Chinese Aircraft Carriers - Liaoning, Shandong, Fujian and the future
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Michael
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The Liaoning aircraft carrier battle group recently operated in the Western Pacific Ocean. Japan released observation information. In 7 days, the Liaoning Carrier Battle Group performed a total of 410 aircraft takeoffs and landings (250 for fighters and 160 for helicopters).
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from Fujian will made my day
Hendarto
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420 aircraft in 7 days works out to 60 aircraft per day assuming 12 hour works day launch only it averages 5 aircraft launches per hour or 12 minutes per aircraft NOT BAD but things will even get better once Fujian is operational
Michael
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003 Close-up photo, condition unknown, for reference only.
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@Hendarto
We cannot extrapolate 003's future data based on Japan's observed data.
1. This is observed data from Japan, not real data.
2, The Liaoning aircraft carrier's main position is testing and training. Combat attributes are part-time. Shandong aircraft carrier is the full time combat warship.
3. The most important data of the aircraft carrier are: the time to empty the deck and hangar, the preparation time to empty again, the carrying capacity .......... ...The number of takeoffs and landings in a 7 day period doesn't mean much, it just means it's more intensively trained.
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@Hendarto
We cannot extrapolate 003's future data based on Japan's observed data.
1. This is observed data from Japan, not real data.
2, The Liaoning aircraft carrier's main position is testing and training. Combat attributes are part-time. Shandong aircraft carrier is the full time combat warship.
3. The most important data of the aircraft carrier are: the time to empty the deck and hangar, the preparation time to empty again, the carrying capacity .......... ...The number of takeoffs and landings in a 7 day period doesn't mean much, it just means it's more intensively trained.
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Nuffle
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@zhanlongI refer to this recent activity of the Liaoning carrier group.
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Hendarto
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Liaoning in western pacific
Chinese Carrier Strike Group Liaoning Preparing to Enter South China Sea
According to an update from the Japan Ministry of Defense on October 02, China's aircraft carrier Liaoning sailed southwest from the Philippine Sea through waters east of the Philippines on October 1.
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Hendarto
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wow record sortie, slowly but surely the PLAN carrier task force is getting ready for the real thing a record sofar
https://theaviationist.com/2024/10/04/liaoning-sorties-japan-mod/ China's Liaoning Carrier Clocks 630 Aircraft Sorties, Appears in New Locations in Western Pacific – Japan MoD
Story by Parth Satam
For the entire duration between Sep. 20 and Oct. 1, the JMSDF (Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force), that sent its own warships to observe the Chinese fleet, counted a total number 630 operations – fighters and helicopters combined. The Liaoning had clocked the figures prior to this in December 2022.
The Liaoning CSG first raised eyeballs when it passed through Japan's Yonaguni and Iriomote islands, which are the southernmost features in its Ryukyu island chain that ends a little away from Taiwan's northeastern waters. A map of its movement showed the naval armada spotted moving southwest into the waters east of The Philippines towards the Celebes Sea, off its main island of Mindanao from Oct. 1 to Oct. 2.
The PLA Navy's Liaoning CSG (Carrier Strike Group), operating in the western Pacific's SCS (South China Sea) since Sep. 17-18, 2024, saw approximately 130 take-offs and landings by carrier-based aircraft and around 90 helicopter operations from Sep. 27 to Oct. 1, the Japan MoD reported . This totaled 220 takeoffs and landings in the four-five day period.
For the entire duration between Sep. 20 and Oct. 1, the JMSDF (Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force), that sent its own warships to observe the Chinese fleet, counted a total number 630 operations – fighters and helicopters combined. The Liaoning had clocked the figures prior to this in December 2022.
The Liaoning CSG first raised eyeballs when it passed through Japan's Yonaguni and Iriomote islands, which are the southernmost features in its Ryukyu island chain that ends a little away from Taiwan's northeastern waters. A map of its movement showed the naval armada spotted moving southwest into the waters east of The Philippines towards the Celebes Sea, off its main island of Mindanao from Oct. 1 to Oct. 2.
Interesting, on Oct. 2 , 2024, the Marine Rotational Force-Southeast Asia announced having arrived in the Philippines as part of the third annual rotational deployment for their six month stint. Simultaneously, other US and Allied forces too tried to show their presence in the region in response to the Chinese exercise. The US Navy 7th Fleet shared images of the Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer USS Howard, with warships from the Philippines, Australian, New Zealand and Japanese navies.
Whether the test involved an actual flight from the STOBAR (Short Take-Off Barrier-Arrested) ski-ramp or a mockup model is not yet clear. But the GT report did carry an image showing "full-scale models of a J-35 and the J-15 in waterproof cloth on the Liaoning's flight deck in Dalian."
During the drills, the JMSDF saw the Liaoning being accompanied by the Luyang III-class, Renhai-class guided missile destroyers and the Fuyu-class fast combat support ship (or a naval fleet replenishment tanker) that was photographed transferring fuel to the Liaoning at one point. The JMSDF deployed the Escort Division 2's and the Escort Division 8's, JS Asahi and JS Kirisame for "surveillance and information gathering."
Interestingly, the Liaoning had achieved the feat prior to this in Dec. 2022, with 130 launches and recoveries in the western Pacific. At that time too it was shadowed by the JMSDF. But that same year in May, the Liaoning saw more than 300 fighter and helicopter sorties in the western Pacific. GT said: "II was considered by observers as the most sortie-intensive exercise by the Chinese carrier in the region at the time. This means that the aircraft sorties during the four days were more than twice as intensive as the exercise in May."
It also serves as a message to Taiwan and Japan about the PLA Navy's ability to conduct full-blown carrier-borne fighter-bomber sorties from around its shores. During the drills in 2022, GT added that the J-15s were carrying air-to-air missiles. But it is difficult to identify the munitions on the fighters given the long distance shot of the Liaoning's carrier operations.
https://theaviationist.com/2024/10/04/liaoning-sorties-japan-mod/ China's Liaoning Carrier Clocks 630 Aircraft Sorties, Appears in New Locations in Western Pacific – Japan MoD
Story by Parth Satam
Japan's Joint Staff marked spots in the Pacific waters east of the Philippines as 'newly announced locations' for the Chinese navy.
The PLA Navy's Liaoning CSG (Carrier Strike Group), operating in the western Pacific's SCS (South China Sea) since Sep. 17-18, 2024, saw approximately 130 take-offs and landings by carrier-based aircraft and around 90 helicopter operations from Sep. 27 to Oct. 1, the Japan MoD reported . This totaled 220 takeoffs and landings in the four-five day period.For the entire duration between Sep. 20 and Oct. 1, the JMSDF (Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force), that sent its own warships to observe the Chinese fleet, counted a total number 630 operations – fighters and helicopters combined. The Liaoning had clocked the figures prior to this in December 2022.
The Liaoning CSG first raised eyeballs when it passed through Japan's Yonaguni and Iriomote islands, which are the southernmost features in its Ryukyu island chain that ends a little away from Taiwan's northeastern waters. A map of its movement showed the naval armada spotted moving southwest into the waters east of The Philippines towards the Celebes Sea, off its main island of Mindanao from Oct. 1 to Oct. 2.
The PLA Navy's Liaoning CSG (Carrier Strike Group), operating in the western Pacific's SCS (South China Sea) since Sep. 17-18, 2024, saw approximately 130 take-offs and landings by carrier-based aircraft and around 90 helicopter operations from Sep. 27 to Oct. 1, the Japan MoD reported . This totaled 220 takeoffs and landings in the four-five day period.
For the entire duration between Sep. 20 and Oct. 1, the JMSDF (Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force), that sent its own warships to observe the Chinese fleet, counted a total number 630 operations – fighters and helicopters combined. The Liaoning had clocked the figures prior to this in December 2022.
The Liaoning CSG first raised eyeballs when it passed through Japan's Yonaguni and Iriomote islands, which are the southernmost features in its Ryukyu island chain that ends a little away from Taiwan's northeastern waters. A map of its movement showed the naval armada spotted moving southwest into the waters east of The Philippines towards the Celebes Sea, off its main island of Mindanao from Oct. 1 to Oct. 2.
Interesting, on Oct. 2 , 2024, the Marine Rotational Force-Southeast Asia announced having arrived in the Philippines as part of the third annual rotational deployment for their six month stint. Simultaneously, other US and Allied forces too tried to show their presence in the region in response to the Chinese exercise. The US Navy 7th Fleet shared images of the Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyer USS Howard, with warships from the Philippines, Australian, New Zealand and Japanese navies.
Sortie frenzy
Liaoning, the PLA Navy's first aircraft carrier, was modified and restructured from the Soviet-era Kuznetsov-class carrier and commissioned in September 2012. Its primary air arm consists of the J-15 carrier-borne fighter, itself a Chiese-derivative of the Russian Su-33. Global Times reported in mid-September that a "new type" of warplane, speculating it could be the carrier-borne twin-engine J-31/J-35, was "tested earlier this year" from the Liaoning.Whether the test involved an actual flight from the STOBAR (Short Take-Off Barrier-Arrested) ski-ramp or a mockup model is not yet clear. But the GT report did carry an image showing "full-scale models of a J-35 and the J-15 in waterproof cloth on the Liaoning's flight deck in Dalian."
During the drills, the JMSDF saw the Liaoning being accompanied by the Luyang III-class, Renhai-class guided missile destroyers and the Fuyu-class fast combat support ship (or a naval fleet replenishment tanker) that was photographed transferring fuel to the Liaoning at one point. The JMSDF deployed the Escort Division 2's and the Escort Division 8's, JS Asahi and JS Kirisame for "surveillance and information gathering."
Interestingly, the Liaoning had achieved the feat prior to this in Dec. 2022, with 130 launches and recoveries in the western Pacific. At that time too it was shadowed by the JMSDF. But that same year in May, the Liaoning saw more than 300 fighter and helicopter sorties in the western Pacific. GT said: "II was considered by observers as the most sortie-intensive exercise by the Chinese carrier in the region at the time. This means that the aircraft sorties during the four days were more than twice as intensive as the exercise in May."
Purpose of the drill
The drill has a simple aim of getting the crew the pilots used to high-tempo operations for a conventional war with a peer adversary like the US Navy in punishing and strainful conditions of carrier aviation. The USN terms this as SGR (Sortie Generation Rate), which had seen significantly high numbers during the USS Eisenhower's deployment on the Red Sea.It also serves as a message to Taiwan and Japan about the PLA Navy's ability to conduct full-blown carrier-borne fighter-bomber sorties from around its shores. During the drills in 2022, GT added that the J-15s were carrying air-to-air missiles. But it is difficult to identify the munitions on the fighters given the long distance shot of the Liaoning's carrier operations.
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Michael
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Not referring to it, it has come up many times.
Compare the previous pictures and you'll see that the 003's blocking cables appear on the deck for the first time.
nang2
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You mean the arresting cables. Yeah, looks like it. Not very clear though.
Michael
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First time I've seen pictures like this . 001 and 002 docked at the same time at a pier. It would be a perfect picture if 003 joined in.
The last time they appeared at the same time was at the shipyard.
The last time they appeared at the same time was at the shipyard.
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