This interview was done in Munich, in 1992 with Gudrun Himmler. She was born on August 8, 1929 and died on May 24, 2018 at the symbolic age of 88. She was 63 years old when she did this interview.
This interview was done in Munich, in 1992 with Gudrun Himmler. She was born on August 8, 1929 and died on May 24, 2018 at the symbolic age of 88. She was 63 years old when she did this interview.
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Thanks for meeting with me; I would like to ask you some questions regarding your father Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler and your recollections of the Third Reich. May I start by asking what you remember about life before the war?
Gudrun: Life was good, and I mean that in every sense of the word. While I remember nothing about the struggle for power as I was born in 1929, I heard many stories. When I started to remember my life, it was 1934 and I remember my father coming home in his sharp black uniform, and I would take his cap and play with it. All I remember hearing was how much better everyone had it, I would overhear how Germany overcame a lot of despair and a bad economy.
The people I saw were genuinely happy; there were smiles everyplace I would go, and my father took me with him on many trips. I remember the throngs of people who came up to my father to thank him and the other leaders around him for saving them. It was a strange feeling, my father was very high up in the Reich government but yet I felt, and my father reinforced this, that we were part of the people, no better and no worse. That was the essence of National Socialism; everything was done for the people, to help improve everyone’s life and happiness.
I still remember going for walks and smelling all the gourmet food from the mom and pop stores that lined the streets. Under National Socialism everyone was encouraged to start a small business or to have a good career, so we had many shops to choose from. I would often go with my mother to buy ingredients for dishes that we would cook together; every family was encouraged to eat together and share. The life I remember in the Reich was organized, happy, fulfilling, and full of hope.
There are those who disagree, saying that National Socialism was hateful, racist, divisive, and pure evil, you do not believe this to be factual?
Gudrun: Not in a million years. It shows you how powerful propaganda is. There is a book an American showed me called “The War that Hitler Won” and it attempted to show how effective “Nazi propaganda“ was in brainwashing the masses to do evil things. The truth is far different. It was the Allies who are the masters of propaganda, convincing millions that a nation and its people must die and suffer because they are a threat to “freedom.”
National Socialism was born due to a nation being plundered and taken advantage of, with the people lacking the proper will to live and fight for their future. The Führer and those around him saw the problems, identified what was causing the problems, and showed the solution to solve the problems.
saying it was Czech partisans rising up with help from the people. Those in charge fell for that claim, and came down harshly on people even if just by rumor, something Heydrich would have been against as he would have wanted hard evidence.
France was the same way; the people were treated very well, only the die-hard communists formed a resistance, which the average French person wanted no part of. My father was proud of the French who sent many people to help us, either in the factories or the front. So yes, there were those opposed to German rule, but many more were receptive to the ideas of National Socialism and saw a future that was very bright for all Europeans. It is too bad we were not given the luxury of being able to un-occupy these people and turn them over to true National Socialist leaders. The war made the occupation necessary to secure our borders from enemy invasion.
What was your father’s view regarding religion and christianity? History tells us he was an occultist and worked to destroy the church and persecute christians.
Gudrun: Wow, you certainly have read enough of the victor’s version of our history. This is somewhat hard to explain to someone who is not German, but I will try. My father had a vision of a people turning back to their creator, who gave us everything we know. Our people, the Europeans, have created all the great civilizations, have set foot on every continent, and have brought great good to the whole world. We are leaps and bounds ahead of any other peoples, including the advanced Orientals. My father asked the questions as to why, where and how. He commissioned studies of our history, to trace the footsteps of our ancestors, where did they originate and why were they so intelligent and advanced when other races stayed the same?
Germany had some of the most advanced anthropologists, genetic scientists, historians, and supporting staff to help find the answers to why we exist and how it all came to be. My father was religious, and raised us to be also. A Being is responsible for life, that is very easy to see because of what it is, nature and the beauty of the earth. Nature is clear about that, the problem, or question is who he is. Every race was given a way to worship their creator, the European people found a God who worked well for us for 2 thousand years. My father’s concern was that in just the last 200 years jews have wormed their way into our religion, even to the point of working on translating parts of the Bible to suit their needs.
They were then able to convince leaders that the bible really is about the jew and not about Europeans; we are only secondary along with all other “gentiles”. This made no sense to my father, as jews have not had any of the marks of a creative, industrious people. I have met people from your country who agree that the jews cannot be the people of the bible, or that the Bible is only for the jew, who denounce and hate christ. We Europeans took his name; hence, every European nation is a christian nation. My father did not hate the church or persecute the church. What he disagreed with was the judeo influence on the church; Germany had some sects who worshiped the jew as the only people close to God.
The SS idea was to turn our people back to their roots from where they came and away from the modern judeo church whom was seen as a destructive Trojan horse to weaken the people, and turn them from their God. The German christians were a good start, and my father attended many services by pastors who understood the jewish influence on the christian religion was not a good thing and led to false teachings. Therefore, my father respected the church, many SS officers were catholic, and he had no wish to anger christians. He did however want people to see another side of the church that was not healthy for the people. It became lazy, drenched in liberal thought, even suggesting homosexuals should be allowed in society, and that race does not matter to the creator who created the races. Germans have always revered our history; you will see in our very old cathedrals’ images from our Germanic past, the gods our ancestors prayed to, and it is all tied into our modern worldview of religion. We worship god by thanking him for our history, and honoring our ancestors who brought us forward into the age we are in.
Did you ever see a concentration camp?
Gudrun: Yes I did, in 1941 my father asked me to come with him so I could see how prisoners were getting along in Germany’s largest and oldest camp. We arrived and were greeted by prisoners along with the camp commander. I was impressed with how happy the prisoners were; we moved through the camp with no guards and had prisoners showing us what they did day to day. I saw the gardens, trees, hospital, baths, quarters, and theater rooms. The commander laughed that the prisoners lived better than he did. The prisoners were very friendly, I asked one man who was a communist how he liked the camp; he of course said he would rather be home, but life here was not terrible. This was in 1941, when we were supposed to be killing them all.
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This interview was done in Munich, in 1992 with Gudrun Himmler. She was born on August 8, 1929 and died on May 24, 2018 at the symbolic age of 88. She was 63 years old when she did this interview.
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