Chinese LHD / LAH Carriers - Type 075 & 076 and the future

[Michael]

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You're moving too fast. I'll add the full picture.

 

[Deino]

Slightly modified…

 

[Hendarto]

Both island are now installed

 

[Michael]

Both island are now installed
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Some people on Chinese social media have analyzed that the 076 may be launched and outfitted by the end of this year. But I think the earliest should be early next year. The ideal time would be after the Chinese New Year holiday.

 

[Deino]

Another clearer update on the Type 076 with its twin island superstructures installed.

(Images via @这丫头有点风 from Weibo)

 

[sutton9999]

wish list

1 stealth-toned L15 multi-role
2 air-combat wingman UAV
3 central line landing

 

[yusheng]

some pointviews from Chinese Weibo, the author's name is on the pictures.

 

[FuturePAF]

wish list

1 stealth-toned L15 multi-role
2 air-combat wingman UAV
3 central line landing

Not wide enough to do launches and recovery at the same time. Perhaps a follow-on version will have an angled flight deck and a second EMALs to give it the possibility of simultaneous launches and recoveries.

 

[yusheng]

from "琴石2022“
The true face of 076
Actually, it has runway of 003 and catapult 3 of 003.
the ship width and length is just right. When I was chatting with a friend before, I pointed out that deck 076 is part of 003, and he drew it, as shown in Figure 3-5. It's really like this.
Although 076 can be considered a part of 003, it is not only capable of cooperating with 003 in combat, but also a flagship class main warship with strong independent combat capabilities. I still oppose the angled landing runway design in the picture and prefer the direct access to the deck for takeoff and landing.
Since the size fully simliar to the landing runway of 003, J35, KJ600, may take off and land on this 076!

 

[Hendarto]

Not wide enough to do launches and recovery at the same time. Perhaps a follow-on version will have an angled flight deck and a second EMALs to give it the possibility of simultaneous launches and recoveries.

No one does that simultaneous landing and take-off. It is just too dangerous. Not even on the aircraft carrier

 

[Michael]

from "琴石2022“
The true face of 076
Actually, it has runway of 003 and catapult 3 of 003.
the ship width and length is just right. When I was chatting with a friend before, I pointed out that deck 076 is part of 003, and he drew it, as shown in Figure 3-5. It's really like this.
Although 076 can be considered a part of 003, it is not only capable of cooperating with 003 in combat, but also a flagship class main warship with strong independent combat capabilities. I still oppose the angled landing runway design in the picture and prefer the direct access to the deck for takeoff and landing.
Since the size fully simliar to the landing runway of 003, J35, KJ600, may take off and land on this 076!

There is a lot of discussion about 076 on Chinese social media.

My personal opinion:
076's positioning is still LAH. It has an electromagnetic ejection and interdiction system that can take off and land fixed-wing aircraft.
But it only has one electromagnetic catapult take-off runway that exactly coincides with the landing runway. This design is not destined to allow it to carry out a large number of fixed-wing aircraft take-offs and landings.
At the same time, the runway coincides with the helicopter take-off and landing area, which leads to the need to empty the helicopter take-off and landing area when carrying out fixed-wing aircraft take-off and landing operations.
Therefore, the 076 will only be equipped with a small number of fixed-wing aircraft, and will only carry out fixed-wing aircraft take-off and landing operations during special work or emergency moments.
Just because it is equipped with an electromagnetic ejection and interdiction system cannot infinitely exaggerate its capabilities. This does not correspond to basic scientific logic and military common sense.

 

[FuturePAF]

No one does that simultaneous landing and take-off. It is just too dangerous. Not even on the aircraft carrier

Not simultaneously, but aren’t planes lined up to be able to launch on the forward catapults, in an emergency (fighters on alert), keeping the deck clear behind them for planes to be recovered on the angled flight deck?

I know it also depends on sailing into the wind or against the wind as well.

Perhaps they can switch between launching fighters and recovering fighters quickly and have fighters on the side, in a ready state.

 

[Hendarto]

Not simultaneously, but aren’t planes lined up to be able to launch on the forward catapults, in an emergency (fighters on alert), keeping the deck clear behind them for planes to be recovered on the angled flight deck?

I know it also depends on sailing into the wind or against the wind as well.

Perhaps they can switch between launching fighters and recovering fighters quickly and have fighters on the side, in a ready state.

You can't crowd up the front of the deck because you need room to move the plane after they land They can't move by themselves. They need a tractor dolly to position for rearming and refueling

 

[FuturePAF]

You can't crowd up the front of the deck because you need room to move the plane after they land They can't move by themselves. They need a tractor dolly to position for rearming and refueling

True, but if they want to switch to launching aircraft, either they will have to have enough prepared somewhere on deck (probably aft) or in the hangar.

The planes or helicopters that land will just have to move over the landing zone, leaving free the area forward and aft of the island.

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[Hendarto]

True, but if they want to switch to launching aircraft, either they will have to have enough prepared somewhere on deck (probably aft) or in the hangar.

The planes or helicopters that land will just have to move over the landing zone, leaving free the area forward and aft of the island.

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You can't do that because it is not just one plane that comes back, Another thing is what would happen if they get shot badly and need an emergency landing or worse fire on the deck with ordnance still on the plane. That is why you have an emergency chute to drop that nasty bomb. Nobody does that why do you insist on wacky and dangerous carrier operations?