HAL LCA Tejas: Updates, News & Discussions

Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise said:
4th-generation fighters will not be obsolete in the 5th-gen era but will shift from frontline dominance to specialized and support roles, especially when paired with networked capabilities. When upgraded, they still offer excellent capability at lower cost in many strategic scenarios.
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Yes, you are right, but also missing the point. PAF showed IAF the importance of a battle network on 7th May.

Assets and training in this area is woeful in IAF.

Lack of AEW, lack of 5th gen, lack of air force wide data link system etc etc

How will you link a 4th gen fighter into a network that does not exist?
 
Yasser76 said:
Yes, you are right, but also missing the point. PAF showed IAF the importance of a battle network on 7th May.

Assets and training in this area is woeful in IAF.

Lack of AEW, lack of 5th gen, lack of air force wide data link system etc etc

How will you link a 4th gen fighter into a network that does not exist?
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Even with fourth-generation jets, Indian Air Force is capable of striking targets across the entire length and breadth of Pakistan as demonstrated in Operation Sindoor. the element of surprise played a major role in the Balakot airstrike but, it was not present during Operation Sindoor — yet the mission was successfully executed.
Indian Air Force has the capability and planning to conduct deep-strike operations inside Pakistan even without stealth fighter jets. That’s not to say stealth fighters aren’t needed, but India has shown it can carry out bombing missions inside Pakistan effectively even in their absence.
 
Yasser76 said:
Yes, you are right, but also missing the point. PAF showed IAF the importance of a battle network on 7th May.

Assets and training in this area is woeful in IAF.

Lack of AEW, lack of 5th gen, lack of air force wide data link system etc etc

How will you link a 4th gen fighter into a network that does not exist?
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Good observation, I hope India has learned from its last two defeats and will now modernize its air defense capabilities to match or surpass Pakistan’s. If I were entrusted with managing the Indian Air Force and Army, I would implement sweeping reforms, prioritizing cutting edge air defense systems and integrating all assets into a domestically developed network-centric warfare framework. Given India’s vast economic resources, it can afford to invest heavily in defense R&D and procurement.

The Indian Air Force must streamline its fleet, eliminating maintenance nightmares caused by operating too many disparate platforms. Instead, India should focus on fielding a lean, lethal force centered around 4.5+ and fifth-generation fighters, phasing out or selling older aircraft to allies. This shift would enhance operational efficiency, reduce logistical burdens, and ensure dominance in future conflicts.
 
HAL is hopeless. It doesn't even enough engineers. It is high time government involved private sector big time. Look how it has done wonders for small items and boosted Indian defense export. No country with this little PCI builds weapons worth anything. Perhaps with private sector, we can turn this sector around in 10-15 years.
 
hussain0216 said:
I don't see the point of Tejas anymore

India has enough planes for the moment at least

If AMCA is it's 5th Gen option, then it needs to sink resources into the project to get it made and delivered ASAP

India might need a Su57 purchase to cover some years


India would be better placed if it spent it's finance on upgrading the SU35s and getting more Rafael's


The time for Tejas was 20 years ago, at a minimum india might need the Tejas 2 for numbers but is it worth sinking money into the platform
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Agreed. If you ask me, Tejas is dead in the water (or on ground ... but not in the air). But HAL will drag its feet to keep the programme going, even if the IAF isn't interested. Otherwise it hasn't got any major project in production to keep its work force busy and fanboys satisfied. On the R&D scale, AMCA is only in the preliminary phase of the "R," so its not going to cut it at this stage. Pragmatism would dictate swallowing the organisational interest and put exculsive focus on AMCA.
 
SABRE said:
Agreed. If you ask me, Tejas is dead in the water (or on ground ... but not in the air). But HAL will drag its feet to keep the programme going, even if the IAF isn't interested. Otherwise it hasn't got any major project in production to keep its work force busy and fanboys satisfied. On the R&D scale, AMCA is only in the preliminary phase of the "R," so its not going to cut it at this stage. Pragmatism would dictate swallowing the organisational interest and put exculsive focus on AMCA.
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It actually suits Pakistan that they keep putting money, time and effort into the Tejas

It's become a albatross on the necks of the IAF

It's not totally useless, but what's the point now
 
Vishnu Hypersonic Cruise said:
Even with fourth-generation jets, Indian Air Force is capable of striking targets across the entire length and breadth of Pakistan as demonstrated in Operation Sindoor. the element of surprise played a major role in the Balakot airstrike but, it was not present during Operation Sindoor — yet the mission was successfully executed.
Indian Air Force has the capability and planning to conduct deep-strike operations inside Pakistan even without stealth fighter jets. That’s not to say stealth fighters aren’t needed, but India has shown it can carry out bombing missions inside Pakistan effectively even in their absence.
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OK, crazy hour at the asylum is over now.

It os obvious you are a fantasist

Bye
 
frontline360news said:
Good observation, I hope India has learned from its last two defeats and will now modernize its air defense capabilities to match or surpass Pakistan’s. If I were entrusted with managing the Indian Air Force and Army, I would implement sweeping reforms, prioritizing cutting edge air defense systems and integrating all assets into a domestically developed network-centric warfare framework. Given India’s vast economic resources, it can afford to invest heavily in defense R&D and procurement.

The Indian Air Force must streamline its fleet, eliminating maintenance nightmares caused by operating too many disparate platforms. Instead, India should focus on fielding a lean, lethal force centered around 4.5+ and fifth-generation fighters, phasing out or selling older aircraft to allies. This shift would enhance operational efficiency, reduce logistical burdens, and ensure dominance in future conflicts.
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Ironically, the guy on Youtube who is suggesting all this (and a very wise chap by all means) Swarney, is hated as being anti-Indian.

This is the dilemma India has. Anyone who suggests things are wrong is attacked. How do you improve in such an atmmosphere?
 
Be dazzled said:
The entire project is plaqued with delays. Unreal stuff.
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It is basically over.

No one in Indian Government, HAL, IAF has the balla to come out and say it, they are letting it drag on and on. I predicated in 2024 that 2025 would be the death of the Tejas and so it has become so.

Just like Arjun MK1 and MK2 tank projects have been quietly shelved but technically still "alive", same is happning to Tejas, for saving face this is now being put on the backburner. The additional 97 aircraft order for MK1A that was supposed to be "imminent" for over 4 years now has not been placed.

The world and indeed India have moved on.
 
Yasser76 said:
It is basically over.

No one in Indian Government, HAL, IAF has the balla to come out and say it, they are letting it drag on and on. I predicated in 2024 that 2025 would be the death of the Tejas and so it has become so.

Just like Arjun MK1 and MK2 tank projects have been quietly shelved but technically still "alive", same is happning to Tejas, for saving face this is now being put on the backburner. The additional 97 aircraft order for MK1A that was supposed to be "imminent" for over 4 years now has not been placed.

The world and indeed India have moved on.
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