H-1B visas must end’: Wife of US citizen shares plight of landing IT jobs

[Ali_Baba]

Mark my post, H1B door closing will actually help move more jobs to India.. many of these cheap entry levels jobs are not going to remain in the US for long..

Already happening in a lot of sectors

‘Pharmacy of the world’: 55+ GCCs, 3 lakh jobs; India gears up to climb the pharma value chain | Delhi News - The Times of India

They may have started out by processing routine tasks for global majors, but Indian pharma GCCs have now become a magnet for talent and investment as .

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You are at an inflection point between AI generated workflows that look to automate some of what was being done in India that will have a downward pressure on the number of jobs in India and the "need" to move jobs to India, where AI automation can do that in the UK instead. The cost advantages of H1Bs in the USA is going away, so more locals can be hired to lead the revolution in AI. What is working against India, is AI and that will affect negatively more jobs in India, than the H1B scheme will "replace" as you suggest.

 

[Vkdindian1]

If you want to know what resistance looks like, something like Iran or Russia

Such lists have seen many additions and deletions in the past. We might see India in the list.

You either quickly agree or you go in for the long fight

Fastest finger first is not the best way always. It has proven well in many situations in history. I could be wrong though.

Ok if you want to bring Pakistan in, then you are fully aware of how things can turn so suddenly. Did you actually think you are untouchable?

The intention was not to troll but bring in a perspective. No one is untouchable in geopolitics. Vietnam proved it in 50s and Ukraine has proven it right now.

These days at least Pakistan has more geopolitical diversification, but again the region looks awful right now, in South Asia

Good going for you. Good luck.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Effective immediately. Trump new EO.

- $100k fee per H1B visa per year
- Renewable up to 6x max
- Applies to all current and new H1B visa holders
- If outside US and attempting to reenter, entry will be denied starting Sept 21, 2025.
- If you leave US and return, reentry will be denied, until your employer pays the 100k fee:


This has killed the H1B workforce in America. Gradually they will need to go back home.


Also OPT changes and offshore labor tax coming.

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WOW - I thought it was $100k for a renewal which lasts for 3 years, but at $100k per year, it really is game over ...

 

[r3alist]

Such lists have seen many additions and deletions in the past. We might see India in the list.

Fastest finger first is not the best way always. It has proven well in many situations in history. I could be wrong though.

The intention was not to troll but bring in a perspective. No one is untouchable in geopolitics. Vietnam proved it in 50s and Ukraine has proven it right now.
Good going for you. Good luck.

Nothing about this post is clear firm or decisive

Anyway this will be tomorrow's news soon enough, but again, all the clues were there a year ago

 

[Ali_Baba]

The language of the Presidential proclamation refers specifically to people currently outside the US, so it seems people already in the US , for whom companies are sponsoring visas, are not affected. Of course, they are restricted from travelling overseas because re-entry requires payment of this fee.

I am guessing the reason for this language is legalistic because the President can't really unilaterally upend a program that was created by Congress, so the administration is taking the entry ban route. Even that is going to be challenged in court and I would bet money on much of it being set aside, because collecting a 100K "hafta" without Congressional authority is just pure thuggery.

They become affected at renewal time of their VISA's.

 

[BrigSmart]

They become affected at renewal time of their VISA's.

Read the precise language of the proclamation . Even for renewals, it only affects people outside the US. Of course, one can argue that everyone is affected because they might have to travel outside the US at some point, but, per the language of the order, anyone who has no intention of leaving the US till the expiry of the visa can avoid this fee.

 

[Ali_Baba]

If the politicians can get a law through Congress, that is fine, but it is a huge overreach for the President to try and dismantle it on his own. In his first term, the entry ban from Muslim countries was thrown out. This is more egregious, so I don't think it will stand. The proper way to handle this, if the administration is serious , is to amend the law and put in these conditions. Trump is doing this mostly for theatrics and to convince current and future H1Bs on the fence to leave on their own. I will be very surprised if this EO does not get stayed almost immediately when the courts open next week.

Hold on - your statement is factually incorrect.

He is not trying to dismantle H1B. He is simply changing the fee for it. I cannot imagine changing the fee on anything in the USA requires congressional approval and I cant see how this requires a "new law". At most, this is a low level admin change.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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There are very few(if anything) that the orange idiot has done, that I agree with. But, today is a first, I agree with this policy. Not because it affects India or Indians, but because it gives locals a fighting chance at a career and life for themselves.

If a company wants to outsource to india, fine, doit.. but dont bring in someone to do that job and then fire the person who was doing it originally.

 

[BrigSmart]

Hold on - your statement is factually incorrect.

He is not trying to dismantle H1B. He is simply changing the fee for it. I cannot imagine changing the fee on anything in the USA requires congressional approval and I cant see how this requires a "new law". At most, this is a low level admin change.

If the fee is meant to cover the reasonable cost of processing the visa or any other reasonable expenses, that is within the purview of executive power. That is the reason the term "fee" has been used by the administration -to give it an appearance of a low level admin change, as you put it.

However, courts always look at substance over form. It is very difficult to argue that an additional 100K/year is a reasonable fee to process the visa and just a low level admin change and not a substantial tax on H1B sponsors. That will be one of the arguments the administration will make, but, in my opinion, it will not hold water. Let us wait till next week. We will find out which way the cookie will crumble.

 

[RescueRanger]

There are very few(if anything) that the orange idiot has done, that I agree with. But, today is a first, I agree with this policy. Not because it affects India or Indians, but because it gives locals a fighting chance at a career and life for them.

If a company wants to outsource to india, fine, doit.. but dont bring in someone to do that job and then fire the person who was doing it originally.

Most of the push back against legal migration in the western world is because of this demented practice of not protecting local workforce and ensuring local jobs for local workforce first - then surplus jobs can be allocated to migrant workers for visas etc.

The west just went full retard mode on Globalisation and the 'global village' post 2004.

 

[r3alist]

There are very few(if anything) that the orange idiot has done, that I agree with. But, today is a first, I agree with this policy. Not because it affects India or Indians, but because it gives locals a fighting chance at a career and life for themselves.

If a company wants to outsource to india, fine, doit.. but dont bring in someone to do that job and then fire the person who was doing it originally.

If top American graduates cannot get jobs, it actually makes a mockery of the American education system

The Indians really should have been far more sensitive to this, rather than suggesting that people coming from a third world education are better skilled than those from ivy League

At the signing the messaging was very clear, train up Americans to do these jobs.

And honestly it's not that hard because the Indians were initially trained up by the Americans, if you have bright clever grads, who might bring more to the table in terms of soft skills

Let me repeat, the Indians were initially trained by Americans.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Damn so many will be left out.

And - Pakistan is "doing its part" by adding 4hrs to the journey time by denying the use of its airspace ... so, some may not make it before the new guidelines "come into effect".

 

[Bilal]

There are very few(if anything) that the orange idiot has done, that I agree with. But, today is a first, I agree with this policy. Not because it affects India or Indians, but because it gives locals a fighting chance at a career and life for themselves.

If a company wants to outsource to india, fine, doit.. but dont bring in someone to do that job and then fire the person who was doing it originally.

Remember those 40% oF iNtEl ArE iNdIaNs type brags… lol

 

[Ali_Baba]

Read the precise language of the proclamation . Even for renewals, it only affects people outside the US. Of course, one can argue that everyone is affected because they might have to travel outside the US at some point, but, per the language of the order, anyone who has no intention of leaving the US till the expiry of the visa can avoid this fee.

Till the expiry before they are affeced, right.. so 3 years max, right? Or 1 year ?

 

[Ali_Baba]

If the fee is meant to cover the reasonable cost of processing the visa or any other reasonable expenses, that is within the purview of executive power. That is the reason the term "fee" has been used by the administration -to give it an appearance of a low level admin change, as you put it.

However, courts always look at substance over form. It is very difficult to argue that an additional 100K/year is a reasonable fee to process the visa and just a low level admin change and not a substantial tax on H1B sponsors. That will be one of the arguments the administration will make, but, in my opinion, it will not hold water. Let us wait till next week. We will find out which way the cookie will crumble.

Lets see how the appeal goes then, but the current USA administration does not seem to care much about rules or laws it seems and they seem to win more of their fights than they are losing right now.