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Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive Edge

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Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive Edge

by Bob Seals

Best turn it into a bigger warIm afraid you really ought to send more troops to the SouthDont be afraid of U.S. intervention, at most its no worse than having another Korean War. The Chinese army is prepared, and if America takes the risk of attacking North Vietnam, the Chinese army will march in at once. Our troops want a war now.
-- Mao speaking to the North Vietnamese in 1964

So why did the powerful modern nations of France and the United States lose two wars in Vietnam to a third rate military power like North Vietnam? This is the logical question that many historians have asked and attempted to answer since the Second Vietnam War ended in April 1975 with the fall of Saigon to North Vietnamese tanks.

This Chinese military support, to include equipment, advisors and planning assistance, provided from 1949-1975, would prove in both the First and Second Indochina Wars to be decisive. This substantial military support would give the Peoples Army of Vietnam an edge to resist Western forces and eventually subjugate the Republic of South Vietnam. This support, for various reasons, has never really been acknowledged by most popular histories of the conflict.

This is perhaps due to the fact that such acknowledgement of the massive Chinese military support provided challenges many cherished myths of Vietnamese Communist military brilliance and the heroic struggle against overwhelming western imperialists. Two recent histories bear this out. Case in point A Military History of China, edited by David A. Graff makes no mention of Chinese support for Vietnam while Bruce A. Ellemans Modern Chinese Warfare, 1795-1989, dismisses Chinese support in a mere two sentences.

However, unless this decisive Chinese support is properly understood by students of both Vietnam wars the answer to the question of why North Vietnam won will remain incomplete and misunderstood. This paper will attempt to outline the Chinese communist support in both wars and explain exactly why this support was so decisive.

China communist Party and North Vietnam power signed up agreements about PLA sent troops to Vietnam fight against American imperialist in 1965. At the same year, PLA send air defensive missile force, air defensive artillery, engineering force, railways troops, sweep mine team and shipping fleet and so on support North Vietnam. And carried on battle and supported tasks.

Chia total sent 320,000 troops to support North Vietnam until 1968 March, At the same time, China provided numerous military equipments and battle supplies. Include 170 planes, 140 ships and 500 tanks, 16000 trucks, cannon 37000, 2.16 millions guns ,bullets and shells add up to 12800 millions. In additional to these, and trained 6000 persons and technologists, through Vietnam war ,China gave an huge human power, finance, substance assistances for North Vietnam, count in supplies equality more the 20 billion dollars.
 

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How Communist China Helped Vietnam Defeat America​

 

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How America Fought Chinese Troops in Vietnam War​

 

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China told US army not to cross the 17th parallel to fight North Vietnam otherwise China would send combat troops to fight US army head on, and the Americans dared not to fight PLA again as in the Korean war, this pretty much guaranteed that North Vietnam couldn't lose the war. Vietnamese all like to forget and sometimes despise the crucial help China gave Vietnam to win the war because they are ungrateful people and see China as their historical sworn enemy that is blocking their dream of dominating SEA, China should never give free help to Vietnam again with huge cost of blood, sweat and materials. The Americans want to ignore the critical role China played in the Vietnam war because they don't want to feel embarrassed and lost at Chinese hands again as in the Korean war, somehow Americans feel much better to say they lost to the little courageous country Vietnam.
 

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Didn't Chine tried invade communist Vietnam a few years after Americans left, suffered massive casualties and had to withdraw ?
 

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Didn't Chine tried invade communist Vietnam a few years after Americans left, suffered massive casualties and had to withdraw ?
What do you Indian know, it was a planned withdraw from the start. Of course, the war was not that an easy walk for China as the 1962 Sino-India war.
 

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Didn't Chine tried invade communist Vietnam a few years after Americans left, suffered massive casualties and had to withdraw ?
A clash at best, from Feb.17- March 10 1979 , three weeks altogether.
 

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What do you Indian know, it was a planned withdraw from the start. Of course, the war was not that an easy walk for China as the 1962 Sino-India war.
If Vietnamese army, who suffered ten times the casualties as Americans did, in US Vietnam war, were able to inflict massive casualties on Chinese, when they invaded.

Imagine what Americans would have done.
 

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If Vietnamese army, who suffered ten times the casualties as Americans did, in US Vietnam war, were able to inflict massive casualties on Chinese, when they invaded.

Imagine what Americans would have done.
All hypothesis, the real history doesn't happen according to your logic. Massive casualties are what you and Americans believe to make you Indians and Americans feel better since they lost the Vietnam war.
 

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If Vietnamese army, who suffered ten times the casualties as Americans did, in US Vietnam war, were able to inflict massive casualties on Chinese, when they invaded.

Imagine what Americans would have done.
The heavy casualties only in your mind and western media. don't forget China fought US head on barely half a year after PRC was established, when US GDP accounted for 52% of the world total and China was unable to make screws and bolts.
 

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All hypothesis, the real history doesn't happen according to your logic. Massive casualties are what you believe to make you Indians feel better.
His logic is if China can inflict heavy casualties on India in 1962, imagine what incredible casualties Vietnam can inflict on India.
 

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The heavy casualties only in your mind and western media. don't forget China fought US head on barely half a year after PRC was established, when US GDP accounted for 52% of the world total and China was unable to make screws and bolts.
China lost a minimum of 200,000 soldiers in Korean war. Not really something to boast about.
 

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His logic is if China can inflict heavy casualties on India in 1962, imagine what incredible casualties Vietnam can inflict on India.
My logic is, that Chinese boast a lot about their martial prowess in retrospect, but whenever they have fought against a prepared enemy they have suffered massively. Be that against Vietnamese or the Americans.
 

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My logic is, that Chinese boast a lot about their martial prowess in retrospect, but whenever they have fought against a prepared enemy they have suffered massively. Be that against Vietnamese or the Americans.
Suffered massively in your delusional Indian mind. The US, UN and South Korean armies altogether that fought the Chinese army in the Korean war lost as many men as PLA if not more. Your Indian army was well prepared in 1962 to invade Chinese Tibet, what happened then ? Losers always like to defame their opponents. Yeah, you Indians always win at the keyboards while unable to win in battles.
 
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My logic is, that Chinese boast a lot about their martial prowess in retrospect, but whenever they have fought against a prepared enemy they have suffered massively. Be that against Vietnamese or the Americans.
How did China suffer massively against Vietnam? China trashed their country for invading cambodia and set their country back 20years with minimum casualities. That is 10x more then what Vietnam bargained for. You seem to not know real history and making up 'massive casualties' as you go along.
 

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