Federal cabinet gives nod to imposition of emergency in KP; summary sent to president

[Meengla]

Dear its worse then Balochistan already. At least government in Balochistan isn't in bed with terrorists. Now you will see actual change on ground. Baloch terrorists themselves now depend on TTP/TTA afghandu manpower to carry out terrorism.

The current Chief Minister of Baluchistan Mr. Sarfraz Bugti is probably the best CM that province ever had. Plug the infiltrators from Afghanistan and we will see a difference in the security situation there.

Now about the liberal society argument. God's principles yield the same result all over the universe. Yes, fornication is a big crime and a violation, but it doesn't reflect the professionalism of a person. Also, it is far better than coercion and rape, which are alleged towards many PPP/PMLN politicians and servicemen (police and army).

Look at my profile pic and look at my posts in this forum over the decades: Do you guys ever see me talking in religious terms? At most, some references to religious wars or how different civilizations influenced by religions act differently. But I don't quote any Scriptures nor I talk about condemning personal choices and mistakes. I won't go too much details into what I believe or don't believe in.
BUT... I have a moral/ethical compass for sure. And when I saw Imran deflecting a simple question about Tyrian White, as in that Hamid Mir interview I posted yesterday, and the girl is almost certainly Imran's illegitimate child, it makes my blood boil in rage: A man makes a mistake but a true man owns up to that. Imran not only disowned that poor child but also has Imran's former wife raising that child. Do you think a guy who carries the prayer beads, recites his speeches from the Scriptures, and talks nothing less than founding a Riyasat e Medina could have stooped so low? And he has stooped so low on such matters and one should wonder to what extent he lies through his teeth on daily basis?

 

[Blain2]

Umm, you know better than me you even had local Pashtun tribes fighting the Ts and occasionally even ANA in border skirmishes. You are about to lose that already low local support. Especially after the Tirah debacle recently. Good luck with ops without local support, they have worked wonders in BLN

How and why? Because the Army starts naka-bandi on the IB with Afghanistan? Or that it starts attacking the TTP with greater intensity through IBOs? That would cause heartburn for the denizens of KPK?

Did all of Punjab turn anti-Pakistan because a predominantly Punjabi PML-N was unseated? Or did all of Karachi turn against Pakistan because the government conducted operations against the MQM?

Let's get a grip on the situation. The supporters of TTP are no different than TTP. If what you say is true than the GoP was right all along. That is, the KPK government and PTI are supporting TTP. I don't think that is the case but we will see.

 

[SteppeWolff]

Punjabi army dear, thats what your types call it.

It's Pakistan Army* boy. Take a walk, lagta hay taqleef Boht hui hay. Balochistan khusbhu Laga Kay to nahi chalay gye?

 

[prothought]

Giving ONE person (Field Marshal) lifetime immunity from any criminal prosecution in court as they did in 27th amendment of the Constitution is about "everyone" in Pakistan?

It's not about one person. It's about the office. Also, 27th amendment was done by the parliament of Pakistan. It was an institutional action. You and me and differ with that or taunt/dislike it. Makes no difference at all.

 

[SteppeWolff]

How and why? Because the Army starts naka-bandi on the IB with Afghanistan? Or that it starts attacking the TTP with greater intensity through IBOs? That would cause heartburn for the denizens of KPK?

Did all of Punjab turn anti-Pakistan because a predominantly Punjabi PML-N was unseated? Or did all of Karachi turn against Pakistan because the government conducted operations against the MQM?

Let's get a grip on the situation. The supporters of TTP are no different than TTP. If what you say is true than the GoP was right all along. That is, the KPK government and PTI are supporting TTP. I don't think that is the case but we will see.

Punjab never had Random ass Ops like recently in Tirah where entire villages were uprooted deep in winters and knee deep snow. Jinkay bachay boorhay baraf may Jammay aur zaleel hogye wo to iqhtilaaf rakhain gay no?

 

[prothought]

Pakistan as a country ultimately belongs to its people and not ONLY to its military establishment:

'...Pakistanis have taken to the streets to protest my father’s release...'

The biggest lie of the week.

 

[Goenitz]

. Imran not only disowned that poor child but also has Imran's former wife raising that child. Do you think a guy who carries the prayer beads, recites his speeches from the Scriptures, and talks nothing less than founding a Riyasat e Medina could have stooped so low?

Yes. Every saint has a past. A man can change.
Again, inheritance, including ownership, lies to mother and her relatives.
Lastly, you can get angry, defy, or disagree on anything you consider a core issue (very subjective), even like why IK wear sandals or eat paratha. If Tyran is an ultimate litmus test for you, I don't mind.
However, then everyone you support or oppose comes through that merit funnel.

 

[Goenitz]

inkay bachay boorhay baraf may Jammay aur zaleel hogye wo to iqhtilaaf rakhain gay no?

I remember. A kid died because of simple pneumonia due to that cold.

 

[Blain2]

Punjab never had Random ass Ops like recently in Tirah where entire villages were uprooted deep in winters and knee deep snow. Jinkay bachay boorhay baraf may Jammay aur zaleel hogye wo to iqhtilaaf rakhain gay no?

Punjab also did not let terrorists of all hue and color move inland from a neighboring country.

Second, while it was unfortunate that some families suffered, they were spared from the fighting. The GoP will have to do better than before but do you really think that the TTP tashkeels magically operate from within KPK?

Obviously some people are abetting and supporting them and that causes problems for the larger population in the province.

 

[SteppeWolff]

I remember. A kid died because of simple pneumonia due to that cold.

One of many such cases unfortunately. Alot here just don't know or willingly act oblivious. Tirah Kay log Pakistani nahi thay to be deserving basic respect? Then they act all shocked why people resist military ops. Pichlay 20 Saal kay Ops ka result Kiya hay?

 

[El Sidd]

Yes. Let's reward them by me and you accepting the ghair maqami label wholeheartedly and happily.

Technically everyone is ghair in Pakistan. They have a migrant background just like you minus tribal protection.

 

[SteppeWolff]

Punjab also did not let terrorists of all hue and color move inland from a neighboring country.

Second, while it was unfortunate that some families suffered, they were spared from the fighting. The GoP will have to do better than before but do you really think that the TTP tashkeels magically operate from within KPK?

Obviously some people are abetting and supporting them and that causes problems for the larger population in the province.

Punjab also wasn't the Frontline against Soviet Jihad where entire populations were indoctrinated. Ye kyun mention krna bhool jaate ho aap?

To a hammer everything looks like a nail

 

[SteppeWolff]

They have a migrant background just like you minus tribal protection.

El Sidd Bhai Allah ka shukar hay bas. Ap bhi moqa dain apko bhi tribal mehmaan nawazi dikhaye rora. The common folks are great people unlike what alot of the folks in this forum say

 

[Blain2]

I remember. A kid died because of simple pneumonia due to that cold.

A 4 year old child also died in the TTP suicide bombing at the Police Line masjid.

So what is the state to do? Surrender to Mullah Akhunzada, hand over KPK to be run by TTP? I have maintained, PTI tried to appease them. TTP Is something that cannot be appeased. It is an expansive, malignant tumor by its very nature.

Just like TTP mass murdered ANP leadership, if things are let to run their course, the exact same will happen with the PTI leadership.

 

[Meengla]

Yes. Every saint has a past. A man can change.
Again, inheritance, including ownership, lies to mother and her relatives.
Lastly, you can get angry, defy, or disagree on anything you consider a core issue (very subjective), even like why IK wear sandals or eat paratha. If Tyran is an ultimate litmus test for you, I don't mind.
However, then everyone you support or oppose comes through that merit funnel.

Well then, the founder of the New Pakistan is the same as the others, right. But I am not aware of such cowards in other corrupt politicians who disowns their illegitimate progenies while wearing 'Islam' up their sleeves. Even General Zia ul Haq, who too wore 'Islam' grab, had better morality.

Maybe a scoundrel, opportunist hypocrite Imran who disowns his own child is even worse than a Mr. 10%: One steals the money while the other is a morally bankrupt hypocrite lying through his teeth on daily basis. At the least, Imran should not have used religion as his disguise. We had enough of that from General Zia ul Haq.