Egyptian Armed Forces

[Deino]

It has been proven wrong, the J-10C were carried inside the Y-20 ... they were flown directly:

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[The SC]

Egypt Deployed Chinese HQ-9B SAM​

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[The SC]

Chinese Air Force in Egypt​

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[Ramses Akhenaten Ahmose]

Looks like Egypt is trying to phase out its old Hawkeye systems with the more modern kj-500. I’d bet that since they’re surrounded they have to match their awacs capabilities. Unless what’s the point of training with those specific aircraft

 

[iblini]

Egypt Deployed Chinese HQ-9B SAM​

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is it confirmed???

 

[iblini]

Looks like Egypt is trying to phase out its old Hawkeye systems with the more modern kj-500. I’d bet that since they’re surrounded they have to match their awacs capabilities. Unless what’s the point of training with those specific aircraft

KJ-500 is already a decade old, should go for the latest KJ-700...im joking.

 

[Michael]

KJ-500 is already a decade old, should go for the latest KJ-700...im joking.

The KJ-500/KJ-700 are not licensed for export. Currently, they cannot be exported.

However, China has a new AEW&C for export. It is somewhat different from the KJ-500/KJ-700.

It was designed by CETC specifically for the export market (based on the Y-9 airframe).

 

[Ramses Akhenaten Ahmose]

The KJ-500/KJ-700 are not licensed for export. Currently, they cannot be exported.

However, China has a new AEW&C for export. It is somewhat different from the KJ-500/KJ-700.

It was designed by CETC specifically for the export market (based on the Y-9 airframe).

You seem to know a lot about Chinese weapons. Because they’re relatively new platforms from American and Russian models, I haven’t researched them as much as I have with the others, but do know a little to keep up

 

[Michael]

You seem to know a lot about Chinese weapons. Because they’re relatively new platforms from American and Russian models, I haven’t researched them as much as I have with the others, but do know a little to keep up

1. The development of science and technology is the same. No matter which country's advanced technology is, it contains the shadow of scientific research results from other countries. There is no patent protection/intellectual property constraints in the field of military research. It only depends on whether you have the ability to obtain these technologies, no matter what means you use. There are many such examples, and you can find them easily.

2. China's military technology research and development started very late. Therefore, it is not surprising to find the shadow of weapons technology from other countries in China's advanced weapons. For a long time in the past, we have been learning from countries with advanced military technology such as the Soviet Union/Russia, the United States, and Europe.

3. China's military strategic thinking is completely different from that of Western countries. We will quote Western advanced military technology, but we have our own military strategic thinking. Therefore, the final weapon system is also very different from the Western weapon system.

4. More than ten years ago, we no longer referred to the military technology of the Soviet Union/Russia. We have surpassed them. In recent years, we have found that China's new weapon systems have already appeared in large numbers of military technology that the United States/Europe does not have. Soon, we will also surpass them.

 

[Sami_1]

The KJ-500/KJ-700 are not licensed for export. Currently, they cannot be exported.

However, China has a new AEW&C for export. It is somewhat different from the KJ-500/KJ-700.

It was designed by CETC specifically for the export market (based on the Y-9 airframe).

The KJ-500/KJ-700 are not licensed for export. Currently, they cannot be exported.

However, China has a new AEW&C for export. It is somewhat different from the KJ-500/KJ-700.

It was designed by CETC specifically for the export market (based on the Y-9 airframe).

We don't care about names, but rather about specifications. Pakistan has not expressed its satisfaction with the Chinese early warning aircraft and has preferred to rely on the Swedish one. This is a weak point.
Assuming that countries like Egypt turn to China, we will find that Egypt will initially request modifications to the Y-9 aircraft to match or surpass the American aircraft.
The C-130J will perform as a platform and provide the greatest available power for the Chinese WJ-6 engines, or even replace them with Canadian engines.
The PW-150B will request higher performance for the aircraft and some improvements to the airframe and wings. Now, regarding the Chinese radar and early warning systems, China has the right to retain whatever technology it wants, and no one will object. However, Egypt will also request the highest capabilities it can obtain. For example, Egypt financed several modifications to the MIG-29M aircraft with limited funds at the time. The Russians did not have the capacity to develop an AESA radar in 2015.
This indicates that Egypt is requesting and may fund some modifications.
The American side is now negotiating to provide an arms package to Egypt through the release of the aircraft. Regarding some technologies, they may offer the E-2D aircraft.
Egypt has even opened channels of communication with Sweden, perhaps indirectly via India. Simply put, Egypt is seeking the best available on the international market. Egypt does not place itself at the mercy of an arms supplier who uses it as a pressure tool. Some Chinese believe that Egypt is the sole beneficiary of Chinese arms sales. If the Chinese economy did not benefit, China would increase its international influence through arms sales. China would gain quality assurance through the use of an Egyptian Air Force known for its efficient weapon selection, and many countries follow its lead in arms procurement. If Egypt does not find what meets its requirements, it will seek other solutions. China's main advantage is not its superior weapons, as some imagine, but rather the speed of supply. Simply put, Egypt wants to obtain AEW aircraft by 2027.
Because the replacement date for the aging E-2C aircraft is set, the amount allocated to purchase eight aircraft could exceed $2 billion. In the event of cooperation with China, Egypt could obtain 12 aircraft, eight of which are AEW aircraft, and the others work in the fields of electronic warfare and maritime patrol. International relations are mutually beneficial. If countries like Egypt, Brazil, Turkey, and Nigeria hadn't opened their markets to Chinese products over the past forty years, China would now be the world's strongest economy. The entire world doesn't even want Chinese control, so cooperation with countries like India, Indonesia, and Vietnam is necessary and inevitable, and even expanding cooperation with them. Asian countries, once they become superpowers, commit crimes against other countries much more brutally than other countries. We saw how the Japanese dealt with the enslavement of Southeast Asian countries, and China has committed mass genocides throughout its history. This demonstrates the obvious Asian violence, whenever the opportunity arises, to carry it out mercilessly. This is a tool the West uses against China. They are more merciful than the Chinese. Therefore, balancing cooperation with many countries and not focusing on a single country is one of the tools of the Egyptian leadership's failure. They have not expanded cooperation with Asian countries and have focused primarily on China, even though other countries are more important. This does not place Egypt within the circle of future pressure from a country like China. Therefore, we always demand the creation of industrial and investment zones for countries. Asian countries and not relying solely on China, Russia, and India. Furthermore, cooperation with China presents a trade imbalance. China's exports are four times those of Egypt. Therefore, this may be one of the constraints on purchasing weapons from a country with a significant trade imbalance.

Let's return to the basic points: early warning aircraft are platforms that serve countries for long periods. Therefore, Egypt is carefully studying its options and ensuring that there are no obstacles to obtaining spare parts and continuity of operation for long periods without pressure from suppliers. It also guarantees continuous development, as they are the eyes of the air force within monitoring and warning systems, as well as the command of fighter squadrons. Therefore, the matter is sensitive for Egypt and must be carefully studied.

No one has said that the Chinese early warning aircraft is the best, so that the Chinese and others begin imposing conditions. Rather, it is one of the options, and Egypt is conducting international tenders to obtain the best available. For example, if the Swedish platforms are used with a larger aircraft, they will provide more efficient equipment than what is currently used. Even exported aircraft, such as the Saab GlobalEye AEW&C, are negotiating improved versions to ensure high reliability and have a strong presence in various countries. There is no doubt about this, unlike the Chinese aircraft, which must prove themselves, especially since the versions exported to Pakistan did not satisfy customers, and even forced Pakistanis to look for other aircraft, even if with lesser capabilities. This is despite the fact that the Chinese aircraft were sold to Pakistan at an extremely low price. Therefore, we reiterate that Egypt does not reject cooperation with China, but rather opens the door to expansion, but on win-win terms for both parties. Egypt seeks the best value-for-money factories that meet its national security. When Egypt seeks weapons, it seeks the best. The criteria for acceptance and non-rejection in the supply of technology, some of which are prohibited, are subject to change. We will give very simple examples. When France introduced aircraft like the Rafale, other international competitors were forced to provide fighters with better AESA radars. When China exported PL-15 missiles to Pakistan, and the Russians supplied R-77M missiles to some customers, offering R-37M missiles for export, France was forced to provide Meteor missiles, and China was forced to provide missiles. The PL-15, in non-export versions, is restricted to a range of 200 kilometers. That means things are changing.
When the Russians exported the SU-57 fighter jet to its first export customer, this will make other countries' restrictions on fifth-generation fighters less restrictive, for a simple reason: the availability of alternatives. Some believe that restrictions are always immutable, even though in arms exports, what is prohibited today will be permitted tomorrow, and what is permitted today will be prohibited tomorrow.
When Egypt negotiates with France, Korea, and China to develop its domestic aviation industry, each party may prohibit a specific item, while the other party accepts it. Therefore, the flexibility available to Egypt and the availability of diverse sources of technology are a strength for Egypt.

 

[The SC]

is it confirmed???

Not just confirmed..it is deployed already..I guess because of the US spy planes activities along all the shores of Egypt lately on the request of Israel.. Americans also said that Egypt has the HQ-17 and the HQ-18.. you can find a post on it a few pages back..

 

[The SC]

The KJ-500/KJ-700 are not licensed for export. Currently, they cannot be exported.

However, China has a new AEW&C for export. It is somewhat different from the KJ-500/KJ-700.

It was designed by CETC specifically for the export market (based on the Y-9 airframe).

Egypt never buys export versions.. it is always to its own specs..ask Russia..

 

[Ramses Akhenaten Ahmose]

Egypt never buys export versions.. it is always to its own specs..ask Russia..

You think china will go all out for Egypt? Not that I don’t want it to happen, it’s just that these deals are the first and early into strengthening ties

 

[Michael]

We don't care about names, but rather about specifications. Pakistan has not expressed its satisfaction with the Chinese early warning aircraft and has preferred to rely on the Swedish one. This is a weak point.
Assuming that countries like Egypt turn to China, we will find that Egypt will initially request modifications to the Y-9 aircraft to match or surpass the American aircraft.
The C-130J will perform as a platform and provide the greatest available power for the Chinese WJ-6 engines, or even replace them with Canadian engines.
The PW-150B will request higher performance for the aircraft and some improvements to the airframe and wings. Now, regarding the Chinese radar and early warning systems, China has the right to retain whatever technology it wants, and no one will object. However, Egypt will also request the highest capabilities it can obtain. For example, Egypt financed several modifications to the MIG-29M aircraft with limited funds at the time. The Russians did not have the capacity to develop an AESA radar in 2015.
This indicates that Egypt is requesting and may fund some modifications.
The American side is now negotiating to provide an arms package to Egypt through the release of the aircraft. Regarding some technologies, they may offer the E-2D aircraft.
Egypt has even opened channels of communication with Sweden, perhaps indirectly via India. Simply put, Egypt is seeking the best available on the international market. Egypt does not place itself at the mercy of an arms supplier who uses it as a pressure tool. Some Chinese believe that Egypt is the sole beneficiary of Chinese arms sales. If the Chinese economy did not benefit, China would increase its international influence through arms sales. China would gain quality assurance through the use of an Egyptian Air Force known for its efficient weapon selection, and many countries follow its lead in arms procurement. If Egypt does not find what meets its requirements, it will seek other solutions. China's main advantage is not its superior weapons, as some imagine, but rather the speed of supply. Simply put, Egypt wants to obtain AEW aircraft by 2027.
Because the replacement date for the aging E-2C aircraft is set, the amount allocated to purchase eight aircraft could exceed $2 billion. In the event of cooperation with China, Egypt could obtain 12 aircraft, eight of which are AEW aircraft, and the others work in the fields of electronic warfare and maritime patrol. International relations are mutually beneficial. If countries like Egypt, Brazil, Turkey, and Nigeria hadn't opened their markets to Chinese products over the past forty years, China would now be the world's strongest economy. The entire world doesn't even want Chinese control, so cooperation with countries like India, Indonesia, and Vietnam is necessary and inevitable, and even expanding cooperation with them. Asian countries, once they become superpowers, commit crimes against other countries much more brutally than other countries. We saw how the Japanese dealt with the enslavement of Southeast Asian countries, and China has committed mass genocides throughout its history. This demonstrates the obvious Asian violence, whenever the opportunity arises, to carry it out mercilessly. This is a tool the West uses against China. They are more merciful than the Chinese. Therefore, balancing cooperation with many countries and not focusing on a single country is one of the tools of the Egyptian leadership's failure. They have not expanded cooperation with Asian countries and have focused primarily on China, even though other countries are more important. This does not place Egypt within the circle of future pressure from a country like China. Therefore, we always demand the creation of industrial and investment zones for countries. Asian countries and not relying solely on China, Russia, and India. Furthermore, cooperation with China presents a trade imbalance. China's exports are four times those of Egypt. Therefore, this may be one of the constraints on purchasing weapons from a country with a significant trade imbalance.

Let's return to the basic points: early warning aircraft are platforms that serve countries for long periods. Therefore, Egypt is carefully studying its options and ensuring that there are no obstacles to obtaining spare parts and continuity of operation for long periods without pressure from suppliers. It also guarantees continuous development, as they are the eyes of the air force within monitoring and warning systems, as well as the command of fighter squadrons. Therefore, the matter is sensitive for Egypt and must be carefully studied.

No one has said that the Chinese early warning aircraft is the best, so that the Chinese and others begin imposing conditions. Rather, it is one of the options, and Egypt is conducting international tenders to obtain the best available. For example, if the Swedish platforms are used with a larger aircraft, they will provide more efficient equipment than what is currently used. Even exported aircraft, such as the Saab GlobalEye AEW&C, are negotiating improved versions to ensure high reliability and have a strong presence in various countries. There is no doubt about this, unlike the Chinese aircraft, which must prove themselves, especially since the versions exported to Pakistan did not satisfy customers, and even forced Pakistanis to look for other aircraft, even if with lesser capabilities. This is despite the fact that the Chinese aircraft were sold to Pakistan at an extremely low price. Therefore, we reiterate that Egypt does not reject cooperation with China, but rather opens the door to expansion, but on win-win terms for both parties. Egypt seeks the best value-for-money factories that meet its national security. When Egypt seeks weapons, it seeks the best. The criteria for acceptance and non-rejection in the supply of technology, some of which are prohibited, are subject to change. We will give very simple examples. When France introduced aircraft like the Rafale, other international competitors were forced to provide fighters with better AESA radars. When China exported PL-15 missiles to Pakistan, and the Russians supplied R-77M missiles to some customers, offering R-37M missiles for export, France was forced to provide Meteor missiles, and China was forced to provide missiles. The PL-15, in non-export versions, is restricted to a range of 200 kilometers. That means things are changing.
When the Russians exported the SU-57 fighter jet to its first export customer, this will make other countries' restrictions on fifth-generation fighters less restrictive, for a simple reason: the availability of alternatives. Some believe that restrictions are always immutable, even though in arms exports, what is prohibited today will be permitted tomorrow, and what is permitted today will be prohibited tomorrow.
When Egypt negotiates with France, Korea, and China to develop its domestic aviation industry, each party may prohibit a specific item, while the other party accepts it. Therefore, the flexibility available to Egypt and the availability of diverse sources of technology are a strength for Egypt.

Egypt never buys export versions.. it is always to its own specs..ask Russia..

I explained to @iblini that KJ-500/KJ-700 are not for export, and China has another latest AEW&C specifically for export. I am not promoting this AEW&C to Egypt.

This AEW&C model appeared at the Zhuhai Air Show, and CETC is saying to other countries: "If you need AEW&C, you can take a look at this latest AEW&C." It is not targeted at any specific country.
This is a kind of stall selling.
If you like it, you can buy it directly.
If you have special requirements, you can put it forward, and we will try our best to meet your requirements.
If you don't like it, you turn around and leave.
That's it.

You think china will go all out for Egypt?

The relationship between people is mutual, and so is the relationship between countries. It requires the joint efforts of both sides, and it is not a unilateral act.

 

[Ak01]

Egypt never buys export versions.. it is always to its own specs..ask Russia..

own specs like no amraams?