Chinese 6th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[Viet]

Lamba wing and powered by turbofan engine, not turbojet, and not downard wingtip but all movable wingtip.

rear and back view,

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ah ok turbofan
interesting choice
lamda wing but it looks a bit weird if lamda especially the rear wing angle.
movable wingtip?
I see.
that requires a lot of extreme mechanics.

 

[TopGun786]

7th gen i think will be part of the space frontier. A fighter "ship" which enters space travels are extreme speeds and can conduct attacks quickly around the globe with ability to launch weapons in space at satellites and other "defensive" ,"offensive" platforms in space. We are probably 50 years away.

I bet you haven't heard about Tejas. 2 years ago they claimed it was 7th generation.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

ah ok turbofan
interesting choice
lamda wing but it looks a bit weird if lamda especially the rear wing angle.
movable wingtip?
I see.
that requires a lot of extreme mechanics.

If you take a look at the US 6th gen on their power point slides, it is not going to be much different from China's 6th gen.

China has already developed what the US wants to develop.

 

[Viet]

If you take a look at the US 6th gen on their power point slides, it is not going to be much different from China's 6th gen.

China has already developed what the US wants to develop.

I don’t know. US 6.gen fighter aircraft is still a concept from what I see. from the video Chinese counterpart seems different, turbofan instead of turbojet. the only similarity is tailless lamda wing. and the concept of movable wing tip. Can’t tell if good or bad. I think that would compromise stealth.

 

[SD 10]

Lamba wing and powered by turbofan engine, not turbojet, and not downard wingtip but all movable wingtip.

rear and back view,

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whats the significance in choosing turbofan instead of turbojet?

 

[RajaBaja]

J-36 is definitely not a pure fighter, it could put AWACS/EW/fighter/UAV commander role all in one, the chief designer of J-36 told the media power generation is among the highest priority for J-36, so it may need a new definition for this catergory of combat aircrafts.

J-50 somehow are more in line with traditional fighter role.

The design has two interesting features:

1: 3rd engine obviously, showing massive power generation.

2: An S type duct could've provided air from the bottom two air intakes. But a third one above canopy means they needed more room in the body.

These design features mean it's roles will focus on three main categories (more configurations are obvious):

1: Range and Ceiling. The larger fuel load due to larger airframe and the third engine power should allow it to go much higher ceiling wise, granted it was designed for such scenario.

2: Heavy sensor loads. Playing NODE leader for a combat formation of man-unmanned combo, and an AWACS type role. I'd expect its radar to be comparable to today's AWACS radars giving it near 500-600 KM reach or even more. F-35 can detect certain things near 1000 KM away.

2: Larger ordinance delivery. It should hold larger payloads through rotating adapters like the one's you see in Lancer, B2 and TU-160 but smaller. Ideally, it's weapons bay should hold 4 BVR missile each at a minimum and a larger load of bombs?

This is nothing. India is already working on an 8th generation fighter.

7th generation are supposed to be all robotics. Star wars type unmanned supersonic, upper atmospheric reach, rocket combustion like engines, accompanied by 6th gen.

7th gen jet manned fighter will be like going back in history and tech. 10 years from now, almost all military fields will start to have larger robotic inventories. Future is all sensors and robots fighting, just like what they showed like 30 years ago in that movie The Terminator.

 

[krash]

turbofan instead of turbojet.

You'd be hard pressed to find a modern combat jet that does not use a turbofan. F-22, F-35, F-16, F-15, SU-30, J-10, Rafale, Eurofighter, all of them.

and the concept of movable wing tip. Can’t tell if good or bad. I think that would compromise stealth.

As opposed to the ailerons?

 

[RealNapster]

7th gen jet manned fighter will be like going back in history and tech. 10 years from now, almost all military fields will start to have larger robotic inventories. Future is all sensors and robots fighting, just like what they showed like 30 years ago in that movie The Terminator

Till someone detonate an EMP.

 

[That_Guy]

China is working on 7th Gen fighter program

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Its bullshit.

 

[RajaBaja]

Till someone detonate an EMP.

You watch too many movies? EMP isn't magic........ anti-EMP protocols exist and by then, will be implemented in these robots.

 

[Hendarto]

Its bullshit.

Why? China typically has three steps in the design of fighters: one in production (J20), one in the testing phase (J36, J50), and one in research. I think you are the one who is ignorant and knows nothing about China's development program.

Decades ago it was J10 in production, J20 in testing, and J36, J50 in research

 

[That_Guy]

Why? China typically has three steps in the design of fighters: one in production (J20), one in the testing phase (J36, J50), and one in research. I think you are the one who is ignorant and knows nothing about China's development program.

Decades ago it was J10 in production, J20 in testing, and J36, J50 in research

Research and actual work are two different things.

The video claims that active work is being done on it, and that's simply not the case.

 

[Hendarto]

Research and actual work are two different things.

The video claims that active work is being done on it, and that's simply not the case.

Actual work? Of course, it is research. Do they twiddle their thumbs in research? NO, they bust their ass working 9/9/7

 

[That_Guy]

Actual work? Of course, it is research. Do they twiddle their thumbs in research? NO, they bust their ass working 9/9/7

Stop playing games.

You know exactly what I mean.

 

[Hendarto]

Stop playing games.

You know exactly what I mean.

What exactly do you mean? The video only said that China has begun the research on 7th generation aircraft. It talks about an oblique detonation engine, which they successfully tested, albeit still a proof of concept and far away from a production model. Every generation of aircraft starts with the engine, the heart of a fighter. So why did you call it BS?