China backed cooper mine threatens Pakistan shutdown over security risk

China should adopt an offshore balancing strategy toward the Indian subcontinent, much like how Britain dealt with continental Europe.
It ought to simply stand by and watch India and Pakistan contend with one another
China has stopped exporting J-35 fighter jets to Pakistan. If we’re unhappy with each other, ending our cooperation is the smartest move
 
China should adopt an offshore balancing strategy toward the Indian subcontinent, much like how Britain dealt with continental Europe.
It ought to simply stand by and watch India and Pakistan contend with one another
China has stopped exporting J-35 fighter jets to Pakistan. If we’re unhappy with each other, ending our cooperation is the smartest move
Who said we are unhappy with each other ? A relationship always has its issues and they need to be managed. There is no need to go ballistic.
 
Who said we are unhappy with each other ? A relationship always has its issues and they need to be managed. There is no need to go ballistic.
I’m merely speaking as a third party about the option most advantageous to China.
An offshore balancing strategy allows for maximum returns with minimal input
Currently, China has invested enormous resources in Pakistan, and this is not a wise decision from China’s perspective.
China and Pakistan differ drastically in ethnicity, culture and religion. Assisting a country with such stark disparities will not bring substantial benefits to China.
From an economic perspective, India boasts far greater potential instead.
 
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The biggest Chinese-operated copper and gold mine in Pakistan has warned that a worsening insurgency in the restive province of Balochistan may force it to suspend operations.

“The prevailing law and order situation in the province has severely affected the transportation of essential project cargo,” the managing director of Saindak Metals Limited wrote in a letter to Pakistan’s energy ministry, which was reviewed by the FT and has not been previously reported.

“If this situation continues unabated, the uninterrupted operation of the Saindak Copper-Gold Project may become unsustainable, and there is a serious likelihood that the Project’s operations may be forced to cease within a month owing to the non-availability of essential production materials and logistical support,” added the letter, which was dated June 29.

Saindak, Pakistan’s largest active copper and gold mine, was leased in 2001 to the state-owned Metallurgical Corporation of China, which has operated it under a joint venture with Pakistan’s state-owned SML. The project lease was extended for 15 years in 2022.
Almost all of the project’s output, which accounted for the majority of Pakistan’s roughly $750mn of copper products last year, is exported to China, according to official statistics.
China is also Pakistan’s largest bilateral lender, having provided Islamabad with billions of dollars in loans and grants to develop transportation and power infrastructure as part of the Belt and Road Initiative, Chinese leader Xi Jinping’s signature overseas infrastructure drive.

Much of that investment has focused on Balochistan, a mountainous south-western region that is roughly the size of Germany and has been beset by a separatist insurgency in recent years.

A bombing near a railway track in the provincial capital Quetta in May killed more than 20 people, while another four dozen lost their lives in a co-ordinated assault throughout the province in January.

The letter says that the main issue for its operations is road travel, which has become “increasingly hazardous” as a result of the attacks.

“The situation in Balochistan is far worse than many in Islamabad realise,” said one person involved in the mine who requested anonymity. “Security is especially bad in the area where major projects like [the Barrick Mining-backed] Reko Diq and Saindak are located.”

Islamabad claims the insurgency is backed by Indian intelligence agencies, a charge New Delhi denies, and insists it can stamp out militancy and guarantee “foolproof security” for foreign investors.

On Wednesday, Pakistan’s military spokesperson told a press conference that 42 people, including security and law enforcement personnel, had been killed by militancy in the province just last week.

“We will hunt you, and we will hurt you everywhere,” said Lieutenant General Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry. He added that Pakistan Armed Forces would not show “rationality and proportionality” in its response.

Pakistani forces have killed more than 100 fighters from both separatist and Islamist groups since July 5, according to state media.

Pakistan’s deteriorating security situation has also strained relations with China, its closest defence and economic partner, as insurgents have targeted foreign assets and personnel.

More than a dozen Chinese citizens have been killed by militants in recent years, and senior officials in Beijing including Xi have warned their Pakistani counterparts that improved security is needed for further investment.


Saindak’s woes mark the latest blow to Pakistan’s ambitions to turn its western frontier into a hub for natural resource extraction and source of much-needed export revenue.
In late March, the FT revealed that Barrick Mining was postponing development of the $9bn Reko Diq gold and copper mine as it reviewed the region’s security situation and supply chain disruption resulting from the US-Israeli war in Iran.

Reko Diq is roughly 50km from Saindak, and the projects share many transport links.
SML, Pakistan’s energy ministry and MCC did not respond to requests for comment.

I wanted to know where does the proceeds from that project go?
Does any one has information?
Which downstream copper industries were created?
From my understanding, there is a Crushing and Milling Plant, a
Concentrator Plant which supplies to The Saindak Metallurgical Plant & Smelter under Metallurgical Corporation of China, MCC. Plant produces Blister Copper, all of which is exported to China.
What Pakistan gets?
 
I’m merely speaking as a third party about the option most advantageous to China.
An offshore balancing strategy allows for maximum returns with minimal input
Currently, China has invested enormous resources in Pakistan, and this is not a wise decision from China’s perspective.
China and Pakistan differ drastically in ethnicity, culture and religion. Assisting a country with such stark disparities will not bring substantial benefits to China.
From an economic perspective, India boasts far greater potential instead.
You are mistaken if you think Belt and Road is purely economic.
 
You are mistaken if you think Belt and Road is purely economic.
From the perspective of geographical location and the fundamental goals of the Belt and Road Initiative, Pakistan is fundamentally insignificant.
China’s massive capital investment in Pakistan is entirely misguided. It would be far better to channel such funds into the Asia-Pacific region, as well as Pacific nations including Australia and New Zealand.
 
From the perspective of geographical location and the fundamental goals of the Belt and Road Initiative, Pakistan is fundamentally insignificant.
China’s massive capital investment in Pakistan is entirely misguided. It would be far better to channel such funds into the Asia-Pacific region, as well as Pacific nations including Australia and New Zealand.
It is Pakistan that is paying for all these "investments" and Chinese labor and corporations that are the beneficiaries. Pakistan is only hoping for benefits over the very long term horizon. It's the main problem with Chinese Belt and Road and other "investments" across the developing world, people say they are exploitative and they have a point.
 
It is Pakistan that is paying for all these "investments" and Chinese labor and corporations that are the beneficiaries. Pakistan is only hoping for benefits over the very long term horizon. It's the main problem with Chinese Belt and Road and other "investments" across the developing world, people say they are exploitative and they have a point.
Therefore, China’s optimal strategy is to halt all investments in Pakistan, including the transfer of military technologies.
Without engagement, grievances will not arise in the first place.

Australia is endowed with abundant mineral resources and welcomes investment from China.
 
Therefore, China’s optimal strategy is to halt all investments in Pakistan, including the transfer of military technologies. Without areas of engagement, grievances will not arise in the first place.
No bot, and stop wasting our time.
 
Australia hopes China will treat it in the same manner as Pakistan, eliminate all tariff barriers, and invest in the development of Australia’s mineral resources. Australia’s ores are of higher quality, plus it has far better public security conditions than Pakistan.

Teaming up between two strong powers to make money together beats endlessly helping a bunch of never-satisfied beggars by a mile
 
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I've said this before: the situation in Balochistan bears many similarities to the Naxal insurgency India faced.
The solution is likely to follow a similar path not relying solely on the military, but building a strong, locally recruited police force that understands the terrain, can operate independently for extended periods, and is capable of taking on the militants effectively.
Naxal Issue has been an ideological insurgency whereas balochistan is an ethno-nationalist & separatist one , besides Naxalism got resolved largely due to economy (on ground welfare schemes & substantial infra investments) as money has its tendency to move people's ideology ,fear of security forces only pushes it, here in balochistan it might not work even if pakistan has enough money to sink.
 
sure chinese are exploiting us and paying pennies to a pund

however, pakistan is amazing stories for most incompetent anti insurgency campiagn in history of last 5000 years
China's government may be communist, but their businesses, including state-owned ones, are capitalists. You can't blame them for extracting the best possible deal. It is not like we had other options lining up to invest.

Completely agree on the incompetence of the fauji and sarkaari idaaras.
 
sure chinese are exploiting us and paying pennies to a pund

however, pakistan is amazing stories for most incompetent anti insurgency campiagn in history of last 5000 years
Investment and poverty alleviation are two different policies; investment is external, while poverty alleviation is internal.
 
Australia hopes China will treat it in the same manner as Pakistan, eliminate all tariff barriers, and invest in the development of Australia’s mineral resources. Australia’s ores are of higher quality, plus it has far better public security conditions than Pakistan.

Teaming up between two strong powers to make money together beats endlessly helping a bunch of never-satisfied beggars by a mile
That would be great, but the likelihood of Australia abandoaning its security and strategic partnership with the United States and Western allies in favour of a grand pact with China is very low. Pakistan may be poor but not many other countries would roll out the red carpet for China like we do.
 
That would be great, but the likelihood of Australia abandoaning its security and strategic partnership with the United States and Western allies in favour of a grand pact with China is very low. Pakistan may be poor but not many other countries would roll out the red carpet for China like we do.
Australia stands isolated in the Pacific Ocean, far from Europe, the United States and the United Kingdom.
China is Australia’s largest trading partner, and Australia’s economy is heavily reliant on China. The country welcomes Chinese investment within its borders, only hoping to receive the same trade treatment and tariff exemptions granted to Pakistan.
Furthermore, Australia boasts far superior infrastructure and public security conditions compared to Pakistan
 

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