Dear Irani friends let's say the final words

[LeGenD]

forget B2 and F-35, the old Hornets don't go near Yemen or they get shot down very quickly.

All US 'air strikes' on Yemen are being carried out using tomawaks and JSSM's or other ALCM's from standoff range, and they are just pin pricks.

Literally no American jet fighter lost inside Yemen and Hornets are involved in strikes inside Yemen on a regular basis (workhorse). Houthi have managed to down some MQ9 class drones at best but these are much less protected than sophisticated jet fighters. American Air Power is comprehensive and very advanced on a broader level. There should be a basic understanding of these themes before posting.

 

[ShapurII]

Let's say we signed a deal with the US in the most optimistic scenario for Iran:
i) We kept our enriched uranium inside Iran and put it under IAEA supervision.
ii) We stopped enrichment above 3.5% and limited it to an amount that is enough only to replace our existing stockpile that gets slowly diluted down to 3.5%.
iii) And we did all of this after the US released all of our blocked funds and lifted all sanctions.

Sounds like the best scenario for Iran, right?

OK. So, what now? What kind of guarantee does Iran have that the US will not use the military option after the deal?

 

[Respect4Respect]

Let's say we signed a deal with the US in the most optimistic scenario for Iran:
i) We kept our enriched uranium inside Iran and put it under IAEA supervision.
ii) We stopped enrichment above 3.5% and limited it to an amount that is enough only to replace our existing stockpile that gets slowly diluted down to 3.5%.
iii) And we did all of this after the US released all of our blocked funds and lifted all sanctions.

Sounds like the best scenario for Iran, right?

OK. So, what now? What kind of guarantee does Iran have that the US will not use the military option after the deal?

no matter what you do, Zionists will always go for Muslims when they get a chance, unless you are ready to become their slaves like UAE, Jordan, Egypt and many other nations.

 

[ShapurII]

no matter what you do, Zionists will always go for Muslims when they get a chance, unless you are ready to become their slaves like UAE, Jordan, Egypt and many other nations.

It is true that the Americans, infested with Zionism, have subdued Muslims nations. But I think nearly every person in Iran prefers to be enslaved by the Americans than the Russians and the Chinese.

At least the US slaves live better.

But that's not the question. The real question is: what do Americans want to leave Iran alone? Surely it's not just our nuclear program, as our nuclear program is no threat to the US.

 

[PakAl]

Let's say we signed a deal with the US in the most optimistic scenario for Iran:
i) We kept our enriched uranium inside Iran and put it under IAEA supervision.
ii) We stopped enrichment above 3.5% and limited it to an amount that is enough only to replace our existing stockpile that gets slowly diluted down to 3.5%.
iii) And we did all of this after the US released all of our blocked funds and lifted all sanctions.

Sounds like the best scenario for Iran, right?

OK. So, what now? What kind of guarantee does Iran have that the US will not use the military option after the deal?

No gurantees and the Usa/Israel do not forgive their enemies or those who want to be independent from their control. Look at Russia, Putin would love to be in the west camp but they do not allow him, Putin needs to sell Russia, make russia submit to the west and then they will accept Russia, Iran needs to sell its independent, their soul to the devil, allow complete western control and influence. The nukes etc are just an excuse, even if Iran becomes a super power tomorrow, they will still not want to fight the west because Iran is just one country and Nato Quad is huge, Iran wants to be friends but west wants to enslave them.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

At best they can bomb some parts in Iran

Or support Kurdish separatists or Balouch separatists against Iran

And Iran will flatten their bases and destroy their navy

Nothing more they can do

Under no circumstances do I see Iran destroying the US Navy.

If there is a sudden repositioning of US naval assets outside the Persian Gulf, you can assume something is definitely up.

 

[ShapurII]

No gurantees and the Usa/Israel do not forgive their enemies or those who want to be independent from their control. Look at Russia, Putin would love to be in the west camp but they do not allow him, Putin needs to sell Russia, make russia submit to the west and then they will accept Russia, Iran needs to sell its independent, their soul to the devil, allow complete western control and influence. The nukes etc are just an excuse, even if Iran becomes a super power tomorrow, they will still not want to fight the west because Iran is just one country and Nato Quad is huge, Iran wants to be friends but west wants to enslave them.

I disagree with the last part of your assessment though. The rest is sound.

Since the revolution, Iran has never sent friendship signals to the US. Even now, Iran insists on indirect negotiations for a reasons.
Chanting "Marg bar Amrika" for nearly half a century almost every week after burning the US flag down on Friday prayers is not a very friendly signal.

The Taliban have decided to cooperate with the Americans. It is not entirely impossible for the Ayatollahs of Iran to do the same. But what would be the nature of this cooperation?

I personally think that the return of the Americans to our oil and gas industries could benefit the Americans and the Iranian public. And it may prevent them from launching a military campaign against us. I don't think the US is capable of, or even stupid enough, to think of an all-out war with Iran. But a number of skirmishes here and there seems to be very likely at this point and the Iranian economy cannot absorb that at the moment.

 

[PakAl]

It is true that the Americans, infested with Zionism, have subdued Muslims nations. But I think nearly every person in Iran prefers to be enslaved by the Americans than the Russians and the Chinese.

At least the US slaves live better.

But that's not the question. The real question is: what do Americans want to leave Iran alone? Surely it's not just our nuclear program, as our nuclear program is no threat to the US.

They want end of Ayatullah government, end of support to resistance and Shia islamism, instead they will want Iran to become westernised, even if Iran is Islamic they want western style of islamist, all Moderist, no honour, values, morals, iran must submit to Israel, accept them as new daddy in the region. Even this will not be enough, they will then want to use Iran against Pakistan China Russia etc, be a tissue paper like some Muslims countries.

 

[Waz]

Who pashto?

There are only two pashto here bhai

@Mirzali Khan @RealNapster

Nobody else dat I know of who is real Pashto here.......

No there is a lot more.

 

[PakAl]

Under no circumstances do I see Iran destroying the US Navy.

If there is a sudden repositioning of US naval assets outside the Persian Gulf, you can assume something is definitely up.

I agree. Usa is way more advanced than people think, this is why Russia and China don't dare to challenge them, they know the real power.

 

[ShapurII]

They want end of Ayatullah government, end of support to resistance and Shia islamism, instead they will want Iran to become westernised, even if Iran is Islamic they want western style of islamist, all Moderist, no honour, values, morals, iran must submit to Israel, accept them as new daddy in the region. Even this will not be enough, they will then want to use Iran against Pakistan China Russia etc, be a tissue paper like some Muslims countries.

They know they are not going to get that. Obviously, that's their ideal but Americans are not stupid.

They don't have this sort of relationship with Saudi Arabia and Turkey and they know for sure that they won't get that with Iran.

Americans have proven to be far more flexible than we give them credit for. They understand geopolitical nuances quite well. We just need to find a way to tie American interests to stability in Iran. Their current interest is for Iran to remain unstable and get torn apart.

 

[PakAl]

I disagree with the last part of your assessment though. The rest is sound.

Since the revolution, Iran has never sent friendship signals to the US. Even now, Iran insists on indirect negotiations for a reasons.
Chanting "Marg bar Amrika" for nearly half a century almost every week after burning the US flag down on Friday prayers is not a very friendly signal.

The Taliban have decided to cooperate with the Americans. It is not entirely impossible for the Ayatollahs of Iran to do the same. But what would be the nature of this cooperation?

I personally think that the return of the Americans to our oil and gas industries could benefit the Americans and the Iranian public. And it may prevent them from launching a military campaign against us. I don't think the US is capable of, or even stupid enough, to think of an all-out war with Iran. But a number of skirmishes here and there seems to be very likely at this point and the Iranian economy cannot absorb that at the moment.

I mean if Usa Europe stop their Crusades, then Iran wouldn't mind being friendly, the reason Iran been shouting anti usa slogans is because they knew what the usa and Zionist are doing. The point was, any nation standing alone wouldn't mind being friendly with big powerful blocks, to trade etc but the big blocks want to enslave them, this is the reason. Like for example China is no threat to the Usa, EU and Quad but instead it is they who want to harm China, to stop it's rise.

 

[PakAl]

They know they are not going to get that. Obviously, that's their ideal but Americans are not stupid.

They don't have this sort of relationship with Saudi Arabia and Turkey and they know for sure that they won't get that with Iran.

Americans have proven to be far more flexible than we give them credit for. They understand geopolitical nuances quite well. We just need to find a way to tie American interests to stability in Iran. Their current interest is for Iran to remain unstable and get torn apart.

Well they worked with saudia Arabia to destabilise many muslim countries promoted extremism and terrorism, trapped the nations and then forced them to seek their help, then slowly got involved and controlled them or even regime change those who didn't listen. Usa/west/zionist are very intelligent, they want total dominance.

 

[ShapurII]

I mean if Usa Europe stop their Crusades, then Iran wouldn't mind being friendly, the reason Iran been shouting anti usa slogans is because they knew what the usa and Zionist are doing. The point was, any nation standing alone wouldn't mind being friendly with big powerful blocks, to trade etc but the big blocks want to enslave them, this is the reason. Like for example China is no threat to the Usa, EU and Quad but instead it is they who want to harm China, to stop it's rise.

I don't think the West want to enslave China. They're afraid of China, and rightly so, and they want to keep China impoverished and busy with her own internal problems. That's not something unusual. All rivals do that to each other. Sometimes even so-called friends do that to each other. China and Russia have been doing exactly that to Iran since 2005. Let's not demonize the West as some sort of evil, demonic power that thinks about nothing else but to exert dominance over the world.

Sometimes it's simply a matter of caring for your own interests. And it's extremely rare to find two nations whose interests always align or whose interests always are opposite to each other. There are so many shades of gray in geopolitics. Outside of the issue of Israel, Iran and the US can in fact benefit from cooperation with each other. It's just that we have never tried that option after 1979.

The Shah's regime was a Western puppet but he did a lot of things for the country that we simply haven't been able to do after his fall in 1979. So, it's not just one sided. The Americans did a lot of great things for Iran before our relations soured after the hostage crisis.

 

[SaadH]

At least the US slaves live better.

But that's not the question. The real question is: what do Americans want to leave Iran alone? Surely it's not just our nuclear program, as our nuclear program is no threat to the US.

Egyptians and Pakistanis will disagree with that assessment