Frustrated Google employee wants to quit as half of his teammates are Indians

People have gotten softer in this country.

Ask yourself how come Doordash of the world flourish.
People are lazy to cook
lazy to learn how to cook
lazy to pickup their food from restaurant

People hire illegals to do even mundane stuff like lawn mowing
There are 16 homes on my street.

Four of us do our own yard work. The rest hire it out.

Mrs. AZ and I rarely go out to eat anymore. Why? It's no longer enjoyable. There is no such thing as a nice, quiet dinner now. Times it was quieter on the flightline at D-M than it is in a restaurant. I don't care to hear other people's conversations from 4 tables away nor is the establishment a playground for their spawn.

And for those who insist on being on their cellphones? Yeah, where's my Louisville Slugger. It's a restaurant. Not an effing phone booth.
 
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There are 16 homes on my street.

Four of us do our own yard work. The rest hire it out.

Mrs. AZ and I rarely go out to eat anymore. Why? It's no longer enjoyable. There is no such thing as a nice, quiet dinner now. Times it was quieter on the flightline at D-M than it is in a restaurant. I don't care to hear other people's conversations from 4 tables away nor is the establishment a playground for their spawn.

And for those who insist on being on their cellphones? Yeah, where's my Louisville Slugger. It's a restaurant. Not an effing phone booth.

I used to eat out 4-6 times a year - usually to celebrate birthdays of family members.
These days young kids lives off eating in restaurants all the time
 
Indians and their stories...

out of many indians I have met, most of them are well behaved (not well mannered!) but are equally corrupt, criminal mind and I found many of them no less talented than other nationalities..

Indian talent is just a myth.

Say what you want. The smart ones are a notch above their Pakistani equivalents

Look no further than the CEOs of Google, Adobe and Microsoft
 
@nahtanbob

People hire illegals to do even mundane stuff like lawn mowing

These would be mainly Mexican men, right? I understand they provide some other "services" as well as a side business.

Regards
 
These days young kids lives off eating in restaurants all the time

Just last Friday, I was at a juice bar in Sydney and thinking '$12 for a glass of juice seems a bit much'. Just then a couple of college students ordered a glass each as a matter of course, LOL.

But I guess I am a cheapskate. I have these mental limits. A lunch drink shouldn't cost more than $5-6, a sandwich not more than $12-15, lunch not more than $20-25. Unless, of course, you are going to a proper restaurant lunch with friends or colleagues, then it's different.

These prices are all in an Australian context. The prices would be different elsewhere.
 
Just last Friday, I was at a juice bar in Sydney and thinking '$12 for a glass of juice seems a bit much'. Just then a couple of college students ordered a glass each as a matter of course, LOL.

But I guess I am a cheapskate. I have these mental limits. A lunch drink shouldn't cost more than $5-6, a sandwich not more than $12-15, lunch not more than $20-25. Unless, of course, you are going to a proper restaurant lunch with friends or colleagues, then it's different.

These prices are all in an Australian context. The prices would be different elsewhere.
Look if you are some rich trust fund baby I could care less. But if you are on a person on a limited budget and still trying to establish yourself it is good to delay gratification
 
@Developereo

But I guess I am a cheapskate. I have these mental limits.

All of us desis of our generation are "cheapskates". We were born and brought in times of limited means. We weren't entitled- we knew we had to work hard to feed ourselves and stash away money for a rainy day. Our next gen even in Des are probably not hardwired the same way.

Regards
 
Part of it is merit but a lot is nepotism. Indians tend to hire Indians - period.
More so, even in that there are divisions where certain Indians from certain regions want to hire Indians from that region

They also hire their own to extract from them what others refuse to give. Tens of thousands of good kids are being exploited by their own.

The Chinese do it as well but to a different degree.

I had the displeasure of visiting Toronto recently and it's REALLY bad, it would be wise for Americans to get their act together.

What's so bad about Toronto?

You seem stuck in the ’90s. I graduated from a top tier Western university, worked at a leading firm, and chose to return to India to build something of my own. Many of my classmates have done the same. Visit any startup or tech meet in Bangalore, you’ll find plenty of UK/US returnees who left good jobs abroad to create and scale businesses here, some even selling to VCs. Sure, many still aim to settle in the West, but that’s only part of the story. The reality has changed time to move past outdated views.

Lol, right...
 
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Off topic but somewhat related:
I have no personal experience, but Indian Muslims (IM) I have spoken to, tell a different story about the Indian professionals they work alongside in India; in both the private and public sector organizations. .. The IM face insults, harassment, physical assaults, denial of leave on Eid , refusal for prayer time on Fridays and no accommodation of Ramadan evening timings for Iftar . The last is particularly difficult due to the fact that BOPs in India work to North American and European timezones. A BOP serving North American and European client's would be working from 11:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m Indian Time to serve both UK and East Coast USA.
Well, this isn’t something unique to Muslims. Indian workplaces and managers, in general, are quite tough on employees, long hours, no real concept of work life balance, and a culture that often expects you to be available whenever needed. Almost 75% of my friends work in IT, and unless they’re with companies like Amazon or similar, the work culture is largely workaholic. Managers and companies typically don’t care much about personal situations, late night calls, weekend work, and being on call are quite common. Of course, this can be harder for Muslims given specific religious obligations, but the idea that Muslims are specifically targeted in IT workplaces feels like an overstatement. I’ve known people who’ve struggled to even get leave for a family death. That’s also why frequent job hopping is so common, it’s not unusual for IT folks to switch jobs every year.

Unsurprisingly the IMs are conveniently "filtered out" for overseas assignments so there are practically zero Indian Muslim techies. The social media in India refer to IMs as "the Puncture wala" Madarsa chaap " ; since IMs have descended to the bottom of the economic ladder and some are involved in the car tire repair business.
That may be true to an extent, but there are nuances. In Indian society, there’s a clear difference between the elite Muslim communities, often very well-educated, sometimes deeply religious, but generally integrated into high society. They enjoy good lifestyles, travel abroad, are part of clubs like Rotary or Round Table, and have strong social standing. They invite Hindus friends and associates to their events, and vice versa. Many from these groups, especially Bohras, coastal Muslims, etc run large businesses and are highly respected.

But at the lower end of the socio economic ladder, the picture is different. Here, education doesn’t seem as central to the family or community’s aspirations. It’s not about lack of opportunity, schools are open, there are Muslim run institutions offering subsidies but the value placed on education isn’t the same. In contrast, a low income Hindu family will often go to great lengths to fund their child’s schooling, you’ll see kids of auto drivers or watchmen doing engineering, or even medicine if the child is bright. Among lower income Muslims, there’s more comfort in traditional trades, mechanic shops, welding, etc. It’s more about mindset than external barriers, and sadly, this gap persists especially more so for girls.

Regardless, I must confess that I enjoyed the most extravagant hospitality during my frequent trips to India and despite my secular stance was repeatedly asked if I needed to be transported to the nearby mosque on Friday, or if I wanted halal food.
Of course I politely refused due to my organization ethics policies. I did accept one eat out dinner at a place called "36 " and I had some nice biryani and Kingfisher beer
An American passport, helped to keep me safe.
@vasanthm
Even a Middle Eastern passport keeps you just as safe. For example, my city has plenty of students from Iran, they’re a fun and vibrant bunch. They often host paid dinner parties serving Iranian cuisine, and it’s always great to hang out with them. But again, their outlook and lifestyle align more with the high society Muslims I mentioned earlier.

And next time you’re in India, I’d suggest exploring beyond Kingfisher, try Bira, Simba, or some of the fantastic craft beers now widely available. If you’re in Bangalore, the microbreweries are top notch, honestly, I think they rival, if not surpass, many in Europe!
 
You seem stuck in the ’90s. I graduated from a top tier Western university, worked at a leading firm, and chose to return to India to build something of my own. Many of my classmates have done the same. Visit any startup or tech meet in Bangalore, you’ll find plenty of UK/US returnees who left good jobs abroad to create and scale businesses here, some even selling to VCs. Sure, many still aim to settle in the West, but that’s only part of the story. The reality has changed time to move past outdated views.
krash
Lol, right...

So I guess you wouldn’t believe me if I said I graduated from both Oxford and Cambridge, worked at a top-tier investment bank, and then chose to return to India? Funny how reality messes with stereotypes, isn’t it?
 
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Say what you want. The smart ones are a notch above their Pakistani equivalents

Look no further than the CEOs of Google, Adobe and Microsoft
thats only because indians are servile and can bend over and serve the BoD better. nothing to do with talent.
 
thats only because indians are servile and can bend over and serve the BoD better. nothing to do with talent.
It’s never really about talent, most populations, given similar opportunities and ecosystems, will perform at comparable levels, with some influence from environment and culture. The Indian success story is about cost and scale, delivering acceptable IT services at highly competitive pricing and massive scale in a short span of time. And of course, like anywhere, you’ll find outliers, small numbers capable of creating very high value. Our challenge is to keep growing the base to employ millions while also pushing the top end to move up the value chain
 
krash


So I guess you wouldn’t believe me if I said I graduated from both Oxford and Cambridge, worked at a top-tier investment bank, and then chose to return to India? Funny how reality messes with stereotypes, isn’t it?

Sure you did.

And since you say you did, everyone else did as well.
 
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Say what you want. The smart ones are a notch above their Pakistani equivalents

Look no further than the CEOs
I guess the Adanis, Ambanis, and Tatas are above the Google and Microsoft CEOs . Which is why your bridges never collapse, and your national carrier planes don't crash. 😊
Extreme in intelligence.

I would rank Adani over Satya Nadella any day. At least he can finance a regime over 1.5 billion people.
I would also rank Baba Ramdev whose Panchgavya product is far more profitable than Google. It has divine sanctity.
 

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