HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

[MirageBlue]

Frankly I don't give a s"%t or have any concern about the safety of Modi or either chief. I was just surprised at the lack of protocol and controls allowing a situation to develop where you can loose two cheifs in an instant, this does not happen anywhere in the world. Forty years of stagnant development with zero buyer will make you do crazy stunts.
Take it from somebody who did this for a living over multiple decades, listen carefully, shit happens in aviation and in fighters it happens faster, there is no fail safe aircraft.

Do give your gyaan to someone else. The Tejas trainer has been used to give back seat joy rides to a bunch of people, including the following:

- Singaporean Def Min Ng Eng Hen
- USAF Chief of Staff David Goldfein
- French Chief of Staff Andre Lanata
- Luftwaffe Chief of Staff Ingo Gerhartz
- Spanish Air Force Chief of Staff Francisco Carbo
- Indian Defence Minister Rajnath Singh
- Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi
- Multiple Indian Air Chief Marshals (Arup Raha, RK Bhadauria, VR Chaudhari, AP Singh)

They are all aware of the risks of flying in a fighter and especially a single engine one. The Tejas' safety record inspires confidence, so whatever else you want to attribute it to (not selling, so trying hard to market or whatever) it doesn't matter. They are not forced into the cockpit. They know what they're doing.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

As he said before, "Technology delayed is technology denied", if he has no confidence in timelines and need planes asap, do you know what the end result of that will be or is your head still firmly in the sand on this one?

No, actually, as long as our neighbouring countries are operating similarly capable aircraft with comparable technology, the delay on technology perspective is not the primary concern.

The main issue is the gradual depletion of the Air Force fleet and the need to replace older-generation fighter jets to maintain operational strength.

 

[Yasser76]

No, actually, as long as our neighbouring countries are operating similarly capable aircraft with comparable technology, the delay on technology perspective is not the primary concern.

The main issue is the gradual depletion of the Air Force fleet and the need to replace older-generation fighter jets to maintain operational strength.

China is operating similar aircraft? Maybe step back and stop posting for a while?

 

[Cryptonian]

China is operating similar aircraft? Maybe step back and stop posting for a while?

LCA is not mainly for Chinese front. It's pity that you spend hours on Indian AF threads yet don't know.

 

[MirageBlue]

Huge order for 97 Tejas Mk1A and 156 LCH Prachand gunships in the offing in the next 3 to 6 months.

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[Yasser76]

LCA is not mainly for Chinese front. It's pity that you spend hours on Indian AF threads yet don't know.

Ah, sorry did not get memo that IAF is now refusing to fight China. Glad you have access to special insider information

Makes complete sense though

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

China is operating similar aircraft? Maybe step back and stop posting for a while?

Are all aircraft upgraded to 5th gen fighters?

As discussed multiple times before, HAL Tejas Mk1A has a specific role within the Indian Air Force (IAF)

There’s no need to compare or create confusion—PAF, with its limited resources, is content with the JF-17 (similarly capable lightweight aircraft) having a different role with PAF. However, even if India had developed the JF-17, its role would still remain the same as an interceptor today with IAF. and Airforce would be looking more capable aircrafts

Air force requirements vary from country to country. The Chinese Air Force (PLAAF) does not require lightweight fighters like the JF-17, as their focus is on acquiring more advanced and capable aircraft to counter regional neighbors and the United States.

Similarly, the Indian Air Force (IAF) sought an aircraft to replace the MiG-21 in its interceptor role.

Is there a delay?
Yes.

Is the technology outdated?
No.

Many fighter aircraft currently operated by Pakistan and China still lack AESA radars and advanced BVR missiles. If the HAL Tejas Mk1A is equipped with both AESA radar and BVR missiles—and upgraded to carry Astra-2 missiles with a range of over 150 km—it will be more than capable of fulfilling the interceptor role. This will remain effective as long as neighbouring countries continue to operate similar 4th gen aircrafts.

We are fully aware that the Chinese Air Force (PLAAF) is significantly larger and operates more advanced fleets. This is one of the key reasons why India prioritizes acquiring MRCA (Medium-Weight Combat Aircraft) and is actively developing the HAL Tejas Mk2 to enhance its air combat capabilities.

He is expressing the same concerns regarding the delay.

That being said, HAL Tejas Mk1A production is ongoing, with five aircraft already built and currently awaiting engines. Manufacturing has not stopped, and once the engine supply issue is resolved, deliveries are expected to accelerate.

 

[Cryptonian]

Ah, sorry did not get memo that IAF is now refusing to fight China. Glad you have access to special insider information

Makes complete sense though

Chinese border is quite peaceful compared to Pakistani one. Looks like they missed Pakistani's memo to attack on their behalf.

LCA is enough for Pakistan. Might free up some su30 front western front. China will face Mig29UPG and SU30s with upcoming AESA upgrades.

 

[Yasser76]

Chinese border is quite peaceful compared to Pakistani one. Looks like they missed Pakistani's memo to attack on their behalf.

LCA is enough for Pakistan. Might free up some su30 front western front. China will face Mig29UPG and SU30s with upcoming AESA upgrades.

Ah right, got yoy, so IAF will only be able to fight PLAAF with certain squadrons and not others. Was not aware of this strategy?

You do realise the entire forum, is reading this BS and laughing right?

 

[Yasser76]

Are all aircraft upgraded to 5th gen fighters?

As discussed multiple times before, HAL Tejas Mk1A has a specific role within the Indian Air Force (IAF)

There’s no need to compare or create confusion—PAF, with its limited resources, is content with the JF-17 (similarly capable lightweight aircraft) having a different role with PAF. However, even if India had developed the JF-17, its role would still remain the same as an interceptor today with IAF. and Airforce would be looking more capable aircrafts

Air force requirements vary from country to country. The Chinese Air Force (PLAAF) does not require lightweight fighters like the JF-17, as their focus is on acquiring more advanced and capable aircraft to counter regional neighbors and the United States.

Similarly, the Indian Air Force (IAF) sought an aircraft to replace the MiG-21 in its interceptor role.

Is there a delay?
Yes.

Is the technology outdated?
No.

Many fighter aircraft currently operated by Pakistan and China still lack AESA radars and advanced BVR missiles. If the HAL Tejas Mk1A is equipped with both AESA radar and BVR missiles—and upgraded to carry Astra-2 missiles with a range of over 150 km—it will be more than capable of fulfilling the interceptor role. This will remain effective as long as neighbouring countries continue to operate similar 4th gen aircrafts.

We are fully aware that the Chinese Air Force (PLAAF) is significantly larger and operates a more advanced fleet. This is one of the key reasons why India prioritizes acquiring MRCA (Medium-Weight Combat Aircraft) and is actively developing the HAL Tejas Mk2 to enhance its air combat capabilities.

He is expressing the same concerns regarding the delay.

That being said, HAL Tejas Mk1A production is ongoing, with five aircraft already built and currently awaiting engines. Manufacturing has not stopped, and once the engine supply issue is resolved, deliveries are expected to accelerate.

I'm not reading all that BS, a usual it will make little sense and waste time

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

I'm not reading all that BS, a usual it will make little sense and waste time

So come with Provide a technology comparison of the aircrafts and substantiate the claim that the technology used in HAL Tejas is outdated in south Asia. Thanks!

 

[Yasser76]

@Musings @arslank01

So now I have to put up with this.

 

[Ak01]

You are not laughing at bs now, I see . Womp womp .

You should shut up and stop baiting also, ive warned you, the next one for a similar offense will be repeated violation and will lead to a timeout, then eventually ban.

Womp Womp.

 

[MirageBlue]

So come with Provide a technology comparison of the aircrafts and substantiate the claim that the technology used in HAL Tejas is outdated in south Asia. Thanks!

let the troll say whatever he wants. His opinion doesn't matter one bit outside of his own head. As things stand, IAF is looking to order 97 more Tejas Mk1A.

the IAF ACM is upset with HAL due to them not being delivered on time, not with the capability of the fighter, which he flies regularly himself.

His beloved PAF is flying 200+ F-7PG and Mirage variants that are the most obsolete in the entire sub-continent (barring those Bangladeshi F-7s perhaps) & their economy won't let them get more than 40-50 new fighters in this decade. But he wants to focus on our troubles. Typical case of the neighbor who lives in a dilapidated house that is crumbling but is laughing at the neighbor's peeling paint.

 

[MirageBlue]