'Be prepared for unexpected': Rajnath Singh tells Armed forces 'keep eye on happenings in neighbouring countries' (Bangladesh)

[AjayGhatak]

This is getting traction in Bangladesh as well.

Former BD Army Chief posted the following in his social media account. He is suggesting mass national conscription as a response option to prepare for any misadventure from India. General Iqbal Karim was known to be very vocal despite serving as COAS during Hasina reign and was openly critical of BAL loyalists in the army. Recently, during the student revolution, he openly joined hands with students.

My guess is that most likely he is going to run for office through BNP or another party.

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Very, very interesting... this now looks something totally different.

Is this real? Any post / link?

 

[LeonBlack08]

Very, very interesting... this now looks something totally different.

Is this real? Any post / link?

He doesn't have a verified profile but the profile is legit. There are many verified profiles of former Army officers following and actively engaging in his posts.

Iqbal Karim Ikb

ইন্ডিয়ার প্রতিরক্ষামন্ত্রী রাজনাথ সিং দেশটির সশস্ত্র বাহিনীকে বাংলাদেশের পরিস্থিতি পর্যবেক্ষণ করতে নির্দেশ দিয়েছেন। একইসঙ্গে যেকোনো অপ্রত্যাশিত পরিস্থিতি মোকাবিলায় প্রস্তুত থাকতে বলেছেন। আমাদের...

www.facebook.com

 

[itsanufy]

No it could not have - that was the whole legitimacy of the invasion that allowed support. This was 1971 not 1871.

India could have easily extended some 4-5 KM of extra land in the chicken neck area in the name of chitmahal corridor. This was suggested by Army and administration but rejected by Mrs. Gandhi.
To get detail about chitmahal please read

India–Bangladesh enclaves - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[itsanufy]

NOTHING to do with normal people, including normal Indians.

All this is to create a media buzz, and distract public attention from their giving away 65 cantonments to - aha, guess who?

Sir, I don't see any wrong here. Past we have seen BD was hot bed for militant activity in N.E.

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

Why does India have so many problems with most of its neighbors?

Indira Gandhi once said
You cannot shake Hands with a CLENCHED FIST

India has realised that Being Nice doesn't always yield Positive Results

People start taking undue advantage of your large heartedness

What did we get by the So called
Uninterrupted Dialogue and People to People relationship with Pakistan

Unfortunately for some Indian QUISLINGS ,their ideology and Agenda Is above National Interest

 

[itsanufy]

This is getting traction in Bangladesh as well.

Former BD Army Chief posted the following in his social media account. He is suggesting mass national conscription as a response option to prepare for any misadventure from India. General Iqbal Karim was known to be very vocal despite serving as COAS during Hasina reign and was openly critical of BAL loyalists in the army. Recently, during the student revolution, he openly joined hands with students.

My guess is that most likely he is going to run for office through BNP or another party.

View attachment 63492And he didn't mentioned other countries and conflict which was included in Rajnath's speech.

And he deliberately omitted the other countries and conflicts Rajnath mentioned.

 

[itsanufy]

Indira Gandhi once said
You cannot shake Hands with a CLENCHED FIST

India has realised that Being Nice doesn't always yield Positive Results

People start taking undue advantage of your large heartedness

What did we get by the So called
Uninterrupted Dialogue and People to People relationship with Pakistan

Unfortunately for some Indian QUISLINGS ,their ideology and Agenda Is above National Interest

As if Pakistan are in best in term with all her neighbours.
China is vary good friend as Pakistan has submitted some portion of her territory to her. If she gives POK to India we can become friends with bigger than mountain and deeper than sea.

Same for BD, Myanmar is a bigger enemy to BD than India.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Sir, I don't see any wrong here. Past we have seen BD was hot bed for militant activity in N.E.

Of course you don't. The Chief of Naval Staff is busy regulating the use of pajamas on Mess Nights, so you are in good company.

As for the hotbed for militant activity, other than ULFA members taking refuge in Dhaka, what else happened?

 

[Joe Shearer]

And he deliberately omitted the other countries and conflicts Rajnath mentioned.

What an idiot! He should have mentioned all of them.

 

[Sharma Ji]

We know a veiled threat when we see one.

Oh please, don't flatter yourself.

BD does NOT figure in our security calculus in the way you are making it out to be

India would, however, like to see a politically stable BD, that is about all, really.

 

[itsanufy]

Of course you don't. The Chief of Naval Staff is busy regulating the use of pajamas on Mess Nights, so you are in good company.

As for the hotbed for militant activity, other than ULFA members taking refuge in Dhaka, what else happened?

You are playing it down.

ULFA was the biggest militant organization in N.E. and it was because of active support/blind eye of BD administration towards it.

You know about 2004 arms and ammunition haul in Chittagong where 10-Truck Arms and Ammunition for ULFA and other militant organization of N.E. were caught. 27,020 grenades; 840 rocket launchers, 300 rockets, 2,000 grenade launching tubes; 6,392 magazines; and 1,140,520 bullets. All accused (by the interim govt) were linked to BNP.
Chiefs of Alfa and other major caders were staying in this highly secure building in dacca and operating from there.
And we don't know how many incidents like this went unnoticed.


Then National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) - BDR raided and captured 6 of them from NLFT camp was located near Karisapunji village in the Habiganj district. The Indian list stated that the NLFT had a transit camp at Thakurgaon under Chunarughat Police Station in the Habiganj District of Bangladesh. Again, the very fact that Dhaka did not deny the raid and subsequent capture of six NLFT cadres goes against its official position that there are neither camps nor any Indian insurgent cadres operating from Bangladeshi territory.

All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF) - chief' Ranjit Debbarma's residence in Dhaka was raided by BDR. Media reports said five ATTF cadres were killed in that attack and eight others, including Debbarma, were wounded.

The Harkat-ul-Jihad-al Islami Bangladesh (HuJI-B) - HuJI-B aims to establish Islamic Hukumat (rule) in Bangladesh by waging war and killing progressive intellectuals. It draws inspiration from bin Laden and the erstwhile Taliban regime of Afghanistan. At one point of time, the groups issued a slogan, Amra Sobai Hobo Taliban, Bangla Hobe Afghanistan (We will all become Taliban and we will turn Bangladesh into Afghanistan). HuJI-B recruits are indoctrinated in the mould of radical Islam. The HuJI-B is also linked to another Islamist extremist outfit, the Asif Reza Commando Force (ARCF) that had claimed responsibility for the January 22, 2002-attack on the American Center in Kolkata, the capital of West Bengal.

IK Songbijit faction of National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB-S) - Govinda Basumatary, the arrested general secretary, was released to negotiate with the cadres in BD.

The Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam (MULTA) was founded sometime in the year 1996. MULTA is one among the approximately 14 Islamist terrorist outfits reportedly operating in the State of Assam. MULTA and the Muslim United Liberation Front of Assam (MULFA) are also said to be part of the All Muslim United Liberation Forum of Assam (AMULFA). AMULFA was reportedly founded to coordinate the subversive activities of Islamist terrorist elements in the Northeast region of India.
According to intelligence sources, the ISI had backed the formation of the AMULFA, of which MULTA and MULFA are members. The sources also claim that the ISI is even providing training to these two outfits in the Syleth district of Bangladesh under the command of one Rustom Ali, who is said to be a former Pakistani Army officer. Sources further claim that the AMULFA would finally be linked with the United Liberation Front of Seven Sisters (ULFSS), in ISI’s larger plan to destabilise the Northeast region.

And many more at least 5 more which had BD active help.

It is the articulated views of Prime Minister Khaleda Zia's BNP on insurgent groups from Assam, for instance, that increases the level of concern in India. As Opposition leader in May 1998, within six months of Chetia's arrest, Zia had told this writer during an interview at the BNP headquarters in Dhaka that her party would like to regard the ULFA cadres as ‘freedom fighters' just as the Mukti Bahini were freedom fighters. She had then also expressed her gratitude to the people of Assam and Meghalaya for sheltering the Mukti Bahini freedom fighters, indirectly implying that there was nothing wrong in some ULFA men taking shelter inside Bangladesh.

 

[Joe Shearer]

You know about 2004 arms and ammunition haul in Chittagong where 10-Truck Arms and Ammunition for ULFA and other militant organization of N.E. were caught. 27,020 grenades; 840 rocket launchers, 300 rockets, 2,000 grenade launching tubes; 6,392 magazines; and 1,140,520 bullets.

I may reproduce my detailed response in another forum, where I had to point out that the detection was done by the BD authorities, at the time that the BNP was in office, arrests were made (in 2004) by those authorities, that only after the BNP government changed were confessions and accusations put around, two years after the BNP left office, and by one out of 45 arrested people.

This particular chargesheet and indictment must be one of the silliest framed, and judged.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Then National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT) - BDR raided and captured 6 of them from NLFT camp was located near Karisapunji village in the Habiganj district. The Indian list stated that the NLFT had a transit camp at Thakurgaon under Chunarughat Police Station in the Habiganj District of Bangladesh. Again, the very fact that Dhaka did not deny the raid and subsequent capture of six NLFT cadres goes against its official position that there are neither camps nor any Indian insurgent cadres operating from Bangladeshi territory.

Amazing to read that the action taken to arrest the insurgents is compromised, according to you, by the failure of the BD government to deny the raid or the capture of these insurgents. So the action is worthless, the failure to loudly proclaim its failure to keep out anti-India elements is a greater matter.

Seriously?

chief' Ranjit Debbarma's residence in Dhaka was raided by BDR. Media reports said five ATTF cadres were killed in that attack and eight others, including Debbarma, were wounded.

Fabulous. So whatever action the BD authorities might take, to uproot any traces on its soil of anti-India insurgency, they continue to be culpable, since their earlier denials prove that they were all along acting in good faith.

The Harkat-ul-Jihad-al Islami Bangladesh (HuJI-B) - HuJI-B aims to establish Islamic Hukumat (rule) in Bangladesh by waging war and killing progressive intellectuals. It draws inspiration from bin Laden and the erstwhile Taliban regime of Afghanistan. At one point of time, the groups issued a slogan, Amra Sobai Hobo Taliban, Bangla Hobe Afghanistan (We will all become Taliban and we will turn Bangladesh into Afghanistan). HuJI-B recruits are indoctrinated in the mould of radical Islam. The HuJI-B is also linked to another Islamist extremist outfit, the Asif Reza Commando Force (ARCF) that had claimed responsibility for the January 22, 2002-attack on the American Center in Kolkata, the capital of West Bengal.

So now we have an improvement on the theme. Now, it is no longer Indian origin insurgents discovered in BD territory, it is Bangladesh origin insurgents against the Bangladesh government that prove that the Bangladesh government was hostile to India.

By that logic, every insurgent movement in India against state governments or the central government is proof that India sponsors terrorism. Against itself? Yes, against herself.

The Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam (MULTA) was founded sometime in the year 1996. MULTA is one among the approximately 14 Islamist terrorist outfits reportedly operating in the State of Assam. MULTA and the Muslim United Liberation Front of Assam (MULFA) are also said to be part of the All Muslim United Liberation Forum of Assam (AMULFA). AMULFA was reportedly founded to coordinate the subversive activities of Islamist terrorist elements in the Northeast region of India.
According to intelligence sources, the ISI had backed the formation of the AMULFA, of which MULTA and MULFA are members. The sources also claim that the ISI is even providing training to these two outfits in the Syleth district of Bangladesh under the command of one Rustom Ali, who is said to be a former Pakistani Army officer. Sources further claim that the AMULFA would finally be linked with the United Liberation Front of Seven Sisters (ULFSS), in ISI’s larger plan to destabilise the Northeast region.

And many more at least 5 more which had BD active help.

According to whom? Every one of these instances is reported by Indian intelligence, and unsupported by any corroborating evidence from Bangladesh, even during the period of maximum domination of the Awami League, supposedly a sharply contrasting party to the BNP.

It makes painful reading to go through these wild accusations.

It is the articulated views of Prime Minister Khaleda Zia's BNP on insurgent groups from Assam, for instance, that increases the level of concern in India. As Opposition leader in May 1998, within six months of Chetia's arrest, Zia had told this writer during an interview at the BNP headquarters in Dhaka that her party would like to regard the ULFA cadres as ‘freedom fighters' just as the Mukti Bahini were freedom fighters. She had then also expressed her gratitude to the people of Assam and Meghalaya for sheltering the Mukti Bahini freedom fighters, indirectly implying that there was nothing wrong in some ULFA men taking shelter inside Bangladesh.

Quoting a single journalist's very one-sided report surely must seem flimsy even to so bitter a critic as you. Perhaps, however, from your point of view, these are equal to signed pleas of guilt by the shadowy accused.

To what extent are we prepared to go to manufacture and to promote these conspiracy theories?

 

[Joe Shearer]

India could have easily extended some 4-5 KM of extra land in the chicken neck area in the name of chitmahal corridor. This was suggested by Army and administration but rejected by Mrs. Gandhi.
To get detail about chitmahal please read

India–Bangladesh enclaves - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This is what happens when ignorance breeds with an excess of patriotism. If you had ever been in those parts, you would have known that the Chhitmahals are tiny pieces of land, and that combining them to form a contiguous tract is a ridiculous idea.

 

[Michael Corleone]

This is from a conversation I had with M Abdul Hai (Colonel & Ex Charge d' Affaires, BD Embassy, Bhutan. Graduated from Red Stone, Huntsvile, AL,USA.)
“Our main attention should be to restore peace & stability within the country. India will never do such mistake to invade Bangladesh except making some attempt to disturb. They know the consequences. This is not 1971. I know BDR very well. An excellent & efficient force. They had some genuine demands & DG was always informing them about active consideration of their demands by the Government. But they wanted to be sure from the mouth of PM in a Darbar. I shall not bring India here. It is purely a command failure at the end of CAS for not reacting & waiting for permission, DG not giving impotance to past few days activities & enjoying in his house with his course mates where one of them was killed, CO RSU can't shirk his responsiblities for killing of so many innocent, promising & senior officers. Any revolt is subdualed in hard hand, not in the table, declaring general amensty, getting food from Pan Pacific hotel & allow killing. So PM can't avoid her responsibility for such brutal killings. India's involvement is shrouded by the actions taken by our own people. I don't like to mention about MG Shakil & how he invited this mass killings here. I served as BN Comd in Pilkhana when Ansar revolted, Commanded 4 × BN in Dinajpur as Sec Comd & also Cmdt RTC&S. These traitors destroyed proud of both Army & BDR. In case of Military actions, we could protect our honor & respect even there was more casualties. I didn't mention about other 4 criminals involved. India just want to divert our attention from restoring peace & stability. Nothing else. They have to do permutation & combination before getting into war.”

I’ve asked him a few more questions about pilkhana which would give us an insight of India’s intentions back in 2009 pilkhana incident. I’ll share with y’all soon