Chinese Aircraft Carriers - Liaoning, Shandong, Fujian and the future

[Vi-va]

I don't know why you keep contradicting yourself.

I said that a hot war is very unlikey happened between China and the US, because the only outcome will turn into a nuclear war.

So the new cold war/arm race is the only possibility for this rivalry.

So we have more reason to build superior weapons/technologies compared to the US to make sure that most country in the world will feel safer to trade with us, not to succumb to the US coercion that tried to isolate us.

Also, don't compare us to USSR, we have by far more superior industrial power, and even the US is no match for us.

The US can only fudge their fake bloated GDP number to make them appear bigger, but when it comes to the real industrial might, they are actually 1/3 to 1/4 of our power.

Time is on our side.

This is a completely different topic. It's about military doctrine and China's grand strategy in the next several decades.

As I said in previous posts, this will not be an era of Cold War 2.0. China's geography, neighborhood, and economic model are quite different from the situation in Cold War 1.0.

More importantly, it's a multipolar world. Countries are connected like a network, while China is deeply embedded in the system.

Thus, China's military doctrine and grand strategy are very different from those of the Soviet.

Key word: Overall National Security Outlook

https://interpret.csis.org/translations/fully-implement-the-overall-national-security-outlook/

http://www.qstheory.cn/dukan/qs/2024-04/15/c_1130109145.htm

 

[Hendarto]

I don't know how true this news is But HongKong news media said Fujian successfully launched KJ 600

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[Deino]

I don't know how true this news is But HongKong news media said Fujian successfully launched KJ 600

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Forget it ...

 

[BP2]

So, what's a big deal? As I said earlier, it only costs several millions to refuel the carrier.

From a cost perspective, it's fine. China's carrier will not go to the Western Hemisphere at this stage. The Indian Ocean is not far from China.

It's not a question of cost to refuel, but the carrier during refuel is at high risk (slow motion, in straight direction) and has to leave the battle front more often to do so.

 

[BP2]

Ford's EMALS was rushed, and it is not so reliable as most people expected.

The second ship of the Ford class is also building with a snail speed.

Sorry France, you may eventually beg China for the EMALS technology for your PANG carrier.

In the west nearly all is said, so for the EMALS early problems.
In China all is hiden. No one knows if red EMALS are doing well or not...

 

[BP2]

KH and Forrestal's steam catapults would require to desalinate huge amount of saltwater into fresh water to power its steam catapult, and its cruising speed will also be affected with each batch of sorties.

EMALS power came from the same nuc reactor than the ones used for cruising... So even EMALS affect the speed.

 

[Vi-va]

It's not a question of cost to refuel, but the carrier during refuel is at high risk (slow motion, in straight direction) and has to leave the battle front more often to do so.

It seems not much difference, not a big deal.

In battle scenarios, you must replenish other stuff, such as fuel for fighter jets, munitions, food, spare parts, etc.

Refueling Ships at Sea​

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Cargo Transfer​

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Underway replenishment
https://www.dmsonline.us/underway-replenishment/

For Nimitz, average would be about 4 hours for fuel “Jet”, food, spare parts and don’t forget mail. Add a hour or more for ammo.
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I don't think this is a key factor that is big enough for China to choose Nuclear-Powered aircraft carrier.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

In the west nearly all is said, so for the EMALS early problems.
In China all is hiden. No one knows if red EMALS are doing well or not...

Working super well.

The 36 tons cart has been launched like a ragdoll.

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To launch the aircrafts will be quite soon.

 

[Vi-va]

EMALS power came from the same nuc reactor than the ones used for cruising... So even EMALS affect the speed.

Not true. The EMALS requires very small amount of energy (not electric power)

Energy-storage subsystem​

200 sorties cost the AIB reactor 160 seconds to generate the electric energy.

The A1B reactors are likely to produce enough steam to generate 125 megawatts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A1B_reactor

Each three-second launch can consume as much as 100 million watts of electricity. That's 100 kWh.

So what's the big deal, bro? 200 sorties cost the AIB reactor 160 seconds to generate the power.

You dare not keep your super carriers AESA radars activated daily during the wartime. You will be an easy target.

The AESA of destroyers and cruisers are activated instead.

It seems you have some misunderstanding of sea warfare.

 

[BP2]

Not true. The EMALS requires very small amount of energy (not electric power)

Energy-storage subsystem​

200 sorties cost the AIB reactor 160 seconds to generate the electric energy.

EMALS not use electrical power ? Are you pulling my leg ?

Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System => You need electricity to produce electromagnetism.

"The EMALS uses a linear induction motor (LIM), which uses alternating current (AC) to generate magnetic fields that propel a carriage along a track to launch the aircraft.[5][6] "

Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Vi-va]

In the west nearly all is said, so for the EMALS early problems.
In China all is hiden. No one knows if red EMALS are doing well or not...

There were problems with the original design of U.S. EMALS.

China is much more advanced in those field, such as

Ultra-high-voltage electricity transmission in China​

 

[Vi-va]

EMALS not use electrical power ? Are you pulling my leg ?

Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System => You need electricity to produce electromagnetism.

"The EMALS uses a linear induction motor (LIM), which uses alternating current (AC) to generate magnetic fields that propel a carriage along a track to launch the aircraft.[5][6] "

Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

During a launch, the induction motor requires a large surge of electric power that exceeds what the ship's own continuous power source can provide. The EMALS energy-storage system design accommodates this by drawing power from the ship during its 45-second recharge period and storing the energy kinetically


I mean low energy, but a large surge of electric power. Wrong wording.

 

[Hendarto]

The latest looks like a plane is chasing Fujian

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[Deino]

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That's pure non-sense! the J-35 is never that ready to be tested yet ... most likely just a helicopter