Gaza-Israel Conflict | 2023-2024

8 Zionist soldiers killed in Rafah after the resistance bombed a troop carrier.

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That is one totally destroyed vehicle!! Gazans have been harvesting high explosives from the unexploded ordnances dropped by Israelis for years.

Occupation helicopters transport a number of wounded to the occupied interior after a security incident in the Gaza Strip.

Per John Elmer of Electronic Intifada, the Gazans don't target the IDF soldiers who come to rescue the injured soldiers due to some Islamic beliefs to not harm injured soldiers. But John doesn't agree with that: Per him, the rescue teams are not injured soldiers and should be targeted. And given what kind of butchery IDF has been doing, it is fair to target the rescue teams and the helicopters!
 
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The resistance decided to activate all its cards, including martyrdom operations, after they had been suspended for years for political reasons.

If the Resistance starts suicide bombing inside Tel Aviv--as they seem to be doing now--then we are back to the earlier Intifada years, which means even more bloodshed and unending conflicts. But is that the actual goal? Is that the right approach? If so then the Resistance is doing what the Israel's Founding Fathers did in the 1930s onwards: Relentless strife and acts of terrorism to achieve their goal in 1948.
 
That is one totally destroyed vehicle!! Gazans have been harvesting high explosives from the unexploded ordnances dropped by Israelis for years.



Per John Elmer of Electronic Intifada, the Gazans don't target the IDF soldiers who come to rescue the injured soldiers due to some Islamic beliefs to not harm injured soldiers. But John doesn't agree with that: Per him, the rescue teams are not injured soldiers and should be targeted. And given what kind of butchery IDF has been doing, it is fair to target the rescue teams and the helicopters!


I also think it is due to the limited SAMs available in the Gaza Strip and the flares equipped with those helicopters that prevent them from hitting the enemy's helicopters. Weapons such as ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" and ZSU-57-2 are also not available in the Gaza Strip.
 
I also think it is due to the limited SAMs available in the Gaza Strip and the flares equipped with those helicopters that prevent them from hitting the enemy's helicopters. Weapons such as ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" and ZSU-57-2 are also not available in the Gaza Strip.

Makes sense. But I have seen rescue soldiers walking to the injured soldiers on many occasions in clear sight of the Gazan attackers but they come and get the injured and walk away. Many such footages exist!
In contrast, the IDF straps civilians on their vehicles and uses civilians as human shields when entering buildings and tunnels.
 
If the Resistance starts suicide bombing inside Tel Aviv--as they seem to be doing now--then we are back to the earlier Intifada years, which means even more bloodshed and unending conflicts. But is that the actual goal? Is that the right approach? If so then the Resistance is doing what the Israel's Founding Fathers did in the 1930s onwards: Relentless strife and acts of terrorism to achieve their goal in 1948.
The mass starvation and cruelty and barbarism against women and children justifies everything, anything and anywhere.
 
Hedbollah and its allies will give Israel a major headache. Israel is a conventional Army with fancy toys, but without any real experince except fight civillians the past 4 decades.

Hizbollah otoh have fought and won the long grim war in Syria. Which is a huge feat. They have gained massive combat experience and become battle hardened.

Israel knows this and therefore hesistates. Israel lost against Hezbollah in 2006. Hizbollah is 10 times stronger and better equipped today.
Israel is also better equipped today.

They both have nothing to win if the war starts.
 
If the Resistance starts suicide bombing inside Tel Aviv--as they seem to be doing now--then we are back to the earlier Intifada years, which means even more bloodshed and unending conflicts. But is that the actual goal? Is that the right approach? If so then the Resistance is doing what the Israel's Founding Fathers did in the 1930s onwards: Relentless strife and acts of terrorism to achieve their goal in 1948.
Little sucess for now.

And today is a lot more harder attack modern cities, CCTV everywhere and electronic surveillance centralized in real time, none of that existed in the 30s.
 
Makes sense. But I have seen rescue soldiers walking to the injured soldiers on many occasions in clear sight of the Gazan attackers but they come and get the injured and walk away. Many such footages exist!
In contrast, the IDF straps civilians on their vehicles and uses civilians as human shields when entering buildings and tunnels.


The Gazans should be targeting the rescue terrorists and even the injured terrorists as these scum will be coming back to kill their women and children next given half the chance.

Sometimes Muslims can be their own worst enemy. The occupier is on a genocidal mission and you still want to "play by the rules"?

Just think what the numbers of dead Zionist terrorists could be by now? Maybe over that symbolic 1,000 that would have put real pressure on the occupier to give up their genocide of Gazans.
 
UN cannot be trusted to vaccinate Palestinian children.

Hamas dismisses ‘illusion’ that Gaza truce is ‘closer’

AFP Published August 18, 2024 Updated a day ago

Displaced Palestinians prepare to leave a refugee camp following an Israeli evacuation order, on Saturday.—Reuters

Displaced Palestinians prepare to leave a refugee camp following an Israeli evacuation order, on Saturday.—Reuters
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DOHA: A senior Hamas official on Saturday dismissed optimistic talk by US President Joe Biden that a Gaza truce is nearer after negotiations in the Gulf emirate of Qatar.

“To say that we are getting close to a deal is an illusion,” Hamas political bureau member Sami Abu Zuhri said. “We are not facing a deal or real negotiations, but rather the imposing of American diktats.”

He was responding to Biden’s comment on Friday that, “We are closer than we have ever been.” Biden spoke after two days of talks in Qatar where Washington tried to bridge differences between Israel and Hamas. The two sides have been at conflict for more than 10 months in the Gaza Strip.


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Previous optimism during months of on-off truce talks has so far proven futile. But the stakes have significantly risen since the killings in quick succession in late July of Fuad Shukr, a top operations chief of Lebanon’s Hezbollah movement, and Hamas political chief Ismail Haniyeh. Their deaths led to vows of vengeance from Hezbollah, Iran and other Tehran-backed groups in the region which blamed Israel.


UN calls for seven-day pauses in fighting so it could vaccinate children against polio
In an effort to avert a broader conflict, Western and Arab diplomats have been shuttling around the Middle East to push for a Gaza deal which they say could help avert a wider regional conflagration.

Biden’s secretary of state, Antony Blinken, was to head on Saturday to Israel in a bid to finalise an agreement. As efforts towards a truce continued, so did the killing on Saturday in Gaza and Lebanon.

The United Nations appealed for seven-day pauses in the fighting so it could vaccinate children against polio, after the Palestinian health ministry reported Gaza’s first polio case in 25 years.

On his visit to Israel, Blinken will seek to “conclude the agreement for a ceasefire and release of hostages and detainees”, the State Department said.

Egyptian, Qatari and US mediators are working to finalise details of a framework agreement initially outlined by Biden in May. He said Israel had proposed it.

In a joint statement after two days of talks in Qatar, the mediators said they presented both sides with a proposal that “bridges remaining gaps”. Talks aiming to secure a deal are to resume in Cairo “before the end of next week”, they said. Hamas did not attend the Doha talks. An official of the group, Osama Hamdan, had said the group would join if the meeting set a timetable for implementing what Hamas had already agreed to.

On Friday, officials said that Hamas will not accept “new conditions” from Israel. A prospective cessation of hostilities has centred around a phased deal beginning with an initial truce.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office had detailed its conditions for a truce, including “a veto on certain prisoners” being released from its jails.

Netanyahu accused of ‘impeding’ deal

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi, who met French Foreign Minister Stephane Sejourne in Cairo on Saturday, emphasised the need “to seize the opportunity” offered by the ongoing talks and “spare the region from the consequences of further escalation,” Egypt’s presidency said.

Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi of Jordan blamed Netanyahu for “impeding attempts to finalise” a deal and urged pressure on him. As truce talks took place, thousands of civilians were on the move again after the Israeli military issued fresh evacuation orders ahead of imminent military action in central-southern Gaza.

“During each round of negotiations, they exert pressure by forcing evacuations and committing massacres,” said Issa Murad, a Palestinian displaced to Deir el Balah.

Published in Dawn, August 18th, 2024
 
That is one totally destroyed vehicle!! Gazans have been harvesting high explosives from the unexploded ordnances dropped by Israelis for years.



Per John Elmer of Electronic Intifada, the Gazans don't target the IDF soldiers who come to rescue the injured soldiers due to some Islamic beliefs to not harm injured soldiers. But John doesn't agree with that: Per him, the rescue teams are not injured soldiers and should be targeted. And given what kind of butchery IDF has been doing, it is fair to target the rescue teams and the helicopters!

Human Rights in Islam​

CHAPTER FOUR​

RIGHTS OF ENEMIES AT WAR​


  1. Protection of the Wounded
    "Do not attack a wounded person"-thus said the Prophet. This means that the wounded soldiers who are not fit to fight, nor actually fighting, should not be attacked.
 

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