France confirms shooting down of Indian Rafale and failure of SPECTRA: What future for French air superiority?

[Corax]

Rafale max ceiling is less than 9000 ft.
more 65000.

Can you show us pictures or videos of an intact PL15? There's a video showing the booster section only, no warhead or seeker.

 

[maxpane]

wooooow wooooow Amazing .May Allah Pak keep him safe . He is a crown jewel of your family mashaAllah

sir if there is any video of ccs hraduation plz share with us

 

[Starlord]

Escort mission of FM Asim Munir's aircraft to Iran for negotiations.

oh i didn't know that the name that mission.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Alhamdulilah... he was in Saya e Saalar too... InShaAllah you will see him soon with the trophy in CCS graduation, the first course of J10C

Masha'Allah. So guys come from a family of Pakistani Warriors.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

1. Yes, all PL-15 were launched from J10C. Add the HQ-9 kill and we can say 15 missiles in total as per my guess.
2. 10 hits are confirm, including 8 kills and 2 damaged. Rest 3-4 may or may not have connected as the IAF fighters turned cold. We are not claiming them due to uncertainty and in my personal guess, 2 PL-15s were trashed.
3. All targets are fighters except 1 Heron.
4. All are separate targets.
5. No failure of PL-15 but the Amritsar package flew very professionally. There is no confirmed kill in that package and their defensive maneuvers were very good. So I think they turned cold in time to outrun the fired BVR.
6. Actual number is definitely more than 8 and even AVM Tariq Ghazi mentioned it in Marka e Haq briefing that there are multiple aircraft that were damaged and IAF has not been able to recover them yet.
7. Lastly, Abhijit Iyer Mitra said that the 2019 episode was repeated, implying the fratricide of Mi-17 over Srinagar. If that is true, 10-11 hits by PAF and 1-2 by friendly fire.
8. If IAF finally tells the whole story, I think at least one more Rafale and a MiG-29 will be added to the tally.

Thank you brother for the detailed response.

 

[BonPlan]

Rakesh did not consult Grok before posting as usual

No need of AI like you, Stud.
Artificial Intellingence is usefull for the one without natural one.

 

[BonPlan]

Rafale max ceiling is less than 9000 ft.
more 65000.

sorry 90000 ft.

 

[BonPlan]

1. Yes, all PL-15 were launched from J10C. Add the HQ-9 kill and we can say 15 missiles in total as per my guess.
2. 10 hits are confirm, including 8 kills and 2 damaged. Rest 3-4 may or may not have connected as the IAF fighters turned cold. We are not claiming them due to uncertainty and in my personal guess, 2 PL-15s were trashed.
3. All targets are fighters except 1 Heron.
4. All are separate targets.
5. No failure of PL-15 but the Amritsar package flew very professionally. There is no confirmed kill in that package and their defensive maneuvers were very good. So I think they turned cold in time to outrun the fired BVR.
6. Actual number is definitely more than 8 and even AVM Tariq Ghazi mentioned it in Marka e Haq briefing that there are multiple aircraft that were damaged and IAF has not been able to recover them yet.
7. Lastly, Abhijit Iyer Mitra said that the 2019 episode was repeated, implying the fratricide of Mi-17 over Srinagar. If that is true, 10-11 hits by PAF and 1-2 by friendly fire.
8. If IAF finally tells the whole story, I think at least one more Rafale and a MiG-29 will be added to the tally.

OKAY.
Could you make the same study about the PAF losses ? Except if, as some dream here, PAF didn't suffer a single loss....

 

[Yasser76]

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Ah! Bonjour Rakesh

 

[Corax]

OKAY.
Could you make the same study about the PAF losses ? Except if, as some dream here, PAF didn't suffer a single loss....

You're the one dreaming about PAF losses, so the onus is on you to provide the evidence to back this up. The same way you dream about an intact PL15 landing in india.

 

[Yasser76]

Bonjour mon cher Stud. Comment ça va ce matin? Je ne t'ai pas trop fait cauchemarder cette nuit j'espère?

And off to ignore you finally go....

 

[AeronautIR]

OKAY.
Could you make the same study about the PAF losses ? Except if, as some dream here, PAF didn't suffer a single loss....

Another heavy sigh... on 7th, IAF couldn't get a single shot... on 10th, an AEWACS was damaged in Bholari... wingtip of a C130 was also damaged in Nur Khan... apart from loss of human lives, PAF didn't lose any aircraft.

 

[Musings]

OKAY.
Could you make the same study about the PAF losses ? Except if, as some dream here, PAF didn't suffer a single loss....

Look at the title - then look at where you are taking the thread. Stop the derailment.

 

[Falgrine]

1. Yes, all PL-15 were launched from J10C. Add the HQ-9 kill and we can say 15 missiles in total as per my guess.
2. 10 hits are confirm, including 8 kills and 2 damaged. Rest 3-4 may or may not have connected as the IAF fighters turned cold. We are not claiming them due to uncertainty and in my personal guess, 2 PL-15s were trashed.
3. All targets are fighters except 1 Heron.
4. All are separate targets.
5. No failure of PL-15 but the Amritsar package flew very professionally. There is no confirmed kill in that package and their defensive maneuvers were very good. So I think they turned cold in time to outrun the fired BVR.
6. Actual number is definitely more than 8 and even AVM Tariq Ghazi mentioned it in Marka e Haq briefing that there are multiple aircraft that were damaged and IAF has not been able to recover them yet.
7. Lastly, Abhijit Iyer Mitra said that the 2019 episode was repeated, implying the fratricide of Mi-17 over Srinagar. If that is true, 10-11 hits by PAF and 1-2 by friendly fire.
8. If IAF finally tells the whole story, I think at least one more Rafale and a MiG-29 will be added to the tally.

Guess those were the OC/Flight commander of the Rafale Sqn.
They indeed flew remarkably well and trashed a few of the long sticks.

But majority of the InAF Rafalers/29er/30er were caught off guard indeed.

 

[Master Chief]

Another heavy sigh... on 7th, IAF couldn't get a single shot... on 10th, an AEWACS was damaged in Bholari... wingtip of a C130 was also damaged in Nur Khan... apart from loss of human lives, PAF didn't lose any aircraft.

My humble opinion, but do proceed of course as you see fit. Your insights on this forum are highly valued and are evidently professional in nature. There may actually be no need for you to respond to the pseudo-intellectual dramas of certain forum amateurs.

Would save you from excessive heavy sighs.