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Be -sharam is making outrageous claims with no proof
Later to be busted in your faces

Like shivangi female Indian pilot of Rafale shot down with plane and captured

Only later to be seen by the entire world at a award ceremony..last month

Any wonder why the world is lining up to buy rafales in hundreds at 200 million each rather than than your chinease j10 at 50million each unless of course your the mighty Bangladesh air force
 
meh_analysis said:
Rafale is super good. It's omnirole, basically a swiss knife of fighter. Not everyone wants a plain air superiority fighter only, the next best thing is from Russia or America. Both extremely hard to work with right now. Other option from Germany/Europe and China are not good enough in other roles plus the Grippen weapon package is not on par with Rafale. Hope this clears it up.
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Even the French Air Force say the Rafale's future role in the NATO coalition is limited to a secondary support role due to the immense gap between the Rafale and current fifth generation fighters. Also its reliability and serviceability stats are poor.

dbc

Thread 'Honest French report on Rafale and its future'

key points in the report:
  • Lack of stealth (VLO) is a key handicap. French forces may be relegated to a supporting role in coalitions, relying on allies with stealth fighters.
  • The Rafale struggles against 5th-gen stealth fighters in exercises; its sensors are insufficient for parity
  • only ~30 of ~ 200 Rafales would be available for sustained high-intensity combat


@BonPlan please help non native French speakers with questions related to the report.
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dbc said:
Even the French Air Force say the Rafale's future role in the NATO coalition is limited to a secondary support role due to the immense gap between the Rafale and current fifth generation fighters. Also its reliability and serviceability stats are poor.

dbc

Thread 'Honest French report on Rafale and its future'

key points in the report:
  • Lack of stealth (VLO) is a key handicap. French forces may be relegated to a supporting role in coalitions, relying on allies with stealth fighters.
  • The Rafale struggles against 5th-gen stealth fighters in exercises; its sensors are insufficient for parity
  • only ~30 of ~ 200 Rafales would be available for sustained high-intensity combat


@BonPlan please help non native French speakers with questions related to the report.
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AHH. That explains why it's the most sold or sought after fighter in the world outside of the F35.

Which incidently can only fly once every 36 hours needs two days of maintenance and stealth coating reapplied
 
harpy1 said:
AHH. That explains why it's the most sold or sought after fighter in the world outside of the F35.

Which incidently can only fly once every 36 hours needs two days of maintenance and stealth coating reapplied
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www.businessinsider.com

F-35 stealth fighter jets are only capable of flying missions a little over half the time, watchdog finds

"Maintenance challenges negatively affect F-35 aircraft readiness," the Government Accountability Office wrote in a new report.
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You see the crap you find
 
nationalinterest.org

France's Dassault Rafale Is the Fighter Now Every Air Force Wants

Summary: The French-made Dassault Rafale is experiencing a surge in global demand, challenging the dominance of the American F-35. Recently, Croatia received its first Rafales, and Serbia announced plans to procure a dozen more. Key Points: -This increased interest, influenced by Russia’s...
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Oh look what I found
 
harpy1 said:
Be -sharam is making outrageous claims with no proof
Later to be busted in your faces

Like shivangi female Indian pilot of Rafale shot down with plane and captured

Only later to be seen by the entire world at a award ceremony..last month

Any wonder why the world is lining up to buy rafales in hundreds at 200 million each rather than than your chinease j10 at 50million each unless of course your the mighty Bangladesh air force
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mera praa


Shivangi landed in Pakistan.
She fell in love with our handsome PAF guys and begged them to take her as a second wife.

Exhibit 1: centre of gravity
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We kindly rejected the advances and returned her back to her own kind.

Exhibit 2: Air Marshmallow Bharturd
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You guys are too easy to troll.
 
harpy1 said:
AHH. That explains why it's the most sold or sought after fighter in the world outside of the F35.

Which incidently can only fly once every 36 hours needs two days of maintenance and stealth coating reapplied
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ah a butt hurt Indian. The most sold fighter in the last five years is the F-16 not the Rafale. The Rafale's selling point is that it is a no strings attached platform outside of US influence. Besides, the French are very generous with kickbacks which is far more important to some countries like India.
 
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Awesome plane with real punch
 
Be dazzled said:
Demand? Ukraine is going for used ones that too funded by US and subsidized by Europe. Like their F16s.
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No I imagine they want European financing for either new Rafales or gripens.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Still interesting the increased demand for the Rafale in light of its recent (lack of) performance.
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Its a pretty good Jet, no doubt.

...its just that...in the hands of Indians...well...

Look at it this way... Prior to the conflict in May, the Rafale had a pretty clean-spotless track record.

Messed with the wrong adversary & now the World's Only & Largest Rafale Used Parts Scrapyard is located in India.
 
READ about the finance behind this deal. The French are dipping into their own funds to provide loans, they are asking the EU to fund it as well, and also want Russian assets to be unfrozen and the money used to purchase the jets.
It's plain the Ukrainians didn't seem to keen to pay for it with their own money.
 
AZ_HighCountry said:
Still interesting the increased demand for the Rafale in light of its recent (lack of) performance.
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Rafale as a fighter jet is still top of the line, but lets give a little credit to PAF pilots and their creating a kill chain strategy which bested the IAF render them useless even with the better fighters.
 
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