HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

[Bhojpuranchali]

No you're wrong F16s has combat radius of 700 km

The F-16 Fighting Falcon's combat radius is 550 km (340 mi) on a hi-lo-hi mission with six 450 kg (1,000 lb) bombs.

 

[Bhojpuranchali]

Su-30MKI has a combat radius of 3,000 kilometers, what an absolute beast it is. Tejas MK2 will also have a combat radius of 1,500 kilometers, enough to strike deep inside Pakistan. Additionally, it won't have a huge RCS like the Su-30MKI, making it more suited for missions that require carrying out strikes with surgical precision.

 

[Guynextdoor]

Name any 5th gen jet of Europe currently operated by Europe?

F35

 

[Yasser76]

My bad. I quoted Dhanoa on J20 and not J31. J20 had issues, J31 I am not aware of. Looks wise, I find it good. In any case looks is not the department where an aircraft needs to excel, but where it matters it should.
It could be a capable platform.

Nonetheless, India can’t halt all its efforts on this front because China seems to be ahead of us.


Trolling? I will let it pass. A man needs a little bit of this to try and derail threads and flame bait. Poor effort though.

Cool, so you pretty much admit you dont even know what you are posting on this thread. you and Dhanoa bought up basing aircraft capabilties on "looks"....

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Su-30MKI has a combat radius of 3,000 kilometers, what an absolute beast it is. Tejas MK2 will also have a combat radius of 1,500 kilometers, enough to strike deep inside Pakistan. Additionally, it won't have a huge RCS like the Su-30MKI, making it more suited for missions that require carrying out strikes with surgical precision.

Source? F16 has 700 km combat radius in air defense missions

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

F35

This is from USA,and only for QE class carrier and they have very few less then 40 or so, mean how many 5th gen jets develop by Europe and in service (I mean indigenously develop by Europe)?

 

[harpy1]

Cool, so you pretty much admit you dont even know what you are posting on this thread. you and Dhanoa bought up basing aircraft capabilties on "looks"....

You people are serious cheer leader for china.s achievements

I guess cause you buy their equipment the most

TBF some their stuff looks amazing

The first really impressive weapons you ever acquired was the J10c

I quite like the new hangor subs your getting

Also I here you brought some Chinese mbrl.

So fair play

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

You people are serious cheer leader for china.s achievements

I guess cause you buy their equipment the most

TBF some their stuff looks amazing

The first really impressive weapons you ever acquired was the J10c

I quite like the new hangor subs your getting

Also I here you brought some Chinese mbrl.

So fair play

Forget to refer Type 54AP Frigates

 

[vkdindian]

Cool, so you pretty much admit you dont even know what you are posting on this thread.

I have no issues in accepting an honest mistakes. There are many ahem…. who keep going on and on and on, once they have adopted a line.
Try looking around. There may be one very close to you.

For some of these, everything made by or imported by India is all bad and everything made by Paksiatn or China is world class. So much for bhaktorapanti.

 

[Archie]

I expects India to induct and retain
200Tejas mark1a 2020-2050+
200Tejas mark2 2030-2060+
125 Super mki 2026-02060
125 ,mki 2000-2045
36-72 Rafale F3/5 2020-2070
200 Amca 2040-2080

That seems accurate for most parts

However with these timeliness
I don't see Indian Airforce reaching 42 sqds before 2045

 

[harpy1]

Forget to refer Type 54AP Frigates

That frigates will be eaten up by Indian kolkatta Vizag class destroyers armed with brahimos cruise missiles. Or the new scorpene subs or Poseidon USA maritime planes ..

Best keep them three or four ships close to your coastline so your Airforce can help

 

[harpy1]

That seems accurate for most parts

However with these timeliness
I don't see Indian Airforce reaching 42 sqds before 2045

The Indians have this narrative all wrong bro globally air forces are set to decline in number as more efficient weapons enter the air dominance role

Drones
Ballistic missiles
More accurate stand off weapons
More lethel fifth generation fighters that can't be detected

India will not need 42 squadrons im.shocked our baffoon backward air chiefs still believe in pregulf war air doctrine and concept and
still spout this garbage

What I listed above is all we need msx squadron 35 in numbers 650 planes

Our investment should be on
Our drones technology
Anti drones capability
Artificial intelligence
Stand off air launched missiles all ranges
Land based missiles like super brahmos
Work.high efficient service levels and constantly upgrade radars and missiles
Improve our tactics via training USA nato the quad and israel

 

[harpy1]

Right now the Russians are beating NATO backed Ukraine with shear volumes of ballistic missiles drones and artillery massed infantry firepower.

Ukraine has better air support and drones and real time USA intel but the Russians are doing to them what they did to Germany in WW2 shear massive numbers and fire power

 

[Faceless]

The Indians have this narrative all wrong bro globally air forces are set to decline in number as more efficient weapons enter the air dominance role

Drones
Ballistic missiles
More accurate stand off weapons
More lethel fifth generation fighters that can't be detected

India will not need 42 squadrons i.shocked our baffoon backward premier gulf war air chiefs still spout this garbage

What do you expect from a airforce who's Air Marshals call J 20 a 3.5 gen aircraft.

Rafale superior to Chinese J-20: A comparison of the two fighter jets

Even though Rafale is a 4.5 generation aircraft and China claims that its J-20 is a 5th generation, the Rafale has enough capabilities to counter the Chinese premier aircraft, say experts.

www.indiatoday.in

This is the calibre of many officers in the Indian Armed Forces, a paper pusher corrupt to the core blabbermouth who is ignorant of the enemy's capability (maybe knowingly).

Regarding the Future of the Indian Airforce here is my assessment with respect to Global Trends.
1. 200 Tejas Mk1A That will stay useful as Interceptors well into the 2060s because no loyal wingman or AI pilot is going to be as decisive and a human pilot. (I think we don't need this many Mk1, as it will eat away the Mk2 orderbook which is already facing Delays and the risk of being dead on arrival)

2. Over 200 Tejas Mk 2 Will Remain Useful Till the 2070s But over half of them (powered by the New Engine) need to be twin seater with a WSO who Less maneuverable, Subsonic, act as an effective Loyal Wingman Operator.
3. Over 150 upgraded Su 30MKI that will remain useful till the 2060s as bomb trucks, and EW planes
4. 36-72 Rafale that will remain useful till the 2060s as a spearhead of non stealth formations
5. Over 120 AMCA Mk1 and Mk2 Will Remain Useful Till the 2070s as a spearhead of stealth formations with loyal wingmans accompanying them (AMCA mk2 will be 5.5 gen twin seater with a WSO who will act as an effective Loyal Wingman Operator.)
(Folks are seriously overestimation the AI pilot, yes it can perform the task of controlling the aircraft but the tasks (mainly decision making) of the human pilot is also increasing overwhelmingly and more tasks can't be pushed at the AI)

6. Loyal Wingmans - There will be 3 basic types
1. Likes of NeurOn UCAV - Expensive, Less maneuverable, Subsonic, High Stealth, for Recon and SEAD/DEAD missions
2. Likes of XQ 58 Valkyrie - Cheap, Less maneuverable, Subsonic, Mass Produced for Bombing Runs and Sacrificing itself whenever needed
3. Likes of MQ28 Ghostbat - Expensive, Highly maneuverable, Supersonic, work similarly to a full fledged fighter aircraft and Act as the eyes and ears of the strike package,

I am not sure about the numbers in which these loyal wingmans are going to be inducted, but I think neither is any airforce in the would at the moment, given it's a totally new technology no less disruptive than the 1st Surface to Air Missiles

 

[harpy1]

@ faceless ...I'm not convinced with Indian air force top brass
They are not in tune with lessons from modern warfare
Pakistan seems ahead in planning with fraction of our resources

We should be way ahead