How China blew up its own future

[Corax]

Every dog that works for it harder and smarter has its day for as long as it does that, yes.

Not necessarily, that's not what history shows.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

You’re engaging in whataboutism as our resident American wumao?

Economists do not “almost never recognize” China as the top economy; they usually say “China is larger by PPP, the US is larger by nominal GDP,” because those measures answer different questions.

China has long relied on global design and engineering networks for elite projects, which is true of many countries, including us - that is a shitty point to make and the you go and muddy yourself with the shipbuilding sheepish nonsense. Chinese have massive resilience in shipbuilding which is both larger and better protected than our bullshit granny rubber stamping defective metals for submarine hulls.

Stop being Baghdad bob - our exceptionalism isn’t is self fellatio which you seem to be really good at but introspection and getting things right after falling down - that is what China lacks due to their authoritarian policies and what orange buffoon and his white ISIS cabal are trying to destroy and ironically make us more like a China or North Korea.

You can’t beat someone if you keep sucking your own withering behind trying to look big while failing on every major metric that defines developed countries.

My friend, you are wasting your time. He lives in a different reality.

 

[SecularNationalist]

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It's not me who said it.

I guess the number is pretty much accurate.

Of course people will say it's not true, because USA has Windows, Nvidia, OpenAI, etc.

But China also has those things too.

Anyway, USA is declining country, while China is on the rise, the gap is getting bigger and bigger.

That's true but I think the only thing that's stopping china from going truly global is the language barrier. Almost no one knows Chinese outside china. Because of English language US has a cultural penetration all over the world. While the Chinese culture stays inside china. Same reason the world uses windows,nividia etc but doesn't matter how good Chinese softwares and devices are they don't get much penetration. Huawei smartphones and operating systems are best example. Another is beidou navigation system,it's better than GPS but Google maps is used by everyone.

 

[VCheng]

Not necessarily, that's not what history shows.

Hey, if that helps you cope with reality, it is a good thing by me.

(See, those out get outsmarted often justify their failures by claiming they were cheated out of fair win. It is a well-known coping mechanism.)

 

[Corax]

Hey, if that helps you cope with reality, it is a good thing by me.

(See, those out get outsmarted often justify their failures by claiming they were cheated out of fair win. It is a well-known coping mechanism.)

I suggest you read more history

 

[atmi_bum]

Japanese are too proud to accept that they are doomed. But this is not same with China. Chinese society is more open to outside as compare to Japan.

We shall see. Depends on how many are allowed in. There's a tipping point that turns tolerance into intolerance. I am seeing it here in the US regarding Indians.

Why doesn't your India allow large number of immigrants then ? China is already overcrowded.

India is not facing a demographic collapse like China, which needs immigration to sustain its economy. India has surpassed China to become the most populous country in the world. The last thing it needs is more people.

 

[Corax]

We shall see. Depends on how many are allowed in. There's a tipping point that turns tolerance into intolerance. I am seeing it here in the US regarding Indians.

India is not facing a demographic collapse like China, which needs immigration to sustain its economy. India has surpassed China to become the most populous country in the world. The last thing it needs is more people.

Not yet it's not, but india's population is ageing as well.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Wow, you think America will remain top dog until doomsday?! you sound just like any other fantasy fanboy from Russia, China, india etc

There’s not another country in the same orbit as America, besides China. China fumbling its economy and catastrophic TFR will ensure American hegemony in perpetuity. As I said, it’s difficult to accept for the likes of you.

 

[Corax]

There’s not another country in the same orbit as America, besides China. China fumbling its economy and catastrophic TFR will ensure American hegemony in perpetuity. As I said, it’s difficult to accept for the likes of you.

Sure, ok buddy, go take your meds now you're sounding even worse than those claiming a "thousand year Reich"

 

[F-22Raptor]

Sure, ok buddy, go take your meds now you're sounding even worse than those claiming a "thousand year Reich"

You cite history as evidence that all empires die yet there’s never been a continental sized hyperpower with the wealth, talent, geographic advantage, and resources the US possesses.

 

[VCheng]

I suggest you read more history

I do, and that is how I know I am right about what I am saying here.

Like I said, if it works for you, then I happy to accept that it does.

On topic, China has a difficult demographics problem to solve, and USA has to work hard to maintain its lead, since its leadership cannot be taken for granted.

 

[ety]

We shall see. Depends on how many are allowed in. There's a tipping point that turns tolerance into intolerance. I am seeing it here in the US regarding Indians.

India is not facing a demographic collapse like China, which needs immigration to sustain its economy. India has surpassed China to become the most populous country in the world. The last thing it needs is more people.

So is China doesnt need immigrations, it's already overcrowded. India will get there soon before population declines.

 

[Corax]

You cite history as evidence that all empires die yet there’s never been a continental sized hyperpower with the wealth, talent, geographic advantage, and resources the US possesses.

History also teaches us there's always a first time.

 

[RealNapster]

We shall see. Depends on how many are allowed in. There's a tipping point that turns tolerance into intolerance. I am seeing it here in the US regarding Indians.

Its not like they will be implementing only one solution. A little bit of this and a little bit of that will help.

Like , say technological advancememt, robots, AI , and dark factories reduces need for human workers by alot. So your demand for manpower reduces by more than 50-60%. And with that, you can then import 100000-250000 skilled migrants every year. For a country of 1.4 billion, I dont think this much low rate of migration will bring any cultural or demographic issues. But it will help reduce the burden on economy.

 

[VCheng]

Like , say technological advancememt, robots, AI , and dark factories reduces need for human workers by alot. So your demand for manpower reduces by more than 50-60%.

That is merely an assumption at this point.