders?

Please, dont come on here and convince us Black is white. You look more foolish.

BD now aligning with China and Pak. Unsure if you manage to read anything non Modi media but give it a try

I have made 4 or 5 posts to this effect on this thread. Total number of BD members rushing to declare iron brothrr higher than ocean deeper than himalaya friendship with pakistan against kaafir india- zeeeroo. Number of pakistanis jumping up and down- alll.
Hell they didnt even push back when i said it was complex, sometimes ok, sometimes problematic relationship.__'Strategic silence'


You know why . Its called working brain. They will do what works for them. Sopporting or pushing back india will be depending on situation--- not to prove jinnah right or wrong. You ju,mped up and down on sri lanka till they dumped you. Keep going on like this and BD woll come up soon too as 'traitorous'.
 
I have made 4 or 5 posts to this effect on this thread. Total number of BD members rushing to declare iron brothrr higher than ocean deeper than himalaya friendship with pakistan against kaafir india- zeeeroo. Number of pakistanis jumping up and down- alll.
Hell they didnt even push back when i said it was complex, sometimes ok, sometimes problematic relationship.__'Strategic silence'


You know why . Its called working brain. They will do what works for them. Sopporting or pushing back india will be depending on situation--- not to prove jinnah right or wrong. You ju,mped up and down on sri lanka till they dumped you. Keep going on like this and BD woll come up soon too as 'traitorous'.

You posting on a forum and gauging global diplomatic relationships off the back of anonymous posters replying or not, tragically, is not a measure of anything.

If that is why you judge things, it really does not surprised me you are possibly one of the thickest people on this website, and you have some serious competition in that regard.

Below are some slightly more, ahem, concrete facts.







Time for you to keep quiet now and stop derailing. It was a pleasure schooling you you
 
Man, I really hope Bd get something quickly because right now, Bd gets no resepect in the neighborhood.
Yes, I feel the same.

Bangladesh is a big country with around 167 million people, yet it's relevance is at the same level as Bhutan due to its geographical size and also Bangladesh hardly ever participating in any global events.

Bangladesh could've and can still strongly support Iran diplomatically in the current situation, and let itself known to the world. It has nothing to lose. At least Indians would stop thinking Bangladesh is alone and some walkover.
 
big deals on the agenda are with China, Turkey, Italy and USA. Pakistan might get a small portion with modernization of Machine tools factory or BOF. The engagement with Pakistan is more on the training and educational side.

But the priority is BAF MRCA, attack helicopter, long range radars, MRSAM.

And army's local communication system production initiative through joint venture.

I have spent enough time with Pakistanis to understand their psychology. If they feel disrespected, they may withdraw or offer minimal support unless it is a coordinated decision.

Pakistan is our closest Islamic brother nation. In my opinion, we should prioritize our security partnership with them because they are likely to be the first to come to our aid in a time of need.
 
Ccp is rich. China can provide the funds. The question is if BD can sustain the cost and pay back the loans? And even if BD can’t pay back, China can write off without dropping a tear.
Sometimes, keeping quiet is a good choice.

It is precisely because of Vietnam's betrayal that China has tightened its foreign aid policy today.
They say that because they ask why Chinese EVs in Europe cost 2x or 3x more than in China same models? How is that possible? China has state capitalism.
Despite your constant claims of being an engineer and maintaining neutrality, you consistently slander China on various occasions.

It's true that Chinese electric vehicles are significantly more expensive in Europe than in China. However, the difference doesn't go into the pockets of these Chinese companies.

1. European governments impose high tariffs and various administrative fees on Chinese electric vehicles.

2. Europe imposes minimum selling price restrictions on Chinese electric vehicles. This means that the price of Chinese electric vehicles cannot be too low. Even the cheapest Chinese electric vehicles are forced to be sold at higher prices in the European market. The excess profits are obtained by local dealers in the European market.

If Europe allowed Chinese electric vehicles to enter the European market freely with zero tariffs, the entire European automotive industry would be instantly destroyed.

These are standard regional economic management strategies. Volkswagen used the same strategy in the Chinese market. What was considered extremely cheap in Europe became a luxury car in China.

So, if you don't understand this, I suggest you do some research before participating.
 

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