GTRE Kaveri 80 KN engine(New Engine or Rebirth)?

Defence PSU MIDHANI enters the global supply chain for aero-engine critical materials​

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Sources in the Hyderabad-based MIDHANI said, that since last year, the company has been supplying nickel-based alloys to a British aerospace company through a Navratna defence firm which has given the necessary international exposure needed by indigenous defence firms ahead of India working to close a deal with US-based GE Aerospace for domestic manufacturing of F414 fighter jet engines.

This would take India towards achieving aatmanirbharta in the core sector of aero engine manufacturing since the domestic firms have made good progress in avionics.

Development certification​

Similarly, the 50-year-old PSU, set up to achieve self-reliance in the production and supply of various super alloys, special steels, titanium, and soft magnetic alloys to defence and other strategic sectors such as energy, space and aeronautical applications, is also going through the stage of securing development certification from an American aerospace company for offering international quality products, MIDHANI sources elaborated.

One of the properties of the special critical material is that they can withstand high temperatures beyond 1000 degrees centigrade thet aero engines are capable of producing, and are lighter too in comparison to standard materials.

Its visibility is also slowly picking up in Europe as well, if the DPSU officials are to be believed, benefiting from the international supply chain disruptions caused by the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, which has forced the foreign original equipment manufacturers to look for an alternative market in India.

Ongoing projects​


The defence PSU, pointed out sources, are already supplying critical materials for the bulkhead frame of HAL’s Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), a 4.5-generation stealth, multirole fighter platform, which is under the trial stage and is expected to take the first flight three years later. Another 4 to 5 critical materials are at the development stage for AMCA, elaborated the PSU sources.

Another ongoing project of MIDHANI is that it’s providing special material developed for the first time for Kaveri dry engines, being manufactured by Godrej Aerospace on the technical know-how from Defence Research And Development Organisation’s (DRDO’s) Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE). Sources said the Kaveri engines are expected to be ready in around mid 2024 and would go for extensive trials before seeking airworthiness certification. Once that happens, it would give the government an option to mount the engines on one of the LCA platforms.

The MIDHANI managed to emerge out of its conventional production schedule and scale up its capability after developing critical materials for the engines of an aircraft, acquired a few decades ago and still forms part of the fighter squadrons of the IAF. They have been supplying raw materials to the HAL which manufactures combat jets since the last at least four years.

Besides that, it supplies armoury for M-17 helicopters and tanks, does bullet-proofing of vehicles and has invented “Hastealloy”, a special grade of steel made for de-desulphurisation of flue gases emerging out of thermal power plants. So far India has been importing it as it’s a must to install in all the power plants for checking pollution.
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Defence PSU MIDHANI enters the global supply chain for aero-engine critical materials

MIDHANI, a defence PSU, is making strides in the global supply chain by offering critical materials for aerospace manufacturing.
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Pingle said:
Engine mastery is a key and I have no doubt that in so many years we have come long way..... our Kaveri today is very different today than what it was that Iam sure.....
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According to GTRE, 2 private companies in India have the capacity to manufacture Single Crystal Blades for Aero Engine application, PTC Industries and ABI SHOWATECH (TVS Group).
 
I personally feel once Kaveri is ready/certified even at low thrust India must use in products like drones or trainer aircraft. Putting something to actual use brings way more learning, experience and improvements.
 
Idiots wasted a decade in doing this, had the kaveri development continued, even after de linking from Tejas.. today we would have come to a better situation.

Now another 5 yrs will go, in Kaveri getting mated with Tejas.
 
By the time Kaveri gets ready
India would already have inducted 220 Tejas with Ge F404 engines with 85Kn thrust

We would be able to use Kaveri engine during mid life upgrade for the Tejas fleet .
As you guys already know, GE is only making F404 Engines for India, it doesn't have any other customer for this engine now that Saab has shifted to GE F414 for the Gripen E
GE has delivered 76 Engines to HAL
And has promised to Deliver @ 20 engines per year from this year
With total pending engine order exceeding 200 engines

I Expect initial Tejas Mk1 IOC aircrafts to start getting Kaveri Engines sometime around 2031 , since they would have completed 15 years and 4000 flight hrs by then.
 
GTRE should have tried developing a 90Kn Version of Kaveri
After spending 10yrs in the doldrums
They have only managed a 10% improvement over the 73Kn Initial Kaveri engine

Tejas MK1A will require a Higher thrust engine if IAF plans to upgrade it beyond the Mk1B

With 180 of IAFs 220 Tejas Likely to serve well into the 2050s
Specifications which were considered good in 2020, are not going to be cutting edge in 2035 and beyond

Hence the third batch of 97 Tejas will be inducted in MK1B configuration

And 40 Tejas MK1 will start getting upgrades in 2030-31 itself mainly becoz their specs are even more outdated and are at par with IAF Mirage 2000 and Mig29UPG
 
:cautious: We sure are throwing billions into this project alright. Not too happy about it, but it should be done.
 
Complete Domestic engine manufacturing is critical if we want independence from American Blackmail regarding GE F404/F414 engines.
As it is India is buying 275 GE F404 for Tejas Mk1A/B as well as 400 GE F414 for Tejas Mk2 , AMCA and TEDBF

500+ Indian Airforce and Navy Combat Aircrafts could be powered by American engine
That's the entire fleet Barring Rafales and Su30MKI
 
Archie said:
Complete Domestic engine manufacturing is critical if we want independence from American Blackmail regarding GE F404/F414 engines.
As it is India is buying 275 GE F404 for Tejas Mk1A/B as well as 400 GE F414 for Tejas Mk2 , AMCA and TEDBF

500+ Indian Airforce and Navy Combat Aircrafts could be powered by American engine
That's the entire fleet Barring Rafales and Su30MKI
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Yeah but who will explain this to the babus? They stopped funding to GTRE for a decade, and only picked things up now.

Always running after shiny shiny Import stuff
 
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