Gunman opens fire at crowded Australia beach, people rush for shelter

[Shags101]

Do you think that Ahmed Al Ahmed knew that the people he was defending from these shooters were Jews, even Zionists? (He was, after all, approaching the first shooter from behind.) And if he did, would that have made a difference?

Regardless, don't you think that will be his defense if criticized as a "Zionist" by his fellow Muslims? Would such a defense even be effective?

Honestly until I hear you feign disgust about attacks against pregnant woman in Israel or daily attacks caught on tape be it a settler who shoots an unarmed peace activist on video and still has not been put in jail or soldiers executing fighters who were giving themselves up or a scared boy who was being chased by soldiers for driving to slow reversed when they called him to come back than frightened when they attacked him

 

[Forsvaret]

Pakistan must take responsibility…

Responsibility for what exactly?

 

[hasssanali8998]

Do you think that Ahmed Al Ahmed knew that the people he was defending from these shooters were Jews, even Zionists? (He was, after all, approaching the first shooter from behind.) And if he did, would that have made a difference?

Regardless, don't you think that will be his defense if criticized as a "Zionist" by his fellow Muslims? Would such a defense even be effective?

only a Zionist can have this type of thinking process lmao , no matter what people do always find a reason to take them down

 

[hasssanali8998]

Responsibility for what exactly?

responsibly that he was a Pakistani , and we should do everything on our end to help the investigation

 

[Meengla]

Reading some of the comments posted in this thread reaffirms my personal belief of our nation being a danday walay qaum, fingers are getting pointed away from this incident towards the furthest of directions. Baaz aajo.

Right.
I don't think Pakistan's domestic politics should be brought into this thread. Whether the father-son duo was of Pakistani origin or not really doesn't matter and neither does Australia recognizing Palestine matters despite Netanyahu trying hard to lump the two events together (Australia recognizing Palestine and this incident).
This incident may well turn out to be those who lost some loved ones in the recent Gaza carnage or felt deeply for Gazans decided to target something easy to target. Lots of whackos are running around trying to find reasons to kill people--and it seems especially in America.

 

[hasssanali8998]

responsibly that he was a Pakistani , and we should do everything on our end to help the investigation

lets see how @Forsvaret includes Pakistani politics in this Lmao

 

[sutton9999]

I consider Australia a terrorist state, no sympathy.

 

[Desprado123]

Naveed Akram mother is name is Verna. Father had licence of gun since 10 years.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Whether the father-son duo was of Pakistani origin or not really doesn't matter

on the grand scheme of things yes it doesn't , but it should to us we should investigate where he got radicalized and stop that from happening to other Pakistanis

 

[hasssanali8998]

I consider Australia a terrorist state, no sympathy.

i wonder why

 

[Forsvaret]

responsibly that he was a Pakistani…

He having a Pakistani citizenship doesn’t make the country of Pakistan "responsible" for anything. 15 of the 19 hijackers involved in 9/11 terror attacks were Saudis. Yet, it was Afghanistan, Iraq & Pakistan (and lots of other unrelated Muslims) that paid its ultimate price:

 

[Meengla]

on the grand scheme of things yes it doesn't , but it should to us we should investigate where he got radicalized and stop that from happening to other Pakistanis

Well, I don't want to go into Pakistani politics but at least try to be aware of those elements in Pakistan who want to 'march on Islamabad' wearing Kaffan (burial shrouds) again and again. It is slippery slope from that kind of 'political' strategy to become suicide bombers.
Sigh!

 

[PakSword]

He having a Pakistani citizenship doesn’t make the country of Pakistan "responsible" for anything. 15 of the 19 hijackers involved in 9/11 terror attacks were Saudis. Yet, it was Afghanistan, Iraq & Pakistan (and lots of other unrelated Muslims) that paid its ultimate price:
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To be a Pakistani, one must have an valid Pakistani passport. Tell me when they find one.

I am sure those two were asylum seekers, granted the nationality later.

 

[hasssanali8998]

He having a Pakistani citizenship doesn’t make the country of Pakistan "responsible" for anything

""on the grand scheme of things yes it doesn't , but it should be to us we should investigate where he got radicalized and stop that from happening to other Pakistanis ""

that is my point , after every attack , the people that radicalized supported must be found and punished

 

[hasssanali8998]

Well, I don't want to go into Pakistani politics but at least try to be aware of those elements in Pakistan who want to 'march on Islamabad' wearing Kaffan (burial shrouds) again and again. It is slippery slope from that kind of 'political' strategy to become suicide bombers.
Sigh!

why are you acting like @Forsvaret , you reply is completely irrelevant to my comment