Bangladesh Socio-Political Crisis 2024 and onwards

[BananaRepublic]

All your posts were deleted for valid reasons. You can cite WB, IMF and still your post could end up as a troll post.

Again, as was advised to you numerous times in the past, if you have objections with a post deletion, take it up to GHQ.

The sheer volume of your censorship has flooded GHQ.

I have waited weeks to get a remedy.

Ofcourse you know this full well and you use it as a disruptive tactic.

Basically, anything that hurts your feeling is a troll post. Whilst your buddies constantly post abuse and none of them get banned or even speed limited.

Anyway, enough for today!

 

[LeonBlack08]

The sheer volume of your censorship has flooded GHQ.

I have waited weeks to get a remedy.

Ofcourse you know this full well and you use it as a disruptive tactic.

Basically, anything that hurts your feeling is a troll post. Whilst your buddies constantly post abuse and none of them get banned or even speed limited.

Anyway, enough for today!

Perhaps the fact that you waited for weeks and didn't get a remedy means your posts were reviewed by Admins and they adjudicated that they were deleted for valid reasons.

Have that thought ever crossed your mind? Of course not, that can never be the case right? How could you ever be wrong! It's always everyone else's fault.

 

[Musings]

Here is a classic example of your bias that I have raised with @Musings.

It’s ok for you and your buddies to tag laughing emojis at my posts.

But your feelings are hurt when I do the same!

Your posts were deleted for valid reasons. You are now allowing this thread to be derailed. No more posts or I will take action. End it now or it will be more than emoji posting privileges that will be removed.
Stick to the topic

 

[uksyl]

If my emoji button wasn’t banned by the Bangladeshi moderators - I would give a massive thumbs up to you

Try and express your views without being antagonistic. I don't think moderators here can ban differing views or the "content" of what a poster says but more how they conduct themselves, i.e. members are required to be civil. Even moderators here are accountable to the senior mods/administrators.

 

[LeonBlack08]

Everyone - back to topic now. No more discussion on moderator actions. If you derail the thread, your post will be deleted. If you have issues with moderator actions - raise it up in GHQ.

 

[Al-Zakir]

As long as no rules are broken - an open and articulate discussion should be welcomed bro and we can always counter the narrative

They are cult and harmful to Bd. It took us 53 years but finally we disposed of that rotten pagan entity.

They are now playing victim card and trying to reenter in Bd politics.

 

[Musings]

They are cult and harmful to Bd. It took us 53 years but finally we disposed of that rotten pagan entity.

They are now playing victim card and trying to reenter in Bd politics.

That’s fine bro. If they have an opinion and NOT breaking forum rules - then let them debate and we can have an opportunity to show why they are wrong.

 

[BananaRepublic]

They are cult and harmful to Bd. It took us 53 years but finally we disposed of that rotten pagan entity.

They are now playing victim card and trying to reenter in Bd politics.

Who is a “cult and harmful to Bd” will be decided by Bangladeshis via an election.

It shall not be decided on PDF.

PDF people have no mandate to speak for the people - that’s the job of democratically elected representatives.

Each PDF poster speaks for themselves and no one else.

 

[MNZGamerX]

Thank you @Musings bhai

Just to clarfiy to other readers.

Bangladesh is a country of over 170 million people and there is a wide variety of opinions on many things just as in Pakistan.

In Pakistan you will have people that support PTI, PMN-L, the PPP and others and if a partisan PML-N mod were to seize control of a sub-forum and say his views are the "will of the Pakistani people" and everyone else is a traitor that would not be representative of the reality of Pakistan and would stifle the exchange of ideas.

No one here (and one moderator in particular actually does) can say that something " is the will of the Bangladeshi people", (when actually its his and his party's ideology) unless they ask all 170 million people in Bangladesh, and the only way to do something like that is an election.

As long as members are polite and not abusive they should be able to express political views divergent to that of the two moderators here.

@UKBengali @BananaRepublic @Prince_ @mb444 @MNZGamerX

I do agree that there should be open debate on Bangladesh and that no one should be impugned for expressing a view. I have been rebuked several times since August 2024 for expressing certain views but which months later many others now share.

 

[BananaRepublic]

I do agree that there should be open debate on Bangladesh and that no one should be impugned for expressing a view. I have been rebuked several times since August 2024 for expressing certain views but which months later many others now share.

I disagree with most of your opinions but you are a principled and good faith actor.

That’s how it should be.

And am sorry for the gruesome experience you went through under Hasina for voicing a counter opinion.

Unfortunately, Bangladeshis are partisan and intolerable of plurality - which reflects in their leaders.

I don’t blame the two begums - they are just the avatars of the masses.

If you want good leaders - try being good yourself.

Look at even USA - they have got a leader they deserve.

 

[MNZGamerX]

I disagree with most of your opinions but you are a principled and good faith actor.

That’s how it should be.

And am sorry for the gruesome experience you went through under Hasina for voicing a counter opinion.

Unfortunately, Bangladeshis are partisan and intolerable of plurality - which reflects in their leaders.

I don’t blame the two begums - they are just the avatars of the masses.

If you want good leaders - try being good yourself.

Look at even USA - they have got a leader they deserve.

Thank you for your remarks. I can at least truthfully say that I don't have an agenda unlike many commentators on Bangladesh such as Pinaki, Elias and Sami or even many now in the Interim Government or even those on the other side such as the Shabaghis.

So there are times that different factions may agree with me and on others fiercely oppose me but the difference is I am not paid to have a particular view and do not carry anyone else's candle. While I have strong views on India and the Awami League I also see great danger ahead for Bangladesh in blindly following an American agenda and that has been my view since 2024 and this has been confirmed by the composition of the Interim Government many of whom I have known personally for at least 2 decades.

When I was facing problems with the Hasina regime I had approached many of those who are now Advisors or appointed officials but not a single one came forward to assist me but suddenly they have become vehement anti-Indians, anti-Awami Leaguers and anti-Mujib. I find this very strange and expressed this view but got heavily criticized for it.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Thank you for your remarks. I can at least truthfully say that I don't have an agenda unlike many commentators on Bangladesh such as Pinaki, Elias and Sami or even many now in the Interim Government or even those on the other side such as the Shabaghis.

So there are times that different factions may agree with me and on others fiercely oppose me but the difference is I am not paid to have a particular view and do not carry anyone else's candle. While I have strong views on India and the Awami League I also see great danger ahead for Bangladesh in blindly following an American agenda and that has been my view since 2024 and this has been confirmed by the composition of the Interim Government many of whom I have known personally for at least 2 decades.

When I was facing problems with the Hasina regime I had approached many of those who are now Advisors or appointed officials but not a single one came forward to assist me but suddenly they have become vehement anti-Indians, anti-Awami Leaguers and anti-Mujib. I find this very strange and expressed this view but got heavily criticized for it.

People like you will always face harassment because you hold an independent and nuanced view.

You have no tribe to protect you.

@UKBengali and I have always maintained that Hasina went too far with India. That is bound to enrage a majority of Bangladeshis.

Conversely, you have the unhinged India phobes on the other side. Make up all kinds of conspiracy theories - who are even more dangerous!

We also opposed the ridiculous quota system.

But then you have the hypocrites who opposed it for “children of liberation fighters” now advocating it for the “students”.

And it’s ok to say Mujib was the catalyst for independence but was an incompetent administrator.

Guess what he is in great company with the likes of Nelson Mandela, Nehru, America’s founding fathers with their slaves.

It’s an illustrious list of Independence leaders - who were absolute pants at running a country!!!

Alas! That kind of opinion gets you unhinged hatred from both sides!!!

 

[uksyl]

I do agree that there should be open debate on Bangladesh and that no one should be impugned for expressing a view. I have been rebuked several times since August 2024 for expressing certain views but which months later many others now share.

MBI Munshi bhai, I am glad you are on this forum and you are an asset to this forum. I am aware of your work regarding the CHT and also of course the now famous 'India Doctrine' and no one can tag you (as some people here do quite readily) as 'Awami League' if your views are different to theirs. We are lucky to have you here along with having the likes of @mb444 who is also very well-connected and clued up about Bangladesh.

 

[uksyl]

People like you will always face harassment because you hold an independent and nuanced view.

You have no tribe to protect you.

@UKBengali and I have always maintained that Hasina went too far with India. That is bound to enrage a majority of Bangladeshis.

Conversely, you have the unhinged India phobes on the other side. Make up all kinds of conspiracy theories - who are even more dangerous!

We also opposed the ridiculous quota system.

But then you have the hypocrites who opposed it for “children of liberation fighters” now advocating it for the “students”.

And it’s ok to say Mujib was the catalyst for independence but was an incompetent administrator.

Guess what he is in great company with the likes of Nelson Mandela, Nehru, America’s founding fathers with their slaves.

It’s an illustrious list of Independence leaders - who were absolute pants at running a country!!!

Alas! That kind of opinion gets you unhinged hatred from both sides!!!

You made some good points. For everyone else including the likes of @SoulSpokesman

In my humble opinion the reason for the revolution was that it was an explosion and there had been long simmering anger. However it was an explosion caused fundamentally by the previous government's inability to deliver economically. Hasina and the Awami League cadres across the country had been brutal from the start but there was economic development, but with a massive population and new entrants into the job market each year and with a limited number of jobs and economic resources with Awami-league affiliated "veterans' relatives" and others if not monopolising things, were definitely prioritised. If Bangladesh was economically like Malaysia and Hasina was brutal, I don't think the revolution would have happened.

There was widespread support for it. I know as a Bangladeshi as even people in my wider family who are generally apolitical changed their social media profile pics or avatars to the one supporting the revolution. However I am not going to the opposite extreme and start glorifying the revolution and wax lyrical about it. For me it's similar to the removal of Ershad by both Hasina and Khaleda, which cannot be seen as year zero or the beginning of modern Bangladesh either but just another milestone in our history.

In terms of relations with India, Bangladesh has no choice but to maintain positive relations with our western neighbour which now has the 5th biggest economy in the world and which we can do a lot of business with to help us in or mutual goals of poverty alleviation and economic development.

 

[BananaRepublic]

MBI Munshi bhai, I am glad you are on this forum and you are an asset to this forum. I am aware of your work regarding the CHT and also of course the now famous 'India Doctrine' and no one can tag you (as some people here do quite readily) as 'Awami League' if your views are different to theirs. We are lucky to have you here along with having the likes of @mb444 who is also very well-connected and clued up about Bangladesh.

Poor guy suffered under Hasina.

And no respite even now!!!

Too many people in BD are cultish-ly aligned to the two main factions.

Definition of cultish behaviour is when you see no wrong or criticise your faction.

You can support someone but also clearly layout their deficiencies - or even tolerate criticisms.

Too many people in BD are hooked on censorship.

Unless BD people stop making a “list of things not to discuss” - classic cultish behaviour - there will be no democracy in BD.

Hasina is gone. Khaleda is extremely frail.

You can no longer blame the two begums.

Time to grow up and learn to tolerate each other!