DeepSeek, China's AI model: News & Discussion

[ChillVein]

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[神威98]

I feel like Deepseek gotten dumber. Sure you can now have threads of almost unlimited length whereas the chat length was capped before. But I asked Deepseek the same questions as last year and now it replies it doesn't know what I'm talking about or there is no info on this topic.

What I still don't understand is, the knowledge base of Deepseek seems to have surpassed Google search engine. It seems Deepseek knows anything about everything. How is this possible when Deepseek is only a small team of (software) engineers and an offshoot of some hedge fund? Where does the knowledge base of Deepseek actually come from?

I don't mean Deepseek gotten "dumb" dumb but rather "ignorant" dumb.

Last year I went thru pages and pages to discuss a particular topic. This year, I asked Deepseek questions on the same topic. It replies there is no info on the topic I discussed in depth last year with Deepseek. Like what the heck?!?!

 

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The most impressive fact about Zhipu's GLM-5.2 is that it was trained entirely on Huawei Ascend chips

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Chinese AI researchers are the backbone of Chinese and American AI success.

 

[冖_冖]

Days After The Gov Banned Fable 5 China Released GLM 5.2 a SOTA Open-Source & Weight Model

Three days after Anthropic launched Fable 5 as its most capable publicly available model, the US Commerce Department ordered the company to shut it off. The directive, delivered at 5:21 pm ET on June 12, required Anthropic to suspend all access to Fable 5 and its more powerful sibling Mythos 5 for a

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Days After The Gov Banned Fable 5 China Released GLM 5.2 a SOTA Open-Source & Weight Model​

 

[神威98]

USA gonna come down on Deepseek the same way they came down on TikTok USA. They are not backing down now becoz they fear China retaliation or anything remotely like that.

They don't want any external market shocks to affect their fragile SpaceX IPO. China retaliating for Deepseek ban would not only hurt the USA stock market but SpaceX IPO the most. (It's not that SpaceX relies on Deepseek, but any kind of small market shock can deal a lot of damage to the biggest IPO in world history)

They will be back. They didn't leave TikTok alone after granting some time extensions and they certainly will not leave Deepseek alone after pausing from blacklist addition. When the dust settles on SpaceX shares and USA pockets billions in exchange for toilet paper's worth of stock cerificates, they will be back...

USA's most fragile Achilles heel is their stock valuations. You don't even need to send missiles to the American continent. Just do something to cause their "house of cards" to come crashing down and they will be on their knees begging for mercy...

Their actions like extending TikTock ban and pausing blacklist addition of Deepseek seemed like displaying weakness at the time. But they served their purpose of stalling demise of TikTok USA to buy it out, and preventing Deep seek ban from affecting the stock market hence affecting SpaceX IPO.

USA is no clueless idiot. They show weakness to bide time the same way China would. Only China plans more moves in advance than them becoz her strategy is long-term gain not instant gratification.

(BTW, if you check my posting history, you'll see I was advocating for sale of TikTok USA while most Chinese members were celebrating TikTok given time extension by Trump. Good riddance! TikTok USA just humiliates all Asians by showing the world their CEO loves taking abuse from White man in USA court. Instead of walking away let White man have the trash shell of an app without the inner core algos. IMO, a Deepseek ban is also a just action. Why work for free for White man to enjoy the fruits of your labor?)