flyingorca
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Ok , they are all incompetent....now tell us what was PTI plan that got disrupted ?
Making a peace deal by handing over their own province to Afgonistan.
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Ok , they are all incompetent....now tell us what was PTI plan that got disrupted ?
Definitely doesn't include doing province wise operation that requires you to evict thousands of people and make them IDPs then do year long operation while all life grinds to halt.
Already tried that many times. It has the opposite consequence of increasing recruitment.
PTI's stance (judging from Murad Saeed's posts) is that military establishment is the one that settled those terrorists in KPK to "justify" ongoing military operations. Military establishment's stance (judging from Mohsin Naqvi's posts) is that PTI doesn't "cooperate" regarding the said military operation.You know something is seriously wrong when your own Information Minister (Shafi Jan) refuses to even call the TTP a terrorist group.
They have killed our soldiers, policemen and civilians. What more do they need to do before PTI calls them terrorists? This alone tells you the love they have for Pakistan.
PTI's stance (judging from Murad Saeed's posts) is that military establishment is the one that settled those terrorists in KPK to "justify" ongoing military operations. Military establishment's stance (judging from Mohsin Naqvi's posts) is that PTI doesn't "cooperate" regarding the said military operation.![]()
You have given an excellent straw man fallacy... kudos for that.Definitely doesn't include doing province wise operation that requires you to evict thousands of people and make them IDPs then do year long operation while all life grinds to halt.
Already tried that many times. It has the opposite consequence of increasing recruitment.
Murad Saeed is currently in Paktika staying with TTP commanders. tells you a lot of who is right and wrong.PTI's stance (judging from Murad Saeed's posts) is that military establishment is the one that settled those terrorists in KPK to "justify" ongoing military operations. Military establishment's stance (judging from Mohsin Naqvi's posts) is that PTI doesn't "cooperate" regarding the said military operation.![]()
Right and wrong is entirely based on "narratives" - ALL depending on which side of the information you "trust".Murad Saeed is currently in Paktika staying with TTP commanders. tells you a lot of who is right and wrong.
Why does Fauj even "need" public support? Are you implying they are some kind of "political party" that can only exist & thrive on the back of public support?Those were the good old days of 1950s 60s 70s 80s 90s when Fauj enjoyed public support
Lol no they were punjabis not bengalis![]()
I rather not trust the terrorists blowing up mosques and schools, but you do you.Right and wrong is entirely based on "narratives" - ALL depending on which side of the information you "trust".
Sure. Due to some magic a minority would have forced a majority if there was no geographical limitIf east and west were not geographically separated then we would not have seen 1971 disaster nor there would be any surrender which USSR played a huge role with.
But such logics and facts goes right above high IQ imranists brains.
Yes, as quadrat al shahab and our famous PMLN ex governor sindh was in bengal at time of 1971 put itIt must be an easier life for you people who look at things through the ethnic tribal lense.
Yeah yeah it all indian separatist movements are the majority of population like bengal was or 25% of population like kpk is yeaMr Jinnah was not a prophet thus he made some mistakes. Both India and Pakistan give way too much credits to their founding fathers when infact it was Britishers who created both of them. Its literally like teenagers cussing their parents that they did not do anything for them
The example of countries you provided are powerful enough to defend their territories. When Pakistan was created it was one of the poorest and weakest thus your examples are very poor and illogical.
India has many separatist movements and if they were geographically separated with China or Pakistan inbetween, they all would have met same feat as east pakistan.
Remember the good old times when Benazir was accused for being "pro India" since she allegedly wouldn't aid in Khalistan movement. Or when Nawaz Sharif was accused for being "pro India" since he would no longer back the Kargil War? Now it's PTI / Imran / Murad Saeed's time to face the same music with them being "pro Afghanistan" accusations...I rather not trust the terrorists blowing up mosques and schools, but you do you.
Yes, as quadrat al shahab and our famous PMLN ex governor sindh was in bengal at time of 1971 put it
"We use to call them our servants"
Yeah it was so easy