HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Sure dude, we fully trust PAC to be capable of doing it on it's own.

To build an EW suite, PAC would need companies/labs that can design and fabricate:
> GaAs or GaN RF chips
> Ultra-wideband receivers
> Digital RF Memory (DRFM) boards
> Very low noise amplifiers
> High-power microwave amplifiers
> Direction-finding arrays
> Full-size anechoic chamber
> RCS testing labs
> RF calibration cells
> Threat-emitter simulators
> Pulse and frequency test rigs
> Radiation pattern measurement rooms
> ECM/ECCM test facilities



...And a lot more. I'm sure PAC has all of them. No wonder JF is flying with PAC made AESA radar as well.

You're being desperate good to hear that, what was the convo all about? Development of capabilities, not muh missile do this and that.

They help in developing other technologies for future. Countries that actually develop tech need tech demonstrators. One example I recall is Dassault Neuron and many others.

Combat capability wise PAF is second to none, has defeated India everytime, I agree. IAF should quit flying

Indeed, even if that was true, license production still requires local industrial capabilities to be able to fabricate that.




I'm not derailing this thread, your own friends are who start spamming "tejas fail haha funny endia samosa" on every post here

Keep coping with claims of random startups doing some unveilling totally unrelated to LCA. But I know why you're being desperate for it.

tejas flies or not!
impressive ability to collect superfluous 'lists' not surprising given that you are a fake maverick!

 

[onlinpunit]

What would you call MK1?

MK1 : All 40 nos delivered
MK1A : Delayed but partially Delivered.
MK2 : First Flight in 2026

 

[Ibbi32]

I'm not sure if this is the right time to discuss this, however.

I have a feeling that incidents like this will reinforce the US point of view that India should first acquire a US 4.5 Gen Jet and develop its capabilities before moving on to the F-35, instead of pursuing the F-35 directly. If that happens, we can expect a cut in the Tejas order (especially the second one).

Timing

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I feel people are forgetting the us can’t actually get india to buy f35 even if they wanted to. The aircraft is still the intellectual property of LM and they are not in favour of selling it to india. LM has for last 20 years pitched india f-16Vs for this reason as neither they or us allies would want india to have access to the restricted platform

 

[Ibbi32]

Easy to paint chinese products green. Meanwhile Su-30 MKI is more Indian than JF is pakistani.

Yes mashing together isreali and french avionics on a russian plane is as indian as it gets

 

[CallSignMaverick]

Is tejas flying with an Indian AESA?

It will be integrated in the series production variants, the 2nd tranche was contracted with Elta ones. At least, we have our own AESA radars that we can fiddle with and deploy.

Because i sure as hell know PAC begun development of a Pakistani X band AESA for JF-17 about 4 years ago, with TRM's developed and designed by NUST in house. But once again, you're out of your depth, talking about a project you have the littlest, to no clue on.

I'm sure NUST has
> GaN fabs
> TRM assembly lines
> Anechoic chambers
> Thermal & microwave simulation teams
> Mission computer authority
> ECCM waveform engineering
> High-power TWT replacements
> EMI/EMC test labs
> Radome–radar calibration labs
> Systems integration rigs etc.

If LCA-N was a demonstrator only, the final LCA would have had some significant design changes to make it operation, yet both you and i know that wouldnt have happened, because for all intents and purposes, it was a modified LCA, so it was a ready to go product. But sure, spin it off as a demonstrator/developmental exercise if that makes you cope better

Navy needed a twin engine jet, no Navy on earth uses single engine fighter jets, except the F-35C which is in a league of its own. Leaving LCA-N as tech demonstrator even if it wasn't intended to be one.

Its ok, the IAF will crash itself into squadron depletion anyway.

We'll buy more off even if that happens.

one was delivered into the ground the other day


i couldnt hold myself back with that one.

And still India won't beg IMF to get money to replace it

I just find it amusing actually, dindus screech over china, while rebadging chinese kit as indian, im sure its not the only example either. Maybe thats where you get the paint green cope from?

How is some startup selling chinese stuff related to LCA?

tejas flies or not!
impressive ability to collect superfluous 'lists' not surprising given that you are a fake maverick!

I'm an ECE engineer, I certainly know more than real mavericks here.

Yes mashing together isreali and french avionics on a russian plane is as indian as it gets

That was decades ago, the mid-life upgrade will replace much of what was of foreign origin. key here is, we managed to make our own systems eventually.

 

[Yasser76]

Indeed

No Tejas will ever be delivered.

See, occasionally you can post factual stuff, not hard is it!?

 

[SABRE]

Tejas is the perfect example of the phrase, "that if you don't at first succeed, try, try and try again .."

To be fair, India will eventually get there, at Indian speed of course.

HAL's delivery of Tejas be like:

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[Trailer23]

It seems that TEJAs is the ONLY f#*kin' Aircraft/Jet on God's Green Earth where the Safety/Crash Record is calculated by when the Project actually started (on Paper) back in ...what ... 1981. Or after its First (Test) Flight in 2001.

I'm sorry if it may bother the Indians, but that is NOT how you calculate the rate of Crashes.

Its when a Jet is delivered to an Air Force/Nation. In this case, could someone please tell me when it was inducted in the ... Flying Daggers (as part of IAF inventory).

During its phase as HAL Jet doing countless hours - means d!ck.

No Company (Lockheed Martin/Boeing/SAAB/Dassault/Bombardier/Embrear/CATIC etc.) count Test Flight crashes.

Don't give us this sh!t that those rules don't apply to HAL.

 

[hasssanali8998]

could someone please tell me when it was inducted in the

1st july 2016

 

[Ibbi32]

Navy needed a twin engine jet, no Navy on earth uses single engine fighter jets, except the F-35C which is in a league of its own. Leaving LCA-N as tech demonstrator even if it wasn't intended to be one.

Ik this is probably bait and i wont even try to answer the rest but navies dont actually care about twin or single engine fighters. Yes most navies use twin engine fighters but that’s not because they are capable of performing single engine operations in case of engine failure. This is one of the common points brought up by many to explain why f-16 was not chosen by navy for its own LWF program but reality is the us navy just didnt want the f-16 because a) it was an airforce program and the navy would be saddled with an unsuitable aircraft whose development it couldn’t control. 2) USN was frankly fed up with the disaster that was f-111B program and absolutely refused to get rid of its own requirements to make way for other branches
3) thrust output of a single engine f-16 though enough for carrier operations wasnt enough for the performance and speeds the navy wanted for their aircraft whilst carrying combat loads.

I know i derailed the thread a bit by going over US fighter program but I wanted to clarify that dual engines mean nothing in scheme of things as the bigger problem is almost always politics between service branches or the aircrafts airframe being too limited for naval operations. The fact that IN would rather keep operating their faulty mig-29k fleet that takes up so much space on a cramped flight deck tells me more than enough that beyond politics navy judged tejas airframe limitations to make it utterly irrelevant for carrier operations even more than what the limited fleet of mig-29s can accomplish

 

[baqai]

MK1 : All 40 nos delivered
MK1A : Delayed but partially Delivered.
MK2 : First Flight in 2026

MK1: can you please share the combined operational flight hours of this particular airframe? e.g. JF-17 has more than 18k operational hours and has seen active combat

 

[hasssanali8998]

JF-17 has more than 18k operational hours and has seen active combat

brother its much more than that . in 2019 it was 40000 jas to be grater than 100 k by now

 

[Khanivore]

Ex-IAF pilot Harjeet Singh explains the problem with Tejas, it's design flaw and what happened at Dubai show.

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[onlinpunit]

MK1: can you please share the combined operational flight hours of this particular airframe? e.g. JF-17 has more than 18k operational hours and has seen active combat

That's difficult to say. The first Flight of Tejas took place in 2001. Since then 12000 hours of flight have been done by all variants ( TD, PV, LSP, IOC and FOC). ( As per chat got).

 

[Dark-Lord]

Ex-IAF pilot Harjeet Singh explains the problem with Tejas, it's design flaw and what happened at Dubai show.

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No IAF pilot there by name of Harjeet Singh in past 40 years (this guy is definitely not 65+).