Can the US win a war with China? Shocking new simulation reveals what could happen if Taiwan is attacked

[j_hungary]

interesting
here I can learn chinese language.

Probably not the best place to learn Chinese here

That dude think 咪當我老親 is Vietnamese.........You are Vietnamese, you tell me......

 

[Viet]

Probably not the best place to learn Chinese here

That dude think 咪當我老親 is Vietnamese.........You are Vietnamese, you tell me......

my chinese language proficiency is very limited. it’s best I don’t comment. ha ha.
ok maybe just one comment, Chinese tongue has lots of “sh” sounds that don’t or rarely exist in Vietic.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The US doesn't have the manufacturing capability to maintain the scale of its current navy and air force.

Russia's today is their tomorrow.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Again, tell that to Baidu or that University for all I care, that is what you asked me to do, and that is what they said, I didn't come up with that name. I don't know why or how you think arguing with me on the issue will yield any result.

华北is North China in Chinese, 中北 no one knows what it means, it can mean many things but not North China in Chinese.

Thread 'Do Chinese call North China 华北 or 中北'

Dec 7, 2024

This j_hungary guy argued with me for hours saying that in Chinese , North China is 中北， and I keep telling him that we Chinese call north China 华北，he stubbornly insist that 中北 means North China.
Please help and tell him North China is 华北 or 中北

• Beijingwalker
• Replies: 4
• Forum: China & Far East

 

[Han Patriot]

Well, you said Guangdong, I said coastal cities, you want to think that far, that's you not me.

And you said 'coastal cities' too right, genius? I have already told you the major warship centers are in Yangtze, Pearl and Bohai region, so how does attacking a 'few targets' in Fujian DESTROY our 'coastal cities' mate? LOL

Crater is NOT the total size of destruction; you have no idea how cratering work.

The initial blast created a crater, then the explosion exploded outward and upward, sending both shrapnel and concussion wave toward the damaging area.

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Both shrapnel and concussion wave damage an area, one is physical trauma, and the other is seismic trauma.

Both would damage a building.

Again, if you think a 1000 pounder only damage things within 20 meters, please stand 25 meters when one exploded.

Hence my statement, how do you define 'DESTRUCTION'? What is being destroyed here? Building structure? Windows? Humans? Shrapnels are for soft target like human flesh, is it going to destroy a modern concrete building? The easiest way to measure is the damage perimeter which I have just provided the evidence form an AMERICAN site. I won't be as numb as you to stand near a 1000 pounder mate. We are talking about infrastructure destruction in a CHINESE city made of concrete and steel, not some Iraqi mud house which shockingly still had their walls standing. LOL

Blast Damage Estimation | International Ammunition Technical Guidelines

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Below is the blast calculator for a 1000 pound bomb. Note the 20m damage for 'houses' not even military grade infrastructure, human fatal distance is 18m. So the NBC link I provided is justified.






'The 1,000-pound bomb is powerful enough to destroy a house or blast a crater roughly 20 feet wide, as shown in this Raytheon video.

First of all, there are no recon sat, no positioning sat, they can do both, if you can't, that would have been an issue, because that mean you can't transmit the coordinate of something.

Wtf are you even talking about? You mean to tell me a fcking GPS sat has got a 0.5m optical recon capability? Or a Radar imaging capability? FFS, go read some basics PLEASEEEEEEE!! ARE YOU FOR REAL?

Second of all, you need a target solution to put into a sat in order to move it, it does not automatically look at the target you want to look at, you need to maneuver that satellite into a position to cover the target, how are you going to get the initial targeting information? It can either be input by a person or have the satellite pick up the target by itself. If it was A, the lag time is whatever you need to identify the target, if it was B.) the lag time is whatever your satellite pick up the target and position itself to track said target.

Satellite move in a very high speed and very predictable orbit, unless the target you are tracking is going the same direction that orbit is going, otherwise you will need to jump orbit, which mean a manual correction of course of your satellite. It's a very simple concept, your target moves south and your satellite float north, then you can't catch that target, because it goes into the opposite direction of where your satellite is going. Geostationary Satellite can eliminate this problem, BUT you will need to have the target enter your monitoring zone, otherwise it won't work.

Jesus, you know absolutely shit about how satellite work, looking it up on google make you look like an idiot by talking shit that don't make sense.

I am done talking to you if you don't even know the types of satellites and their capabilities. You have IMINT, SIGINT, GPS sats mate, all different functions with different payloads. Stop fcking copypasting shit from the internet explaining to me the basics of how a satellite orbits, you have different orbits, GEO, LEO, one is moving with the earth and one is rotating around the earth with a revisit interval.

Low Earth orbit - Wikipedia

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Geostationary orbit - Wikipedia

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Dude, you don't have real time tracking of F-22.

That video show you an unspecific time of that F-22 is flying, you lack the vector (Where that F-22 is going) to be able to track it real time. Meaning by the time that track showing a F-22, that F-22 is no longer in that same position, unless it's stationary

I just fcking showed you a video satellite imagery of a REAL TIME tracking of an F22 flying. LOLOL. if you have enough small video satellites, positioned at the right GEO orbit, you can track anything, the point is China cannot consistently track the plane for the whole duration of it's journey due to the limited view window and limited satellites, however with enough satellites linked together in a huge AI system, this can be done, proven by the Chinese SkyEye surveillance system. If you can track a moving human among hundreds of thousands of humans across millions of cameras, then you can theoretically track a plane across hundreds of satellites. Now if the object is as large as 300m x 60m moving at only 30/35 knots, with minimal (noise/other objects) and only the blue ocean, the system can first pinpoint the frame of the area with IMINT sats, then use video sats to track it consistently. If the video sats can even track a plane flying at Mach 1, the complexity to track and identify a carrier is exponentially easier. Get it?

It's like an ATC, the reason why Air Traffic Control can keep track of any aircraft in the sky is because they report back their position in their radar via squawking. Which mean you know where that target is going. Otherwise, it's like a chasing the leader, you can't play chasing the leader without the leader tell you where he/she is going, how do you know where the F-22 is going next? And what if you lost track? Again, you are not shooting the missile at that moment that F-22 is on your screen, it's a few minutes behind, because that missile need time to travel from where fire it to where the F-22 are. You need the vector of that F-22 to do that. Otherwise it will just be constantly chasing the course it was 5 minutes (or however long) ago.

My friend, we are talking about SATELLITE tracking, not ATCs. DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE? One is a plane consistently pinging their info to the air traffic controller, the moment they shut off their transponders, you have no info if the plane stops pinging. You fcking think the Chinese are gonna ping the Taiwanese ATC and tell them they are coming. FFS, do you have simple common sense.

Flight tracking - Wikipedia

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'Aircraft carry ADS-B transponders, which transmit information such as the aircraft ID, GPS position, and altitude as radio signals. These radio transmission are collected by civilian ADS-B receivers located in the vicinity of the aircraft. These ADS-B receivers are only able to collect information on flights within radio-range of their position, so the data they collect is usually sent to a central server which aggregates feeds from numerous individual receivers throughout the world.'



Do I have to spoonfeed you the basics? it feels as if i am talking to a toddler.

 

[Han Patriot]

I don't know what your room mate did or did not do, he can be playmate of the month for all I care

If you did that 2.5 years, that 2.5 years course stick, I mean, just because I change my major does not mean all the computer course does not count, they will still need to give me my diploma in computer science, granted, not the honour one I was going after.

Dude, you don't know how university works?

It sticks？Then alot of those medical and Engineering drop outs can become doctors and engineers? HAHAHAHAHAHA. They will still need to give you? Show me your diploma in IT? There is a saying in my Uni, if you can't finish Engineering, go for IT, if you can't finish IT go for business, that's for the dmb kids. LOL

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Yes, top mark my arse.

I did not get top marks in an Australian University as per my own Chinese standards, LOL, but according to the local Australian standards, they consider me a 'Distinction' Student for scoring above 75% percentile in an Engineering faculty to warrant me a scholarship. You got to ask them mate. LOL

dude, if you ship, you know wave washes up everywhere and everytime, especially when you go outside contagious zone.

Within a day? I been on a cruiser with my cousin, It's lucky if you go 5n minutes without a wave washing up on your ship when you get to international water

This is on a good day in English Channel, not even high sea.

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Yes, common sense mate.

And waves do not wash up tankers that travel across the globe from the tropics to the North Sea? Our FPSOs are designed for NORSOK standards and ABS standards, all fcking use the same paint scheme across the region. Just fcking admit your navy did some shit job painting and maintaining those ships okay, stop being defensive and cheer excessively, it makes you look pathetic

Dude, I am not the one that said, "If you are Chinese ship it's A-OK" and it appear you just answer that yourself.

Houthis won't radio ahead and as your crew to speak Chinese before they launch their missile.



I wasn't talking about Gulf War, I don't know why you want to talk about Gulf War. I been very clear that was from Iran/Iraq war.

The Houthis have info on what ship is coming and if it is Chinese flagged , even I have info, you fcking use vesselfinder. LOL. They won't attack and that's according to BBC/CNN. Maersk was even contemplating flying a Chinese flag for vessels travelling there back then, according to my uncle. Do mistakes happen? probably but if Chinese ships are still sailing while Maersk was near cancelling their routes, then somebody must have some deal right? Hey we were talking about Gulf War and you suddenly went into Iraq/Iran war. I told you blockades meant port blockades because goods especially large volume of goods can only move through designated ports with the right infrastructure to handle them, unless of course you plan to unload containers using dinghys? LOLOL

Again, this is up to individual to go, and again, you say it like MSC is not a thing, as I said MSC will charter the ship to ship to Taiwan, and I even show you the MSC website saying they will do exactly so with their civilian crew (Not to Taiwan but general merchant marine)

And now it's almost 3 years, did Ukraine go strave?

Ukraine starve? One of the largest grain exporters is starving? Gosh, common sense, how many times do I have to remind you. Ukrainians goods are not going through major Ukrainian ports but ports in Romania and shipped through land numb numb.

Here let me show you the situation today, ZERO, ZERO ships in Ukrainian ports. Get it genius?

I literally just show you a Chinese ship is being attacked and they can't really tell who own what. I mean sure, if you fly a Chinese flag and it will be A-OK, how about everyship transit thru that strait fly a Chinese flag? So did the Houthis shoot no one then?

Common sense, mate, common sense.

I literally just showed you the ship ownership changed Common sense, common sense mate. Why did a group which normally don't attack Chinese ships attack? THINK!!!

W HUANG PU, General Cargo Ship - Details and current position - IMO 9438353 - VesselFinder

Vessel W HUANG PU (IMO 9438353, MMSI 355640000) is a General Cargo Ship built in 2010 and currently sailing under the flag of Panama.

www.vesselfinder.com

NOT EVEN CHINESE FLAGGED!!!! LOL.

Lol you know jack shit about ship like you know jack shit about AI Programming (again, Hack is a Aussie Programming Slang)

If you have to ask, you don't belong here.

I am not sure what is your age, we don't fcking use HACK in Melbourne in my Uni circles those days. LOLOL. Well I did write a thesis on evolutionary algorithm and programmed it, so I guess I am better than an IT drop out? LOLOL

I said this is not how guidance work, I didn't say DF-21 is laser guidance. And do you know what is active radar??

GPS Nav Guide Mode only bring you to the general area. Again, by the time your missile got there, your target may no longer be there.

If that is the case, you can't work with active radar, because you can't ping your target.

This is ISTAR 101, which I doubt you know anything about.

My friend how do you think trajectory correction works? LOL. Whether it can hit the target is for you to find out in the future. Why can't you detect your target if it is the only metal object out in that area? Imagine this, if small missile can have terrain recognition, what do you think huge missiles with current processors can do? What about active radar and image recognition? Just because you don't know it exists, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. This was in 1988.

https://secwww.jhuapl.edu/techdigest/content/techdigest/pdf/V09-N03/09-03-Boone.pdf

Can you at least try to find naval battle that happen this century?

Back in 1865, the engagement distant is 300-500 yard (around 500 meters) which is how far those black gunpowder cannon can get, of course you need to sit right next to the port to do blockade, otherwise how are you even go engage people who run the blockade if you can only shoot 500 yards away.??

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I am talking about naval war in in 21st century

You said, there we no naval blockade for ports, I just proved to you naval blockades involved ports. 21st century? LOL, why can't we include WW2 port blockades in the 20th century? 21st century is only 2000 - 2020 period? A naval blockade in essense is to block the entry to a port, you don’t have to stay 500m from a port to block it right numb numb? Your combat vessel has an operating radius, any ships entering that radius can be destroyed. Who the fck is asking you to put it next to a port? You cover an area around the port so ships cannot enter without getting destroyed.



'A blockade is the act of actively preventing a country or region from receiving or sending out food, supplies, weapons, or communications, and sometimes people, by military force.'



Hence a naval blockade is just using the navy to block a country or region from receiving and sending out goods. To block a country from receiving and sending goods, you have to block the vessels from entering a port capable of receiving and sending those goods. Do you understand now? Don't be so stubborn.

Wow, again, I don't know where to start.

First of all, assuming them go on shore safely? The only way these people in fishing boat can go onshore safely is when you already had taken the coast, if so, WTF is these people for? Unless you try to up armored your fishing boat, thin tin layer of sheet steel can't stop a M240 firing 7.62 at 2800 to 3000 ft/s. Let alone a 12.5mm machine gun, let alone a AT-4 launcher, let alone a M81 mortar. If you have a Taiwanese soldier armed with a M240 at the board side of where your fishing boat land, it's not going to be safe. And lol, how fishing boat smuggle stuff? Dude, do you even know how heavy is a box of ammo? 200 rounds of 5.56 (Standard load out for an individual soldier, which will last you about 2 hours in firefight) with box is about 13 kg, with mag is about 10. 25 soldier per boat that ammo alone is 250kg, double it and you can last for4 hours for half a tons, just small arms ammo along, and then you have 25 men. your weapon, gear, pack, and you are adding individual drone on them, yeah, good luck on that trip.

Second of all, your plan depends on that 25000 troop make inroad, what if they didn't again, even if you are lucky enough to pull all 25000 troop on shore, you are talking about general engagement that is not going to last for 2 hours, let alone days and week, the first log pack have to be distributed within 2 hours, which is how long it takes to expand all 200 rounds they carried. Otherwise your men run dry, and you have to resupply them every 2 hours or whenever they need in order to make progress. And lol, occupy local supermarket? I am pretty sure these supermarket will roll out their red carpet to welcome the Chinese troop, given if they can get that far. Dude, those store would have been loot clean before you even start your op. You don't teleport to Taiwanese coast, the moment you went feet wet, they would have redistributed all the resource.

Thirdly, sure, fly them in, set aside whether or not you can deal with ALL Taiwanese AD to make that trip safe. Otherwise Y-20 against Patriot or even stinger, well, I don't think the odds are good. Even if you can completely pacified Taiwanese AD, let's just pretend you did, do you not think The Taiwanese would crater their own runway and make it impossible to used by the Chinese? That sound extremely familiar. Wait a minute, that's what the Ukrainian done in Hostomel......And instead of you are looking a land base armour thrust to secure Hostomel, you are looking at light infantry action trying to secure those airport before the Taiwanese dump it, I mean what could possibly go wrong?

1.) Do you think you have more old Mig or Taiwanese have more air defence missile?
2.) Oh, yes, cruise missile for the win, name me one war that you can actually destroy enemy air defence with cruise missile, this is not even being done by the American during Operation Iraqi Freedom. You know how I know? Well, I was there.
3.) well, you just missed something called Alert 5 and Ready 5 system, what if the air force already airborne? And lol, MLRS on a airfield?? With what? 30kg explosive charge? What kind of damage you think it will do?
4.) Yeah, of course you don't need to land to finish 90% of Taiwanese AD. Well, sure, whatever.....
5.) Yeah, of course, you have 3 fleet, and you think you can blockade an island about 40000 sq kilometers 24/7....,
6.) Haha, sure, that's how special force work. Using a lightly equipped, highly specialised force to occupy port and some area. I mean what can possibly go wrong?
7.) So you are saying all these are done before the main event?? Why not just say "Shoot missile, land troop, secure island.....job done instead.,"



First of all, if 20% of Taiwanese support One China and as you said before unification supporters, DPP won't get elected at all. You are talking about 20% of the entire population swing, not just 20% of voter

Second of all, supporting unification does not mean they will do jack for China. Again, if you really have 20% of Taiwanese working for you, there won't be a war.



Again, MLRS rocket don't do 400km. You are talking about ATACMS type missile, that's not artillery.

 

[Han Patriot]

华北is North China in Chinese, 中北 no one knows what it means, it can mean many things but not North China in Chinese.

Thread 'Do Chinese call North China 华北 or 中北'

Dec 7, 2024

This j_hungary guy argued with me for hours saying that in Chinese , North China is 中北， and I keep telling him that we Chinese call north China 华北，he stubbornly insist that 中北 means North China.
Please help and tell him North China is 华北 or 中北

• Beijingwalker
• Replies: 4
• Forum: China & Far East

He fcking seriously said 中北？ LOL。 That's some dmbshit acting like he knows Mandarin. He knows Cantonese, he is a mixed kid living in HK and migrated to Aussie speaking heavily Canto accented English. Even then Cantonese don't use 中北，they use 北方。

 

[Shanlung]

my chinese language proficiency is very limited. it’s best I don’t comment. ha ha.
ok maybe just one comment, Chinese tongue has lots of “sh” sounds that don’t or rarely exist in Vietic.

China is a land of many dialects.
Which can be treated as major language

Cantonese is a major dialect of China, and cantaonese do not sound like Chinese at all.
And cantonese very little of sh sound. I am a Cantonese

Cantonese tones are very much like Vietnamese., and
And Vietnamese is a subset of Cantonese

 

[Beijingwalker]

He fcking seriously said 中北？

The funniest thing is he tries so hard trying to teach we Chinese about how should we speak Chinese, so hilarious, 中北，lol...

 

[Beijingwalker]

China is a land of many dialects.
Which can be treated as major language

Cantonese is a major dialect of China, and cantaonese do not sound like Chinese at all.
And cantonese very little of sh sound. I am a Cantonese

Cantonese tones are very much like Vietnamese., and
And Vietnamese is a subset of Cantonese

Do Cantonese say 中北？ just curious.

 

[Shanlung]

Vietnamese were NEVER in Hanji form, you may not understand the word and what does it mean, but you will NOT mistook it as Vietnamese, as you know sure as hell this is Hanji (漢字) It would make sense if you ask where I speaking Japanese or Korean, because both language speak Hanji, but in your dumb brain trying to denied I speak Chinese and know I have a Vietnamese Background, you pin it on Vietnamese.

Extract from https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/39685-the-idiotic-taoist-way-of-getting-into-chinese/

When Dr Sun Yat Sen won and came into power in 1912, he decided a single acceptable nation wide spoken language must be in place for China. With the kind of back drop as I explained, no way in hell will Cantonese accept Fujianese as the national spoken language. Or Shanghainese accept Shandongnese or Fujianese accept Cantonese. That meeting for common spoken Chinese did not seem to go anywere. Then Beijinese was proposed as the National Language. Since Beijinese was spoken only by a few millions around the area of Bei jin, and that was not the spoken dialect of their rivals, everyone agreed to accept Beijinese as the National spoken language of China or national language or 國 語 .

Which is the reason why the Chinese language you spend so many years and money and handfuls of wet coarse grit on in your language courses can only be understood by your teachers and fellow students and incomprehensible once you move about China.

Vietnam used the same Chinese characters and Vietnamese is actually a dialect of Chinese.
Then the French Imperial Colonizers came. To force Vietnamese from their roots, the French Colonial Powers forced the Romanizing of Vietnamese, slaughtering thousands who tried to resist. As the same sound might be 30 different words, all clearly known by the written form with proper radicals, romanizing of the sound meant you need to use memory to know the context of the sentences before you can guess the meaning of that word or particular sound. Which is why Vietnamese is on the the most difficult language to learn and get into now.

Korea used the Chinese characters, known in Korea as Hanja 漢字 (just as Japanese Kanji 漢字) . 漢字 in other words is Han Zi or Chinese Words. Until Korean King Sejong the Great in 15th century invented, or cause to invent, the Korean script based on sounds. Since the King is the closest to Heaven , and Korea is a relatively small area and koreans speak the same way, that was implementable. But if you ever received a name card from a Korean, his or her name will inevitably by written in chinese characters. Those chinese characters will also be seen carved in stone steles and on the walls of their temples. Sorry, Koreans will rather drop dead then to use the bastardised jian ti ji so loved by lauwais trying to get into chinese.

In Japan, in addition to the Kanji, the Japanese used the kana, a phonetically representative of sound. You might like to know as a sound can mean 20 to 30 different words, Interestingly enough, this kana is like the chuyin fuhao (bopomofo) used traditionally by Chinese to teach their kids the sounds of Chinese words. This is discarded when kids are big unlike me.

Until present days.

This bopomofo is the means in which chinese words are entered into hand phones and PCs.
Non of those crap about using keyboards of a thousand keys to frighten people into using jian ti ji.

Where there cannot be any ambiguity such as Japanese contract, that contract will be totally written in kanji, or han zi. And japanese will drop dead first before using jian ti zi.


Mao Tze Tung not satisfied with burying 46,000 scholars alive, he wanted to make sure even the little that jian ti ji represented Chinese be totally destroyed , he wanted to coup de grace Chinese totally .

He got the Hanyu Pinyin developed to be the burial shroud of Chinese language. Hanyu Pinyin was designed to totally replace the written form of Chinese so that jian ti ji will not even be used.

So that all Chinese in China, after they were reverted to state of semi illiteracy with jian ti ji, will be totally illiterate in having to use Hanyu PinYin so no way could they refer to old writings to compare M T T against.

There can be more similarity between German and English in spoken language then between different chinese dialects. The screams against Hanyu pin yin to replace Chinese written characters became such a storm that Mao had to back down. It might be easier to get the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra to play Horst Wessel Lied or to get Americans to accept GOD SAVE THE QUEEN as American National Anthem.

Hanyu Pin Yin lingered on largely and entirely due to lauwais keeping that refrain alive to this day as their crutch into learning of Chinese.

So folks leaning on Hanyu Pin Yin to learn chinese might love that they using what was intended as burial shroud of Chinese language to prance about in.

Which is why I normally used my mental English version of how the chinese word sound instead of hanyu pin yin. Of course , in Ctrl C V , you then and only then, see the Hanjyu Pinyin from me. That seemed to be the case in Taiwan. Within a couple of km from each other, the same road signs to the same destination written in Chinese will have the phonetics in 5-6 different English forms. In Taiwan, nobody paid any heed to English words. Those lauwais who know also do not pay heed to English words either. Only those righteous ones demand the words to be written correctly (whatever is correct) and the rest of Taiwanese just get on with life.

 

[ST1976]

Can USA defeat China when China claims an Island which near the Chinese coast and there are ethnic Chinese people living in Taiwan who speak Mandarin as well?

Answer is:
Probably Not.

US$ is measured well below to Yuan in many countries. US-west are manipulating their currencies at present
they lie about their total budget expenditure too, US's defence budget would be well below to $100bn now, they have no money to fight war now

 

[Shanlung]

Do Cantonese say 中北？ just curious.

You go ask the lauwai about 中北 in Cantonese or other dialects
I defer to his wisdom and expertise

 

[Shanlung]

Can USA defeat China when China claims an Island which near the Chinese coast and there are ethnic Chinese people living in Taiwan who speak Mandarin as well?

Answer is:
Probably Not.

The world are seeing Houthis with their garage built missiles and drones whacking and frightening American navy , backed by Zionist Nazi Lebensraumers and UK in the Red Sea

America must be smoking dope nonestop to think that they can fight China near the coast of China , or even at 2nd Island Chain


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"The PRC has more than 470 [intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance] satellites feeding a robust sensor-shooter kill web," Saltzman said in March at the Mitchell Institute's Spacepower Security Forum, according to Air & Space Forces Magazine.

This is true?

And the many sonar buoys under the surface of the ocean.

Even if the captain on a carrier fart, China will know even if cannot smell.

And the
The Maritime Militia, the first line of defense, counts one-hundred eighty-thousand ocean-going fishing boats and four thousand merchant[7] freighters, some towing sonar detectors, crewed by a million experienced sailors transmitting detailed information around the clock on every warship afloat. Their intelligence goes to shore bases that fuse their reports with automated transmissions from Beidou satellites and forward the data to specialists operating ‘vessel management platforms,’ collating, formatting, and sending actionable information up the PLAN command chain.

While those 180,000 ocean going fishing boats are catching fishes and squids, they are also watching and listening to the turning screws of USA carriers and naval assets. And probably reporting every second to the super computer and Chinese AI as to where the USA naval assets are and will be.

And if Chinese satellite can track F-22s, how much easier to track the plodding USA carriers to know exactly where they are the moment they leave Pearl Harbour and cross the 3rd Island Chain

Video shows Chinese Satellite has tracked a seeming F22 fighter jet flying through sky

Video shows Chinese Satellite has tracked a seeming F22 fighter jet flying through sky.

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WANG SUI WANG WANG SUI 萬歲 萬 萬歲

Talking about tracking, this video might amuse folks here

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See how a Chinese satellite videoed and tracked a rocket taking off and then tracking that rocket.

So much easier to track American carriers and Burkes and Ticos , unless they moving faster than speeding rocket.

Remember the satellite was moving and had to move or that not be a satellite. Knowing and tracking via radar will be so much easier than tracking and focusing via camera

Which then be messaged to supercomputer to direct the DF21Ds and DF 26 and the thousands of supersonic hypersonic AShCMs to send the good news to US carriers and whatever they got.

So USA can act macho macho strutting about in phony FONOPs .

And all on board knowing they living on borrowed time.


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China is reportedly developing an advanced artificial intelligence system that could turn low-cost commercial satellites already orbiting the Earth into potent spy platforms. Reports suggest that it may have a success rate roughly seven times greater than existing technology.

This system is being developed by Chinese military researchers, who say that it is capable of tracking moving objects as small as a car with extraordinary precision, reported Chinese media.
The challenge of distinguishing a target via satellite footage was illustrated in 2020 when a Chinese space company released a video clip taken by Jilin-1, a small satellite. The satellite was presumably pursuing a cruising fighter jet from an altitude of almost 500km (310 miles).

Changguang Satellite, the manufacturer of the Jilin-1 Satellite, released that footage, which was extensively shared on Chinese social media platforms. A fighter plane can be seen flying over the city in the video. The company also put a caption beneath the video, allowing internet users to identify the fighter’s type.

China’s satellite apparently captured high-speed flying fighter
Many internet users speculated that the fighter jet was most likely the US-made F-22 stealth fighter. Its horizontal tail and wing were similar to those of the F-22 fighter, leading to the assumption. This entire predicament was ostensibly the catalyst for the development of new technology. The plane in the video was approximately 20 meters (65 feet) in length.


The commercial satellite’s camera, which has a resolution of around 1-meter, would only produce a few pixels of the small target. It is even more difficult to recognize an object when there are fewer details in the image.
Since each frame of the satellite footage encompassed more than 10 square kilometers, a small target like a car could fade into the background or be confused with other cars. This will probably make tracking its path from orbit virtually impossible.

File Image: F-22 Raptor
The Chinese team claimed that its new AI technology had attained 95% precision in finding a small object in the videos recorded by Jilin-1, with a success rate approximately seven times greater than existing technology.



I AM SURE CHINA GOT REDUNDANCIES AFTER REDUNDANCIES AS TO KNOW WHERE USA NAVAL ASSETS ARE AT ALL TIMES.

AND IF PUSHING TURN TO REAL SHOVING, USA SAILORS WILL REMAIN FOREVER YOUNG

AND NOW USA KNOW CHINA GOT LOTS OF BANG AND LONGER REACH THEN USA CAN DREAM OF.
AND ANY TIME USA WANT TO TURN PUSHING INTO REAL SHOVING, CHINA WILL BE MORE THAN READY AND WILLING TO TANGO :enjoy:



BY JOSEPH TREVITHICK NOVEMBER 16, 2020


At least some of the ballistic missiles that China's People's Liberation Army fired into the South China Sea during an exercise earlier this year, which you can read about more in the War Zone's initial story on those drills, reportedly hit a moving target ship. If true, this would be the country's first known demonstration of an actual long-range anti-ship ballistic missile capability, which could significantly change the operational calculus for any potential opponent, including the United States, in the disputed maritime region and elsewhere in the Pacific.
The South China Morning Post reported last week that Wang Xiangsui, a retired People's Liberation Army (PLA) officer, had said that one DF-26B intermediate-range ballistic missile (IRBM) and one DF-21D medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) had struck the target vessel as it sailed near the Paracel Island chain during the August exercise. Wang, who has been described as "well-connected" in the past, is best known as one of the co-authors of the 1999 book Unrestricted Warfare, which covered various asymmetric means to undermine and defeat countries that were technologically superior to China. It has become a highly influential text, and general concept, in national security circles.


"We launched the DF-21 and DF-26, and the missiles hit a vessel sailing south of the Paracel Islands," Wang said during a closed-door gathering in China's eastern Zhejiang province in October, according to the South China Morning Post. “Shortly after that, an American military attaché in Geneva, [Switzerland] complained and said it would lead to severe consequences if the missiles hit an American aircraft carrier. They see this as a show of force. But we are doing this because of their provocation."

Wang does not appear to have given any details about the target ship, its construction, how fast it might have been moving, or how the PLA may have cued the missiles their target.
It remains unclear exactly how many missiles the PLA fired during the exercise on Aug. 26. South China Morning Post's initial report had indicated that two weapons had been launched, one DF-26B and one DF-21D, from sites in China's northwestern Qinghai province and in Zhejiang, respectively.
I will not talk of DF21s or DF26s as that making you so uptight and I hate to induce constipation in you.
At least not at the very beginning.

Just run of the mill ShCMs that China got in abundance. That range far far beyond the range of America Harpoon and other associated crap

A lot more reach, and a lot more bang, and lots and lots of them too.
And all those will touch you before you even know that they are there, and way way before you can launch at China.

Chinese have about 3,000 of these kind of AShCMs.

In the form of Mach 3–4 YJ-12s carrying 400–500 semi shaped charge warheads, fired outside the AEGIS cover. The YJ-12 can also do evasive maneuvers to avoid anti-missile threats.

YJ-12 - Wikipedia

There is also the YJ-18 with reach exceeding Aegis cover. YJ-18 will start off at sub Mach 1. Until about 20 km from target , it will sprint at Mach 3–4 to deliver good news to the carrier .

China's YJ-18 Supersonic Anti-Ship Cruise Missile: America's Nightmare?

This Chinese description relates that the missile’s great strength is its “亚超结合的独特动力” [subsonic and supersonic combined unique propulsion]. Another term applied to this design is “双速制反舰导弹” [dual speed control ASCM]. As explained in the article, it is projected that YJ-18 would have an initial subsonic phase estimated at .8 Mach similar to the Klub of about 180km, but 20km from the target would unleash the supersonic sprint vehicle at speed of Mach 2.5 to 3. The “dual speed” function allows the system to realize certain advantages of subsonic cruise missiles, such as their “relatively long range, light weight and universality …” but also takes the chief advantage of supersonic ASCMs as well, namely the ability to “大幅压缩敌方的反应时间” [radically compress the enemy’s reaction time].

The Chinese article relates another advantage of the “dual speed” approach. Just as the missile comes into contact with the ship’s defenses, it “sheds the medium stage …,” thus simultaneously and dramatically altering both its speed and also its radar reflection, “which would impact the fire control calculation.” The likelihood that YJ-18 improves upon the Klub missile’s “digitization, automation, as well as providing more intelligent flight control and navigation technology” is attributed in the Chinese article to a recent Jane’s report.













Chinese have about 3,000 of these kind of AShCMs.

In the form of Mach 3–4 YJ-12s carrying 400–500 semi shaped charge warheads, fired outside the AEGIS cover. The YJ-12 can also do evasive maneuvers to avoid anti-missile threats.

YJ-12 - Wikipedia

There is also the YJ-18 with reach exceeding Aegis cover. YJ-18 will start off at sub Mach 1. Until about 20 km from target , it will sprint at Mach 3–4 to deliver good news to the carrier .

China's YJ-18 Supersonic Anti-Ship Cruise Missile: America's Nightmare?

This Chinese description relates that the missile’s great strength is its “亚超结合的独特动力” [subsonic and supersonic combined unique propulsion]. Another term applied to this design is “双速制反舰导弹” [dual speed control ASCM]. As explained in the article, it is projected that YJ-18 would have an initial subsonic phase estimated at .8 Mach similar to the Klub of about 180km, but 20km from the target would unleash the supersonic sprint vehicle at speed of Mach 2.5 to 3. The “dual speed” function allows the system to realize certain advantages of subsonic cruise missiles, such as their “relatively long range, light weight and universality …” but also takes the chief advantage of supersonic ASCMs as well, namely the ability to “大幅压缩敌方的反应时间” [radically compress the enemy’s reaction time].

The Chinese article relates another advantage of the “dual speed” approach. Just as the missile comes into contact with the ship’s defenses, it “sheds the medium stage …,” thus simultaneously and dramatically altering both its speed and also its radar reflection, “which would impact the fire control calculation.” The likelihood that YJ-18 improves upon the Klub missile’s “digitization, automation, as well as providing more intelligent flight control and navigation technology” is attributed in the Chinese article to a recent Jane’s report.




EVEN I NEVER SAID CHINA WILL SINK THE CBGs

WHO THE FCCK CARE ABOUT SINKING CBGs

WHEN THE SHIPS AND CARRIERS ARE BURNING FROM END TO END,
FROM THE FUEL ON BOARD AND ORDNANCE ON BOARD , AND THE PAINT
AND THE FLESH AND FAT AND OIL OF American MEN AND WOMEN

THEY ALL CAN REMAIN AFLOAT FOREVER TO GIVE SOLACE TO America AND THEIR RUNNING DOGGIES AND BROWN NOSERS THAT NONE OF THEM SUNK AT ALL



Any time USA want to tango, China will tango with USA

A hit from Chinese AShCM will be sufficient for it to be over for any USA carrier.

CHINESE AShCM CARRY EVEN MORE BANG AND HELLFIRE THAN THAT RUSSIAN P-800.
AND EXPECT AT LEAST 100 MISSILES BE HITTING THAT CARRIER, AND AT LEAST 10 TO EACH OF THE BURKES AND TICOS

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Estimated China got 3000++ of AShCMs

But it is more likely Chinese be firing 100 such missiles at single USA carrier.


No shit about bulkheads and spaces to contain the hellfire that will likely engulf the entire carrier.
WHEN ENTIRE SHIP CANNOT CONTAIN THE HELLFIRE, DONT TALK CRAP THAT BULKHEADS AND SPACES CAN CONTAIN THAT KIND OF HELLFIRE


And not just the warhead, there will be 2–3 tons of missiles coming behind the warhead at Mach 3 tearing into the bulkheads and ordnance and aviation fuel and the poor men and women in the carrier. Those 2–3 tons of missile body will be tearing in the bulkheads faster and more deadly then APFSDS. Andf carrying its own unburned fuel to add to the fun.
Even steel will burn when hit with hell fire and tons of steel and debris coming in at Mach 3. The aviation fuel, and paint on walls, the bombs and ordnance will all cook off and add to the huge huge fire inside the carrier. Regardless if carrier under Condition Zebra or Donkey or Jackass.
The brave sailors in those carriers will not care or worry and be happy that their carrier not sinking. And only burning and burning from one end to the other end


USA need not worry too much of DF26s DF21s any more.

Or even of the 3000++ AShCMs of China, including many Mach3s


As long as USA carriers and Burkes and Ticos stay out of 2nd Island Chain, they will remain safe.

Meet the latest.

This baby is call the YJ-21 , 鹰击-21 or Eagle Strike 21


https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/04/yj-21-chinas-new-anti-ship-missile-will-make-the-navy-sweat/



AND OF COURSE, EXPECT 300+++ DF21s and DF26s that be raining down from directly over head at Mach 10

WANG SUI WANG WANG SUI 萬歲 , 萬萬歲 . WANG SUI WANG WANG SUI . 萬歲 , 萬萬歲

 

[j_hungary]

Extract from https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/39685-the-idiotic-taoist-way-of-getting-into-chinese/

When Dr Sun Yat Sen won and came into power in 1912, he decided a single acceptable nation wide spoken language must be in place for China. With the kind of back drop as I explained, no way in hell will Cantonese accept Fujianese as the national spoken language. Or Shanghainese accept Shandongnese or Fujianese accept Cantonese. That meeting for common spoken Chinese did not seem to go anywere. Then Beijinese was proposed as the National Language. Since Beijinese was spoken only by a few millions around the area of Bei jin, and that was not the spoken dialect of their rivals, everyone agreed to accept Beijinese as the National spoken language of China or national language or 國 語 .

Which is the reason why the Chinese language you spend so many years and money and handfuls of wet coarse grit on in your language courses can only be understood by your teachers and fellow students and incomprehensible once you move about China.

Vietnam used the same Chinese characters and Vietnamese is actually a dialect of Chinese.
Then the French Imperial Colonizers came. To force Vietnamese from their roots, the French Colonial Powers forced the Romanizing of Vietnamese, slaughtering thousands who tried to resist. As the same sound might be 30 different words, all clearly known by the written form with proper radicals, romanizing of the sound meant you need to use memory to know the context of the sentences before you can guess the meaning of that word or particular sound. Which is why Vietnamese is on the the most difficult language to learn and get into now.

Korea used the Chinese characters, known in Korea as Hanja 漢字 (just as Japanese Kanji 漢字) . 漢字 in other words is Han Zi or Chinese Words. Until Korean King Sejong the Great in 15th century invented, or cause to invent, the Korean script based on sounds. Since the King is the closest to Heaven , and Korea is a relatively small area and koreans speak the same way, that was implementable. But if you ever received a name card from a Korean, his or her name will inevitably by written in chinese characters. Those chinese characters will also be seen carved in stone steles and on the walls of their temples. Sorry, Koreans will rather drop dead then to use the bastardised jian ti ji so loved by lauwais trying to get into chinese.

In Japan, in addition to the Kanji, the Japanese used the kana, a phonetically representative of sound. You might like to know as a sound can mean 20 to 30 different words, Interestingly enough, this kana is like the chuyin fuhao (bopomofo) used traditionally by Chinese to teach their kids the sounds of Chinese words. This is discarded when kids are big unlike me.

Until present days.

This bopomofo is the means in which chinese words are entered into hand phones and PCs.
Non of those crap about using keyboards of a thousand keys to frighten people into using jian ti ji.

Where there cannot be any ambiguity such as Japanese contract, that contract will be totally written in kanji, or han zi. And japanese will drop dead first before using jian ti zi.


Mao Tze Tung not satisfied with burying 46,000 scholars alive, he wanted to make sure even the little that jian ti ji represented Chinese be totally destroyed , he wanted to coup de grace Chinese totally .

He got the Hanyu Pinyin developed to be the burial shroud of Chinese language. Hanyu Pinyin was designed to totally replace the written form of Chinese so that jian ti ji will not even be used.

So that all Chinese in China, after they were reverted to state of semi illiteracy with jian ti ji, will be totally illiterate in having to use Hanyu PinYin so no way could they refer to old writings to compare M T T against.

There can be more similarity between German and English in spoken language then between different chinese dialects. The screams against Hanyu pin yin to replace Chinese written characters became such a storm that Mao had to back down. It might be easier to get the Israel Philharmonic Orchestra to play Horst Wessel Lied or to get Americans to accept GOD SAVE THE QUEEN as American National Anthem.

Hanyu Pin Yin lingered on largely and entirely due to lauwais keeping that refrain alive to this day as their crutch into learning of Chinese.

So folks leaning on Hanyu Pin Yin to learn chinese might love that they using what was intended as burial shroud of Chinese language to prance about in.

Which is why I normally used my mental English version of how the chinese word sound instead of hanyu pin yin. Of course , in Ctrl C V , you then and only then, see the Hanjyu Pinyin from me. That seemed to be the case in Taiwan. Within a couple of km from each other, the same road signs to the same destination written in Chinese will have the phonetics in 5-6 different English forms. In Taiwan, nobody paid any heed to English words. Those lauwais who know also do not pay heed to English words either. Only those righteous ones demand the words to be written correctly (whatever is correct) and the rest of Taiwanese just get on with life.

I am not talking about Ethnic Vietnamese speaking Chinese, I am talking about Vietnamese language do not have Hanja in it. A lot of Vietnamese speak Chinese, my mother being one of them, that does not mean there are Chinese Character in Vietnamese Language