Sam6536
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Read the article. Also where it's deployed.
It's a drone obviously it can be countered.
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It's a drone obviously it can be countered.
iblini
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ok there is day and night difference between drones let me remind you, a full spectrum stealth tailess platform is hundred more times harder to spot and lock on compared with a MQ9 type.
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You do realize that China has a dedicated Western Theater Command just to counter India right? Anything deployed within that command is for you guys.
Sam6536
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Yes it is harder to detect not impossible though.
Also India is in the process of inducting its own variant of stealth type drones. Idk if we use any foreign drones of this type.
Thus i said counter deployment. We aren't gonna fix a war anytime soon this is just posturing.
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iblini
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Ghakta is decade away, the only possibility of foreign option in this category is French neuron (attack version), and I don't have to mentioned about other platforms like those two huge flying wing HALE, which are part of the country's sixth gen grand project.
The thing is, you should know better than any outsider, you guys even lack in all type of basic platform like AWEC, EW aircraft, EW fighter jet Growler, and all other types of special mission aircraft.
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It's the problem with these Chinese folks! They leave nothing to chances....
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China mass producing next-gen quantum radar detector to track stealth aircraft like F-22
‘Photon catcher’ can detect smallest unit of energy and is seen as paving way for major projects like quantum communication networks
Zhang Tongin Beijing
Published: 9:00am, 14 Oct 2025Updated: 2:09pm, 14 Oct 2025
China announced it has begun mass producing the world’s first ultra-low noise, single-photon detector featuring four channels, suggesting that powerful applications loom in everything from daily communications to national defence.
Dubbed the “photon catcher”, the device can detect a single photon – the smallest unit of energy – making it a core component in cutting-edge technologies such as quantum communication and quantum radar for stealth aircraft detection and tracking.
The feat was achieved by the Quantum Information Engineering Technology Research Centre in Anhui province and reported last Friday by Science and Technology Daily, a publication of China’s Ministry of Science and Technology.
According to the newspaper, China, through its mass production, has achieved self-sufficiency and international leadership in the core components for quantum information technology.
A single-photon detector, as the name suggests, is an ultra-sensitive device capable of detecting individual photons.
The new detector could track stealth aircraft like F-22 Raptor fighter jets. Photo: US Department of Defence
When the human eye views an image, countless photons enter the eye simultaneously. Isolating just one photon has been described as akin to distinguishing the sound of a single grain of sand falling amid a thunderstorm.
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China producing ‘world-first’ quantum radars to track US stealth jets like F-22
The US has recently given the go-ahead for the Navy’s sixth-generation fighter jet with enhanced capabilities.
Updated: Oct 14, 2025 06:51 AM ESTChina has reportedly started the mass production of a photon detector that can help build quantum radars to track advanced stealth fighters like the F-22 Raptor jet.
Beijing claims that it is the “world’s first” ultra-low noise, single-photon detector with four channels, and its use can extend from communication to defense.
The photon catcher, according to a report by the South China Morning Post (SCMP), is capable of detecting even a single particle of the unit of energy.
The device built by the Quantum Information Engineering Technology Research Center in Anhui province could prove detrimental for stealth jets.
Sensitive photon detector
The photon catcher is described as an ultra-sensitive device that can even detect individual photons. The SCMP report states that its mass production will allow Beijing to attain self-sufficiency in developing key components for quantum information technology.When humans view an object, there are countless photons that enter the eye together to form one image. Separating a single photon has been described as a feat equivalent to differentiating between the sound of a single grain of sand falling while heavy rains and lightning strikes occur.
The ability to detect even a single photon is a rare one, and it will lead to even the tiniest signals being detected and tracked. This is a core component of quantum communication and radar technology.
Quantum radars can detect stealth jets, as per claims
Most stealth jets in use today, like the F-22 or F-35 fighters from the US, rely on special external coating and internal weapons bay, among other changes in plane design, to absorb or deflect the signals sent out by traditional radars.While stealth jets have various tricks to evade traditional radars with some success, the quantum radars might prove to be a game changer in the long run. They send out photons whose quantum properties changes once they hit the stealth aircraft.
This means that even the false signals generated by the aircraft would not be able to match the properties of the photons emitted by quantum radars.
Once the single unit photons reach the radar after hitting the stealth aircraft, they are studied, thereby revealing the position of the stealth jets.
Moreover, it is also claimed that the quantum radars will consume less power and can be deployed easily on many types of platforms. It also promises to improve detection of low-visibility targets.
Years ago, China had developed a quantum radar system with a detection range of approximately 62 miles (100 kilometers). The new four-channel single photon detector can enhance its capabilities, leading to detection from as many light sources or different parts of the source as possible.
In the world of radar detection, it improves the simultaneous detection and tracking ability and also greatly boosts the imaging rate. The system will also run on and emit less energy than traditional radar systems, making it difficult to detect.
China claims that the new four-channel detector is only one-ninth the size of the other single-channel products available in the world.
Going forward, the scientists plan to provide homegrown solutions for quantum communication networks and more.
The details about the photon catcher are available in the Science and Technology Daily, which is published by China’s Ministry of Science and Technology.
Advanced jets with enhanced capabilities
The US has recently given the go-ahead for the Navy’s sixth-generation fighter jet with enhanced capabilities, as per a report by Reuters. The US Air Force also hopes to get its first sixth-generation F-47 up in the air by 2028. Boeing has already started working on the jet.Countries around the globe are planning to build faster, bigger, and more stealthy jets which can carry out operations undetected. Therefore, this quantum radar advancement claim by China can raise the worry for US and its allies which are developing the sixth-generation jets for air dominance.
China mass producing quantum radars to track US stealth jets
While stealth jets have various tricks to evade traditional radars, the quantum radars might prove to be a game-changer in a war between the US and China.
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Z-20J shipborne helicopter makes debut at China Helicopter Exposition
17-Oct-2025China's Z-20J shipborne helicopter, an optimized variant of the Z-20 tactical utility helicopter, made its debut at the ongoing 7th China Helicopter Exposition, which opened in north China's Tianjin Municipality on Thursday.
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China’s Z-20 ‘Tactical Assault’ Chopper Spotted In Tianjin Ahead Of Exposition; Designer Claims Edge Over U.S. Black Hawks
October 15, 2025
China’s Z-20T attack helicopter, believed to be an answer to the US UH-60 Black Hawk, was seen in Tianjin for the 7th China Helicopter Exposition that is set to kick off on October 16.
Multiple types of Chinese PLA Army helicopters arrived in China’s Tianjin Municipality on October 12 to participate in the 7th China Helicopter Exposition. These include the Z-10 attack helicopter, the Z-20 utility helicopter, and the Z-20T assault helicopter, which is making its debut at the event.
The expo is being co-hosted by the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) and the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) forces.
The Z-20T was unveiled at the September 3 Victory Day Parade, where seven of these attack helicopters formed a triangular aerial flag-bearing echelon. It will now be showcased at the expo that runs through October 19 and is anticipated to make its first formal flight at the helicopter exposition event.
The Z-20T is the latest addition to the Z-20 helicopter series. The new helicopter is based on the baseline Z-20 and has transport and fire assault capabilities, as noted by China Military Bugle, the official press account of the Chinese armed forces.
The “T” designation in the name of the chopper stands for “Tactical Assault.”
The Z-20T variant enhances the base Z-20’s transport capabilities with offensive weaponry, making it suitable not only for air assault but also for close air support, special operations, and fire suppression during troop insertions.
It is not a dedicated attack helicopter like the Z-10 but rather a hybrid “gunship transport” that supports airborne insertions in contested environments, as per reports in the state media.
Earlier, Chinese pilot Zhang Jiayang told Global Times that this new variant includes a set of small wings that can carry a variety of weaponry, including a host of anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs) like the KD-10, among other potent and lethal munitions. According to China Military Bugle, the Z-20T also has a targeting and observation system in the nose that can supply information to enable accurate strikes.
The assault variant emerged in the early 2020s as part of the Z-20 family’s expansion into specialized roles. It was first teased in concept models around 2021 and later featured in reports by 2024.
More recently, in March 2025, reports in the state broadcaster CCTV indicated that it had entered active service with PLA Ground Forces (PLAGF) units and was undergoing high-intensity training for special operations.
The Z-20T is optimized for China’s diverse terrains, from Tibetan plateaus to maritime operations. Earlier this month, a Z-20T assault helicopter was seen carrying a PL-90 air-to-air missile, as pointed out by PLA observers, including Andreas Rupprecht.
The Z-20T excels in air assault, special operations, reconnaissance, rescue, anti-terrorism, psychological operations, battlefield infiltration, rapid personnel deployment/extraction under fire, and close air support.
The modularity of the Z-20T would allow quick switches between armed strikes and transport modes, with enhanced situational awareness from Electro Optic or Infrared sensors and avionics. The Z-20T focuses on ground-based PLA Army tasks. The high-altitude performance and defensive suites aboard the chopper make it resilient in contested environments.
Notably, the Z-20 family, including the T variant, is positioned as China’s indigenous response to the US Sikorsky UH-60. Developed by the Harbin Aircraft Industry Group since 2006, it shares a similar design, size, layout, and performance capabilities with the Black Hawk, including a maximum takeoff weight of around 10 tons and multi-role functions.
The Z-20T is optimized for attack and fire support missions, similar to the armed variants of the US Black Hawk.
In November last year, Beijing unveiled the Z-20J, a navalized version of the Z-20. The helicopter is specifically for shipboard operations, capable of rapid deployment in both offensive and defensive maritime missions.
Since the Z-20J can be fitted with guns, rockets, and air-to-ground missiles to provide efficient fire support against land targets, it is considered crucial for amphibious maritime operations. The Z-20J is a multipurpose aircraft capable of conducting search and rescue missions and aerial transport.
While both Z-20J and the Z-20T are armed variants of the chopper, they are designed for different mission sets, with Z-20J being a naval variant, whereas the ‘T’ variant is a specialized assault aircraft operated by the ground forces.
The Uncanny Resemblance Between Z-20 & UH-60
The Z-20T stems from the broader Z-20 program, which began in 2006 as China’s “10-ton helicopter project” to create an indigenous medium-lift utility helicopter capable of high-altitude operations in mountainous regions. The baseline Z-20’s first flight occurred on December 23, 2013, and it entered service on October 1, 2019.There have been talks about potential upgrades for Z-20 for some time, and Beijing has already churned out different variants for specific roles.
While the Z-20 is believed to be a Black Hawk analog, China has been accused of reverse engineering the American chopper to develop the Z-20, as reported by the EurAsian Times on several occasions.
China is alleged to have accessed the technology when the helicopter was deployed to and left behind in Pakistan, during Operation Neptune Spear, which was conducted to hunt down Al Qaeda terrorist Osama Bin Laden.
On May 2, 2011, the US military deployed customized versions of Black Hawks to conceal their radar and infrared signatures during its operation to attack Osama Bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.
Unfortunately, one of these choppers crashed during the mission.
The US military quickly destroyed it with explosives before leaving the area, but the tail of the helicopter was later recovered by the Pakistani authorities.
Soon after the raid, allegations surfaced that Pakistan had allowed Chinese engineers to examine the wreckage of the stealth Black Hawk. According to reports, Chinese officials were permitted to take photographs and samples of the components used in the stealthy Black Hawk. While this could not be independently verified, there is an uncanny resemblance between the Z-20 and the UH-60.
When China displayed the stealth variant of the Z-20 for the first time, some analysts surmised that it had a ‘trapezoidal airframe,’ similar to “the earliest US stealth Hawk studies”.
The allegation was also based on the fact that Pakistan had seized the tail of the downed stealth Black Hawk, which demonstrated considerable use of composite materials to reduce noise, weight, and radar signatures. These claims have been dismissed by the Chinese state media.
Islamabad returned the wreckage after three weeks of intense diplomacy.
Despite their similarities, there is a clear distinction between the two in some aspects, including their cockpit, tail layouts, and rotor designs. The Z-20 has five rotors, compared to the Black Hawk’s four, and it now appears that the Chinese helicopter is also equipped with a satellite communications array. On its part, Beijing claims the Z-20 has proven its mettle as a strong helicopter since its maiden flight.
Z-20’s chief designer, Deng Jinghui, was earlier quoted as saying: “The Z-20 is a fourth-generation helicopter with many technologies the Black Hawk does not have, including a fly-by-wire (FBW) flight control system, which is a typical characteristic to make a helicopter ranking among the fourth generation.”
Separately, Chen Guang, vice general manager of AVICOPTER, the helicopter branch of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), had earlier stressed advanced features (and differences with the Black Hawk) like active noise and vibration control, an indigenous turboshaft engine that can support flight in high altitude, low oxygen environments, low noise rotor design, and aerodynamic rotor shapes that are considered advanced even in Western aviation industry circles.
That said, China’s operation of new, specialised variants of Z-20 demonstrates that its aviation capability is undergoing a significant expansion.
China's Z-20 'Tactical Assault' Chopper Spotted In Tianjin Ahead Of Exposition; Designer Claims Edge Over U.S. Black Hawks
China’s Z-20T attack helicopter, believed to be an answer to the US UH-60 Black Hawk, was seen in Tianjin for the 7th China Helicopter Exposition that is set to kick off on October 16. Multiple types of Chinese PLA Army helicopters arrived in China’s Tianjin Municipality on October 12 to...
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