Federal cabinet gives nod to imposition of emergency in KP; summary sent to president

[Master Chief]

Jahil Imranists, even if its about minerals..... which locals paid for those mountains that they can claim entire subsurface resources? Pakistan is a republic state not tribalistan.

They'd have us devolve into talibunny tribes fighting with klashnikovs over a friggin mine cart. Eff me this qom is so stupid sometimes.

 

[Forsvaret]

He should be allowed to meet with his sons/family etc. and maybe the establishment can get guarantees from him/host country that he will not get involved in anti-state narrative...

"Pro-state" narrative = Just shut up & praise whatever the boots (military establishment overlords) want to do or currently doing with the country

 

[hussain0216]

Then why give everything a "democratic" cover all of the time? What's even the point of spending so much public money on election contests, parliamentary debates, supreme court judgements when the REAL decision making power of the state lies somewhere else?

Because we are idiots

It's a mistake, with our population,
Our ethnic chauvinism etc

You can't get rational thought out of a population who can't think beyond petty ethnic politics


Many of the biggest issues of Pakistan are ethnocentric bullshit underneath


Everything from TTP and BLA, to Dams, to minerals and gas etc, with the underlying why should "that" ethnicity get something from my people's land, or we are being used and our things stolen


Rather then thinking about our country in a violent world, these sub humans have cause chaos for their tribal ethnic bullshit


Democracy gives a voice, but our people just give their votes to sardars, waderas, chaudharys, chiefs and we go around and around in victim politics


It's not working


Maybe for international community, we can continue with the illusion

But underneath, we need to create a strict single party state where we can implement long term plans


It's already happening


It's best we just accept it,move forward and bring peace to our country and implement those damn plans
Everything from dams to minerals, to borders and migration and making deals with other countries

 

[Goenitz]

So the centre tells BLA/TTP to follow the constitution.
While those who have come to power by the people's votes and followed the constitution have been coerced by guns.​

ٹی ٹی پی کو کہتے ہیں آئین کو مانیں
بلوچوں سے کہتے ہیں جمہوریت کو مانیں
جو آئین کو اور جمہوریت دونوں کو مانتے ان کا مینڈیٹ چھینتے ہیں۔

یہ کسی آئین قانون اصول کی نہیں قبضے کی جنگ ہے ۔​

 

[Forsvaret]

But underneath, we need to create a strict single party state where we can implement long term plans...

These so-called long term "plans" by this one-party state above the state (military establishment) never really worked out in the past. What makes you think it will this time?

 

[Forsvaret]

ٹی ٹی پی کو کہتے ہیں آئین کو مانیں
بلوچوں سے کہتے ہیں جمہوریت کو مانیں
جو آئین کو اور جمہوریت دونوں کو مانتے ان کا مینڈیٹ چھینتے ہیں۔

یہ کسی آئین قانون اصول کی نہیں قبضے کی جنگ ہے ۔​

Cannot be said better

 

[flyingorca]

They'd have us devolve into talibunny tribes fighting with klashnikovs over a friggin mine cart. Eff me this qom is so stupid sometimes.

For PTI, its all about that vote about that vote.
Everyday they find ways to become the victim by exploiting emotionally charged awam's feelings which has no logic and facts. 90% of their issue comes with protecting western invented governance system while selling Riyasat e Medina mantra.

 

[hussain0216]

These so-called long term "plans" by this one-party state above the state (military establishment) never really worked out in the past. What makes you think it will this time?

To be fair our best periods have been through more autocratic rule where we have actually pushed Pakistan forward

Our worst periods are usually democratic rule where the constant horse trading and political conflicts have bought Pakistan to a standstill


Even PTI could have continued to rule KP as long as it understood Pakistani interests and the need to move forward


Instead both PTI and it's lunatic supporters went on a mission to cause chaos and target Pakistan across the world
Combine that with the ethnic kinship with Afghan and their insistent on attacking Pakistan

It made the current circumstances INEVITABLE


other countries collapse, under far far lesser circumstances


Pakistan hasn't, and Pakistan won't

Our military is strong, we can inflict serious damage to our enemies

We have gone easy on Afghans and Baloch due to faith and ethnicity


But the hammer is now being raised and when It comes down it will be shattering



Many keep bringing up 1971, that was 1000 miles away, somewhere where we couldn't even support our forces and even then we targeted millions of Hindus and Bangladesh remained a free Muslim state as per partition

We can now cause far more damage to our enemies

 

[Goenitz]

These so-called long term "plans" by this one-party state above the state (military establishment) never really worked out in the past. What makes you think it will this time?

Long-term plan, my foot. They don't even know who will be chief. There is no plan, process or merit just a stroke of luck and a power grab.
How can they implement anything long term?

 

[Goenitz]

Pakistan hasn't, and Pakistan won't

1971 and active insurgency in Balochistan
Why won't? If the military couldn't save the eastern wing, Kashmir parts, and free movement internally after so many operations, then why won't?

 

[Starlord]

Aag lagi Basti mai aur KPK apni hi masti mai... lol people who's dhanda was Terrorism and smuggling and igniting ethno facism are now running like headless chickens, we will see some protests, few people will die of course, and some security personnel will get hurt, but everything will go back to normal, those "Protestors" are crying about Gareebi but they have so much time to do useless marches, and protests rather than working and paying taxes, unfortunately KPKians only knows war, violence and its the prime economy of the state.

 

[Cipher212]

@Cipher212
I am still waiting for you to provide the source links for the crap that you have pasted in the black boxes.

Please provide the links to the actual media where your claimed material was published.

Stop spreading lies. If you cannot provide those links then apologize all member for posting lies, misleading, and deceiving the forum members.

You cannot be this dumb bro. the source is literally right there search those exact same questions into ANY LLM and just add 'provide sources at the end as links' and it will give you.

My God you are a lazy little guy and unwilling to admit you're wrong. I feel sorry for you but I'm going to humiliate you a little more cause I'm bored.

Here you go (this is from the same chat I shared previously)



Notice how some of the text is underlined? That means it's a URL.

Heres what happens when I tap on it

Opposition to all terror outfits, not only TTP, says KP CM Sohail Afridi

Sohail Afridi to meet Sindh CM Murad Ali Shah: Shafi Jan.KP's development being reversed, says chief minister.KP CM laments treatment meted out in Lahore.Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Chief Minister Sohail Afridi said...

www.geo.tv

pakistan long march Archives - Soch Fact Check

www.sochfactcheck.com

https://www.dawn.com/news/1971462?hl=en-US

Provide your proofs now liar. Show us some proof of a statement from an even half credible source that Sohail Afridi partakes in terrorism.

I don't gotta apologize for shit. you should pay me for teaching you how to do basic online searches.

 

[Cipher212]

Jinnah did not give us a code of life. He delivered on statehood. The state now has to evolve as time goes by and we have to decide how we, as a nation, want to live.

Well I guess that's out of our hands now. The people made of Aag and Nur who wear clean freshly pressed Khaki uniforms and wave Malacca cane in the air will decide what happens.

Ham mitti ke bannay huwe filthy civilians bas passengers rehsakte hy.

 

[Watandar]

I sometimes wonder why does it even matter what MA Jinnah wanted? He, God bless his soul, is long gone. It matters little now as to what he wanted.

Do you think Amreeki in Trump's America care what their founding fathers wanted their country to be? Many of them were hideous racists and most today don't even know who their founding fathers were. Their democracy as it exists today, was nothing like what their founding fathers had envisioned with special interests and all sorts of lobbying riding roughshod over the interests of the people that their democracy is supposed to represent (and this is the world's foremost democracy). Closer to home, Gandhi ji's India is long gone!

Jinnah did not give us a code of life. He delivered on statehood. The state now has to evolve as time goes by and we have to decide how we, as a nation, want to live.

Yes Americans still care what their founding fathers wanted and want to keep the spirit of freedom and democracy alive, which is why they revere their Constitution and try to slowly improve their imperfect democratic setup.

It matters deeply what Mr Jinnah wanted. He was a strict Constitutionalist and wanted a welfare democratic state where Muslims can be safe but all its residents, whether Muslim or not, can contribute to the nation.

We have also decided multiple times what kind of country Pakistan should be and it's written down in the 1973 Constitution. But the criminal generals, bureaucrats and judges who themselves played NO role in the creation of Pakistan, hijacked and ruined the country.

If the 1973 Consitution alone had been allowed to operate, so many problems we have today like political instability, poor development and an elite unresponsive to the public could have been avoided.

Shame on the army that committed treason, not once but multiple times against Pakistan.

 

[Watandar]

Nice cherry picking! You not only deny the help from the Establishment to prop up Imran but you also would deny that the Establishment literally arm-twisted smaller political parties into supporting Imran to become the PM of Pakistan. Yeah, the same Establishment which your Namak Haram Khan later turned against just as he was about to lose power. You may want to look up the journalist Haroon Rashid's video shortly after the 2018 elections/Imran taking the office of the PM: Per Haroon, the Establishment team made the MQM MNAs literally sit on 'Thandey Farash' (Cold Floor) through a night until the MNAs agreed to support Imran to become the PM.

Imran a democrat? Biggest joke. He is simply a Namak Haram and a coward who disowns his own biological illegitimate child--a child ironically being raised by one of Imran's ex-wives.

And he is not a 'political prisoner'. He is a CRIMINAL and a traitor like Mujib ur Rehman was. And his chapter is over.

This is everyday normal flotsam and jetsam of Pakistani politics. Imran Khan was working within the system as it exists. He was and is still operating inside the Constitution, unlike the feral uncivilized fauj.

Khan's personal failings are his business. He may have expressed regret and may have reformed, you don't know the whole story. His daughter and others in his life love him and maintain contact with him, who are YOU to pass judgement sitting thousands of miles away ?

His personal life has no bearing on his political or social welfare career and I don't see how it makes him a dictator or comparable in any way to corrupt treacherous unconstitutional criminals like the jernails, whose own personal lives were quite colorful for example the drunk womanizers Gen Yahya and Gen Musharraf.

The jernails you support have failed repeatedly since 1958 and remain wild and unaccountable.

What has Asim Munir achieved in his four years in power ? Constitutional crimes, kidnapping and murder of citizens, political prisoners, horrible law and order, a wrecked judiciary, two provinces on fire, and a dead economy. Oh and he has dragged Pakistan into yet another un-necessary war so he can collect geopolitical rent.

Munir gets the same F grade as his predecessors.