Chinese LHD / LAH Carriers - Type 075 & 076 and the future

[Deino]

Three types of UAVs by 601，611 and 611，respectively.

Pardon . 611 & 611??

 

[wangdefa]

We have not found any facilities on the Type 076 LHD (Sichuan) related to the takeoff and landing of manned carrier-based aircraft, including key facilities such as auxiliary landing and control command systems.

This is the Fresnel lens optical aid system on the Fujian aircraft carrier. It is one of the key pieces of equipment for carrier-based fighter aircraft takeoff and landing operations. However, we did not find it on the Type 076 LHD.
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Therefore, the topic of manned carrier-based aircraft (J-15T, J-35 carrier version, KJ-600, etc.) operating on the Type 076 LHD can be temporarily set aside. Unless one day in the future we discover these facilities on this type of warship.

I think he should be equipped with a vertical takeoff and landing aircraft. This is in line with his temperament. The world's first unmanned aircraft carrier equipped with an electromagnetic catapult. They set off with a full load using electromagnetic catapults, and they use vertical takeoff and landing when landing.

076 will be the best carrier for loyal wingmen.

 

[Zoyou]

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[Aziqbal]

We have not found any facilities on the Type 076 LHD (Sichuan) related to the takeoff and landing of manned carrier-based aircraft, including key facilities such as auxiliary landing and control command systems.

This is the Fresnel lens optical aid system on the Fujian aircraft carrier. It is one of the key pieces of equipment for carrier-based fighter aircraft takeoff and landing operations. However, we did not find it on the Type 076 LHD.
View attachment 159452

Therefore, the topic of manned carrier-based aircraft (J-15T, J-35 carrier version, KJ-600, etc.) operating on the Type 076 LHD can be temporarily set aside. Unless one day in the future we discover these facilities on this type of warship.

I guess you missed my point


manned from Chinese Carriers not Type 076

 

[Michael]

I guess you missed my point
manned from Chinese Carriers not Type 076

1. This thread focuses on LHD, not aircraft carriers.

2. Although Type 076 possesses EMALS, its fundamental role remains that of a LHD. LHD and aircraft carriers have their own tactical roles and uses. Of course, they can coexist in non-combat situations such as demonstrations and fleet movements.

 

[nang2]

1. This thread focuses on LHD, not aircraft carriers.

2. Although Type 076 possesses EMALS, its fundamental role remains that of a LHD. LHDs and aircraft carriers have their own tactical roles and uses. Of course, they can coexist in non-combat situations such as demonstrations and fleet movements.

Why not? Every type of warships has its own tactical roles and uses. That doesn't mean they cannot coexist in combat situations, does it?

 

[Michael]

Why not? Every type of warships has its own tactical roles and uses. That doesn't mean they cannot coexist in combat situations, does it?

The LHD is designed for amphibious landing operations. A key characteristic of this tactic is its close proximity to the target, typically within a few to tens of kilometers.

This is also reflected in the LHD's design.
This distance makes it vulnerable to land-based artillery fire. LHDs employ two engine systems spaced far apart. This is to ensure continued operation even if its engines are attacked. The downside is that the two smokestacks result in a long island superstructure.

Aircraft carriers, in actual combat, are typically far from their targets. They are well beyond the range of land-based artillery (ignoring missile range).

There is a significant difference in the operational range of these two types of warships.

If facing a weaker enemy, then you can operate with almost any strategy.

If facing an evenly matched enemy, then neither type of warship can be deployed simultaneously in a formation.

In an evenly matched situation, the carrier strike group advances to strike. The LHD will only begin its amphibious assault once the carrier strike group has gained air and sea superiority and the battle line is close to the enemy's land border. By the time the LHD begins its amphibious assault, the carrier strike group has already commenced its deep strike mission.

Their attack missions and attack waves are completely different.

Of course, if you consider the entire surface attack force as a single formation, then they also constitute a formation.

 

[nang2]

The LHD is designed for amphibious landing operations. A key characteristic of this tactic is its close proximity to the target, typically within a few to tens of kilometers.

This is also reflected in the LHD's design.
This distance makes it vulnerable to land-based artillery fire. LHDs employ two engine systems spaced far apart. This is to ensure continued operation even if its engines are attacked. The downside is that the two smokestacks result in a long island superstructure.

Aircraft carriers, in actual combat, are typically far from their targets. They are well beyond the range of land-based artillery (ignoring missile range).

There is a significant difference in the operational range of these two types of warships.

If facing a weaker enemy, then you can operate with almost any strategy.

If facing an evenly matched enemy, then neither type of warship can be deployed simultaneously in a formation.

In an evenly matched situation, the carrier strike group advances to strike. The LHD will only begin its amphibious assault once the carrier strike group has gained air and sea superiority and the battle line is close to the enemy's land border. By the time the LHD begins its amphibious assault, the carrier strike group has already commenced its deep strike mission.

Their attack missions and attack waves are completely different.

Of course, if you consider the entire surface attack force as a single formation, then they also constitute a formation.

Aircraft carriers don't have to be close to LHDs to engage in the same battle. Their fighters fly in quickly to provide the air cover. To use an old example, battle of Okinawa involved 12 fleet carriers.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Latest on the Type 076 as posted today on TWZ:

China’s Type 076 Supersized Amphibious Assault Ship Heads To Sea On Its Maiden Voyage

Sea trials are a big step for the unique Type 076, which features a catapult for launching fixed-wing unmanned aircraft.

www.twz.com

 

[chinasun]

Sichuan amphibious assault ship conducts maiden sea trial! 3 Key Highlights Draw Attention!​

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[cir]

The LHD is designed for amphibious landing operations. A key characteristic of this tactic is its close proximity to the target, typically within a few to tens of kilometers.

This is also reflected in the LHD's design.
This distance makes it vulnerable to land-based artillery fire. LHDs employ two engine systems spaced far apart. This is to ensure continued operation even if its engines are attacked. The downside is that the two smokestacks result in a long island superstructure.

Aircraft carriers, in actual combat, are typically far from their targets. They are well beyond the range of land-based artillery (ignoring missile range).

There is a significant difference in the operational range of these two types of warships.

If facing a weaker enemy, then you can operate with almost any strategy.

If facing an evenly matched enemy, then neither type of warship can be deployed simultaneously in a formation.

In an evenly matched situation, the carrier strike group advances to strike. The LHD will only begin its amphibious assault once the carrier strike group has gained air and sea superiority and the battle line is close to the enemy's land border. By the time the LHD begins its amphibious assault, the carrier strike group has already commenced its deep strike mission.

Their attack missions and attack waves are completely different.

Of course, if you consider the entire surface attack force as a single formation, then they also constitute a formation.

Pardon . 611 & 611??

yes, one of which being:

 

[yusheng]

Several Facts About the Type 076: The Gap Between China and the U.S. Is Clear at a Glance!

1. In early 2023, the dock for building the Type 076 was not yet completed. This means that from the start of its construction in the dock to its launch, it took just over a year. Then, in less than another year, it began sea trials!
2. The U.S.'s newest amphibious assault ship, the Bougainville, was launched in September 2023 and has yet to begin sea trials. At that time, the Type 076 had just started construction. In other words, in the time it took the U.S. to outfit an older amphibious assault ship, China was able to build and fully outfit a brand-new electromagnetic catapult-equipped amphibious assault ship!
3. In August 2020, the Type 075 conducted its first sea trial. At that time, the U.S. still had 10 active amphibious assault ships. Five years later, China has commissioned four Type 075s and one Type 076 undergoing sea trials, while the number of active U.S. amphibious assault ships has decreased to just nine!

The changes in the quantity and technology of amphibious assault ships, to some extent, reflect the shifting balance of military strength between China and the U.S.!

 

[yusheng]

The CCTV commentary clearly stated that the Sichuan ship can carry fixed-wing aircraft .

076 Sichuan ship may have more advanced landing assistance facilities rather than the Fresnel lens, the fixed-wing aircraft it carries are most likely drones or something else.

it has reserved space for the size of the catapult and the configuration of the electromagnetic arrestor cables that may support the operation of manned aircraft if needed.

 

[Aziqbal]

the Type 076 is more advanced than America Class

it has a well deck and has EMALS and overall is a more capable ship

it can do amphibious operations and air cover and air support

America Class has F35B a great equaliser

but if China can launch J35 from Type 076 then I would put the Chinese warships above the USN

a great move by China to install EMALS on Type 076 in the absence of a VTOL aircraft

also the twin island design just adds to the complexity and yet China has mastered this complex warship with ease

now here is one point

if Type 076 can launch KJ-600 AWACS it can basically provide fixed wing AWACS cover to CV-16 and CV-17 which they lack

another words Type 076 can act as a force multiplier to CV16 and CV17

 

[Michael]

The Type 076 LHD (Sichuan) has completed its maiden sea trials. Come back home!


This is official news.

Automatic translation by software:
This afternoon at approximately 5 PM, the Navy's Sichuan warship successfully returned to the shipyard after completing its first three-day sea trial. During the trial, a series of tests were conducted on the Sichuan's power, electrical, and other systems, achieving the expected results. Subsequent tests will be carried out gradually according to the overall equipment construction plan.