How US' New Missile Will Be A Game Changer In Indo-Pacific

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The US has deployed its new long-range air-to-air missile that could potentially disrupt the balance of power in the Indo-Pacific in the US-China 'Cold War'. The AIM-174B missile, onboard the US Navy's F-18 Super Hornet, as seen in many pictures, is known to have an operational range of approximately 400 km.

The AIM-174B derivative of the Raytheon SM-6 surface-to-air missile operated out of US naval platforms. The SM-6 is a multi-role missile used for anti-air warfare, anti-ballistic missiles, and anti-surface warfare.

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The AIM-174B was reportedly first spotted during the Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) exercise, the world's largest naval exercise with 26 participants. The missile was attached to a hardpoint under the wings of the Super Hornet, garnering attention due to its potential to disrupt the balance of power in the air.

All About AIM-17B

Air Interceptor Missile (AIM)-174B is the air-to-air version of the SM-6 missile. It is readily available due to the existing production line for the SM-6 missile. The Raytheon SM-6 missile has a booster stage, which propels the missile into the air, followed by a solid rocket booster and sustainer motor of the missile work to hit the target.

The SM-6 weighs around 1,500 kilograms, while the AIM-174 weighs approximately 850 kg due to no booster motor. The US Navy's new missile has a speed of Mach 3.5, i.e. 3.5 times the speed of sound. The missile is considered to be a direct equivalent of the Russian Rh-37 Vympel long-range hypersonic air-to-air missile with a range of 400 km and the Chinese PL-15 long-range missile has a range of 300-350 km.

The SM-6 missile is three missiles in one

The SM-6 missile is three missiles in one
Photo Credit: Image credit: www.rtx.com/raytheon
China PLA Navy has reportedly deployed an advanced version of PL-15, the PL-17 missile, with a range of 400 km. The last dedicated long-range air-to-air missile the US Navy had was the AIM-54 Phoenix for the F-14 Tomcat. The fighter jet and the missile were out of service in 2004.

Why air-to-air missiles in the age of stealth fighters?

The US and China are extensively building new generation stealth fighter jets that can evade enemy radars by going undetected and striking inside their territory. The US began with the F-117 Nighthawk fighter bomber, then the F-22 Raptor and now the F-35, the most advanced fighter jet in the world.


When stealth fighters can avoid detection, then why are nations focusing on long-range air-to-air missiles? The answer is fear. China developed the PL-15 long-range missile, which can be deployed on the J-20, meaning, now a stealth fighter can strike targets from far away without getting detected. Recently, the PL-17 was deployed on its J-16 fourth-generation fighter. China's move shifted the balance of power in the air in the volatile region of East Asia.

P-15 is reportedly capable of destroying targets at a distance of 300km

P-15 is reportedly capable of destroying targets at a distance of 300km
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A stealthy Chinese aircraft could theoretically spot non-stealthy U.S. aircraft and shoot them down well outside the range where they could even fight back, Reuters reported, quoting Kelly Grieco, a senior fellow at the Stimson Center.

Even US stealth aircraft might be forced to fly dangerously close to fire their missiles. "If a Chinese fighter can outrange an American fighter, it means they can get the first shot," she said. "It's hard to outrun something that's travelling at Mach 4."


The AIM-174B was quickly developed to address this need. Now, US fighter jets can target Chinese military installations from long range, avoiding the danger of flying close to the targets.

Justin Bronk, an airpower and technology expert at London's Royal United Services Institute, told Reuters that China is developing long-range missiles, but the radar of launching aircraft may not be able to spot targets at such distances. "If you go too big and too heavy on missiles, then you end up trading off fuel," he said.

An Airborne Warning and Control (AWAC) aircraft acts as an aerial command centre during combat, and combat patrol missions. These aircraft detect the enemy from long range. The new missiles will be tasked to strike high-value targets like the AWACs as well.

The Island Chains

A potential direct military face-off between the US and China could happen near the South China Sea, a major transit route for maritime trade and the US Navy. China has threatened Taiwan with a military invasion and in the event of a full-blown Chinese assault, the US is bound by law to defend Taiwan.

The Taiwan Relations Act mandates that the US have a policy to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character".

American Foreign Policy statesman John Foster Dulles presented the Island Chain Strategy to keep a check on USSR and Chinese expansion by establishing military bases on the West Pacific. The USSR collapsed in 1991, but the Chinese economic and military expansion made the strategy important.

It works on several lines of defence for the US to stop any military invasion. The strategy has its roots in World War II when Imperial Japan took over most of East Asia and attacked Pearl Harbour, effectively bringing the US to the war.

Any military conflict around the South China Sea will fall within the First Island Chain, which comprises the Kuril Island, claimed by Japan but under Russian control, the Japanese archipelago, Taiwan, the north Philippines, and Borneo.

The First Island Chain is an important geopolitically important boundary for the US area with vast amounts of natural resources and economic significance. Any conflict would mean the US operating close to China.




The First Island Chain is the first line of defence for the US

The First Island Chain is the first line of defence for the US
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The US would come even closer to China if Beijing invaded Taiwan. An AIM-174B missile would keep its aircraft carriers and fighter jets at a safer distance and put PLA hunting ships and aircraft carriers out of range. Reuters reported quoting a Taiwan-based strategist that this would increase the likelihood of the US directly getting involved in a military conflict with China over Taiwan.

The game-changer missile would push the US further into the South China Sea region therefore titling the equation, which as of now remains in China's favour.

India And Its Air-to-Air Missile Arsenal

India has developed the Astra Mk1 beyond visual range air-to-air missile that is operational and mounted on the Su-30MKI fighter jet. The Astra Mk1 has a speed of Mach 4.5 with a range of 100 kilometres. The Astra Mk2 and Mk3 are under trial but are far behind what the US and China have.

Post a commentThe use of extremely long-range BVR missiles is based on the requirements of the Indian Air Force or Indian Navy unlike the US and China. The Astra Mk1 is operational on Su-30MKI so at present only the IAF operates the missile but later it will be developed for other aircraft too. India operates the Russian Novator KS-172 and the French MICA air-to-air missile.
 
with a range of mroe than 400 Km, the USAF can create a No FLy zone over whole of Taiwan without leaving their umbrella of AD cover
 
with a range of mroe than 400 Km, the USAF can create a No FLy zone over whole of Taiwan without leaving their umbrella of AD cover




Err, no.

J-20 with PL-15 will shoot down any carriers of this missile before they even know it is there.

J-20 is specifically designed to deal with threats like this.
 
Err, no.

J-20 with PL-15 will shoot down any carriers of this missile before they even know it is there.

J-20 is specifically designed to deal with threats like this.
Funny.. you are assuming the US aircraft to be a F18 or F 15. What if the carrier is F35 or F22. Anyway PL 15 is inferior to AIM120D and we are talking about a different classs of missile
 
Funny.. you are assuming the US aircraft to be a F18 or F 15. What if the carrier is F35 or F22. Anyway PL 15 is inferior to AIM120D and we are talking about a different classs of missile



Funny that you do not know that neither of these aircraft have internal bays that can store a missile of this size. It is far too large.

And PL-15 has a maximum range of 300km and the reason why US panicked to develop AIM-260.

AIM-120D is a different class of missile to PL-15 that is designed for ultra-long range engagements.
 
Funny that you do not know that neither of these aircraft have internal bays that can store a missile of this size. It is far too large.

And PL-15 has a maximum range of 300km and the reason why US panicked to develop AIM-260.

AIM-120D is a different class of missile to PL-15 that is designed for ultra-long range engagements.
Both F22 and F 35 can carry AIM260. and more importantly a version of AIM174 Iis already under development to be carried in 5th gen internal bay
 
Err, no.

J-20 with PL-15 will shoot down any carriers of this missile before they even know it is there.

J-20 is specifically designed to deal with threats like this.
..and you know this because? Well, you speak with so much confidence so the naive reader will likely assume you are an expert on modern air combat. Break it down for us, you claim the J-20 can shoot down the ’carrier’ before the ’carrier’ detects the J-20? Tell us how, what is the detection range of the J-20 radar?
At what range can the Chinese radar track the ‘carrier’? Remember a radars detection range is higher than the range at which it can track a hostile. Do you have these numbers for the J-20 from a reliable source?

Besides, you assume the ‘carrier’ will have to detect, track and guide its own missile this assumption is wrong. The launching platform i.e. the ‘carrier’ does not have to do any of it. Another asset, a drone a stealth fighter or a naval vessel can command the launch of the missile carried by the F-15 OR F/A SH-18 and guide the missile to its target while the ‘carrier’ remains beyond the reach of the J-20.
 
Both F22 and F 35 can carry AIM260. and more importantly a version of AIM174 Iis already under development to be carried in 5th gen internal bay
any PPT junks from USA is game changer💃
oh...the chinese already stole the above
"back to the future" tech
 
Err, no.

J-20 with PL-15 will shoot down any carriers of this missile before they even know it is there.

J-20 is specifically designed to deal with threats like this.
Ever heard of the USN CEC?

And following:


- is but one of the tools that are active.

I pointed out years ago that the USN is capable of detecting, tracking, and intercepting ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones. I pointed this out to Iranians in particular when they posted video feeds of drones watching American warships. I mentioned that they are aware but not doing anything in peacetime, but some laughed at my responses. Well, the USN demonstrated the obvious near Yemen not long ago.

J-20 is also checked. J-20 can be effective in regional conflicts but the USN is a different beast. The US has developed jets that can replicate rcs of J-20 and other jets and use them to train its forces and develop technologies to counter them. But other countries do not have this luxury. Therefore.
 
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The US has deployed its new long-range air-to-air missile that could potentially disrupt the balance of power in the Indo-Pacific in the US-China 'Cold War'. The AIM-174B missile, onboard the US Navy's F-18 Super Hornet, as seen in many pictures, is known to have an operational range of approximately 400 km.

The AIM-174B derivative of the Raytheon SM-6 surface-to-air missile operated out of US naval platforms. The SM-6 is a multi-role missile used for anti-air warfare, anti-ballistic missiles, and anti-surface warfare.

Latest and Breaking News on NDTV

The AIM-174B was reportedly first spotted during the Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) exercise, the world's largest naval exercise with 26 participants. The missile was attached to a hardpoint under the wings of the Super Hornet, garnering attention due to its potential to disrupt the balance of power in the air.

All About AIM-17B

Air Interceptor Missile (AIM)-174B is the air-to-air version of the SM-6 missile. It is readily available due to the existing production line for the SM-6 missile. The Raytheon SM-6 missile has a booster stage, which propels the missile into the air, followed by a solid rocket booster and sustainer motor of the missile work to hit the target.

The SM-6 weighs around 1,500 kilograms, while the AIM-174 weighs approximately 850 kg due to no booster motor. The US Navy's new missile has a speed of Mach 3.5, i.e. 3.5 times the speed of sound. The missile is considered to be a direct equivalent of the Russian Rh-37 Vympel long-range hypersonic air-to-air missile with a range of 400 km and the Chinese PL-15 long-range missile has a range of 300-350 km.

The SM-6 missile is three missiles in one

The SM-6 missile is three missiles in one
Photo Credit: Image credit: www.rtx.com/raytheon
China PLA Navy has reportedly deployed an advanced version of PL-15, the PL-17 missile, with a range of 400 km. The last dedicated long-range air-to-air missile the US Navy had was the AIM-54 Phoenix for the F-14 Tomcat. The fighter jet and the missile were out of service in 2004.

Why air-to-air missiles in the age of stealth fighters?

The US and China are extensively building new generation stealth fighter jets that can evade enemy radars by going undetected and striking inside their territory. The US began with the F-117 Nighthawk fighter bomber, then the F-22 Raptor and now the F-35, the most advanced fighter jet in the world.


When stealth fighters can avoid detection, then why are nations focusing on long-range air-to-air missiles? The answer is fear. China developed the PL-15 long-range missile, which can be deployed on the J-20, meaning, now a stealth fighter can strike targets from far away without getting detected. Recently, the PL-17 was deployed on its J-16 fourth-generation fighter. China's move shifted the balance of power in the air in the volatile region of East Asia.

P-15 is reportedly capable of destroying targets at a distance of 300km

P-15 is reportedly capable of destroying targets at a distance of 300km
Photo Credit: premium.globalsecurity.org
A stealthy Chinese aircraft could theoretically spot non-stealthy U.S. aircraft and shoot them down well outside the range where they could even fight back, Reuters reported, quoting Kelly Grieco, a senior fellow at the Stimson Center.

Even US stealth aircraft might be forced to fly dangerously close to fire their missiles. "If a Chinese fighter can outrange an American fighter, it means they can get the first shot," she said. "It's hard to outrun something that's travelling at Mach 4."


The AIM-174B was quickly developed to address this need. Now, US fighter jets can target Chinese military installations from long range, avoiding the danger of flying close to the targets.

Justin Bronk, an airpower and technology expert at London's Royal United Services Institute, told Reuters that China is developing long-range missiles, but the radar of launching aircraft may not be able to spot targets at such distances. "If you go too big and too heavy on missiles, then you end up trading off fuel," he said.

An Airborne Warning and Control (AWAC) aircraft acts as an aerial command centre during combat, and combat patrol missions. These aircraft detect the enemy from long range. The new missiles will be tasked to strike high-value targets like the AWACs as well.

The Island Chains

A potential direct military face-off between the US and China could happen near the South China Sea, a major transit route for maritime trade and the US Navy. China has threatened Taiwan with a military invasion and in the event of a full-blown Chinese assault, the US is bound by law to defend Taiwan.

The Taiwan Relations Act mandates that the US have a policy to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character".

American Foreign Policy statesman John Foster Dulles presented the Island Chain Strategy to keep a check on USSR and Chinese expansion by establishing military bases on the West Pacific. The USSR collapsed in 1991, but the Chinese economic and military expansion made the strategy important.

It works on several lines of defence for the US to stop any military invasion. The strategy has its roots in World War II when Imperial Japan took over most of East Asia and attacked Pearl Harbour, effectively bringing the US to the war.

Any military conflict around the South China Sea will fall within the First Island Chain, which comprises the Kuril Island, claimed by Japan but under Russian control, the Japanese archipelago, Taiwan, the north Philippines, and Borneo.

The First Island Chain is an important geopolitically important boundary for the US area with vast amounts of natural resources and economic significance. Any conflict would mean the US operating close to China.




The First Island Chain is the first line of defence for the US

The First Island Chain is the first line of defence for the US
Photo Credit: www.960cyber.afrc.af.mil
The US would come even closer to China if Beijing invaded Taiwan. An AIM-174B missile would keep its aircraft carriers and fighter jets at a safer distance and put PLA hunting ships and aircraft carriers out of range. Reuters reported quoting a Taiwan-based strategist that this would increase the likelihood of the US directly getting involved in a military conflict with China over Taiwan.

The game-changer missile would push the US further into the South China Sea region therefore titling the equation, which as of now remains in China's favour.

India And Its Air-to-Air Missile Arsenal

India has developed the Astra Mk1 beyond visual range air-to-air missile that is operational and mounted on the Su-30MKI fighter jet. The Astra Mk1 has a speed of Mach 4.5 with a range of 100 kilometres. The Astra Mk2 and Mk3 are under trial but are far behind what the US and China have.

Post a commentThe use of extremely long-range BVR missiles is based on the requirements of the Indian Air Force or Indian Navy unlike the US and China. The Astra Mk1 is operational on Su-30MKI so at present only the IAF operates the missile but later it will be developed for other aircraft too. India operates the Russian Novator KS-172 and the French MICA air-to-air missile.
It's a very interesting combination.

According to U.S. military standards, the NAIM-174B missile in the picture is a modified inert training missile for special testing.

According to currently known data, the 400Km range of the AIM-174B far exceeds the detection range of the F/A-18's airborne radar. It also far exceeds the detection range of the on-board radar of all fighters in service with the US military (the locking distance required to launch the missile will be shorter). Could it be that the US military is ready to massively replace the on-board radars of these fighters? At the moment, there is no information about the presence of a fighter airborne radar with a locking range of up to 400Km............

According to the current progress, AIM-174B will be at least 3~4 years away from official deployment. PLA's PL17 has already begun to be deployed on J16. When the deployment of AIM-174B officially began, I wonder what new PLA will come up with..............

So, how does the AIM-174B change the rules of the game?
 
The thing is the US carriers, surface combatants and land bases themselves will be wiped out by long range Anti Ship and Surface-Surface missiles, launched from inland China.
 
It's a very interesting combination.

According to U.S. military standards, the NAIM-174B missile in the picture is a modified inert training missile for special testing.

According to currently known data, the 400Km range of the AIM-174B far exceeds the detection range of the F/A-18's airborne radar. It also far exceeds the detection range of the on-board radar of all fighters in service with the US military (the locking distance required to launch the missile will be shorter). Could it be that the US military is ready to massively replace the on-board radars of these fighters? At the moment, there is no information about the presence of a fighter airborne radar with a locking range of up to 400Km............

According to the current progress, AIM-174B will be at least 3~4 years away from official deployment. PLA's PL17 has already begun to be deployed on J16. When the deployment of AIM-174B officially began, I wonder what new PLA will come up with..............

So, how does the AIM-174B change the rules of the game?
By the same logic, the proposed range of the PL-17 far exceeds the radar lock-on range of the J-16, rendering the missile's extended range capabilities ineffective without adequate targeting data. The PL-17's range, while impressive on paper, would be constrained by the J-16's radar limitations, particularly against stealthier adversaries.

The concept of mid-course guidance provided by a second aircraft, such as an F-22 or an E-2D Hawkeye, was indeed validated in the 1980s with systems like the AIM-7 Sparrow using semi-active radar homing (SARH). Modern developments have advanced this concept significantly. The AIM-120 AMRAAM, for example, uses a combination of inertial guidance and data link updates from a secondary platform, allowing the missile to receive target updates until it activates its onboard radar in the terminal phase.

In a real-world scenario, an AIM-176 could be launched by an F/A-18 Super Hornet, with mid-course guidance provided by an F-22 or F-35. These platforms possess AESA radars and low-probability-of-intercept (LPI) capabilities, which would allow them to track and engage targets like the J-16 without compromising their position. The F-22 and F-35's significantly lower radar cross-section (RCS) compared to the J-20 or J-16 enhances their survivability, enabling them to operate closer to hostile airspace undetected.

Furthermore, AWACS platforms like the E-3 Sentry or E-2D Hawkeye can provide long-range surveillance and target tracking, feeding this information via secure data links to the fighter platforms. This integrated approach, leveraging the network-centric warfare capabilities of the U.S. military, would allow for a coordinated and stealthy engagement strategy, making the AIM-176, or similar systems, highly effective against advanced threats.
 
The thing is the US carriers, surface combatants and land bases themselves will be wiped out by long range Anti Ship and Surface-Surface missiles, launched from inland China.
Without any consequence to the Chinese military targets? Almost all Chinese military targets are within 150 kilometers of the coastlines, and relentless salvoes of Tomahawks or similar systems can saturate and neutralize them.
 
Without any consequence to the Chinese military targets? Almost all Chinese military targets are within 150 kilometers of the coastlines, and relentless salvoes of Tomahawks or similar systems can saturate and neutralize them.
If it was so easy US would have done it 100x by now but they remember Korean war and how they got kicked out of North Korea by Chinese with chopsticks and machetes
 
By the same logic, the proposed range of the PL-17 far exceeds the radar lock-on range of the J-16, rendering the missile's extended range capabilities ineffective without adequate targeting data. The PL-17's range, while impressive on paper, would be constrained by the J-16's radar limitations, particularly against stealthier adversaries.

The concept of mid-course guidance provided by a second aircraft, such as an F-22 or an E-2D Hawkeye, was indeed validated in the 1980s with systems like the AIM-7 Sparrow using semi-active radar homing (SARH). Modern developments have advanced this concept significantly. The AIM-120 AMRAAM, for example, uses a combination of inertial guidance and data link updates from a secondary platform, allowing the missile to receive target updates until it activates its onboard radar in the terminal phase.

In a real-world scenario, an AIM-176 could be launched by an F/A-18 Super Hornet, with mid-course guidance provided by an F-22 or F-35. These platforms possess AESA radars and low-probability-of-intercept (LPI) capabilities, which would allow them to track and engage targets like the J-16 without compromising their position. The F-22 and F-35's significantly lower radar cross-section (RCS) compared to the J-20 or J-16 enhances their survivability, enabling them to operate closer to hostile airspace undetected.

Furthermore, AWACS platforms like the E-3 Sentry or E-2D Hawkeye can provide long-range surveillance and target tracking, feeding this information via secure data links to the fighter platforms. This integrated approach, leveraging the network-centric warfare capabilities of the U.S. military, would allow for a coordinated and stealthy engagement strategy, making the AIM-176, or similar systems, highly effective against advanced threats.
The range of the PL17 really exceeds the range of detection / locking by the J16's on-board radar. The PL17 is designed to be "A shooting, B guiding", and the J16 carries the PL17, J20 or AWACS aircraft guidance. It's a complete attack formation. However, the J16/J20 also carries the PL15 and can carry out attack missions alone outside the attack range of the F22/F35.

The PL15 has already been massively equipped, the PL17 has already begun to be equipped, the AIM-174B is still being studied and tested, and the range of 400Km is still only theoretical..............

In reality, J20 and F35 have already made contact and had "friendly exchanges", who discovered whom first? What is the real RCS of both sides? At the same time, the US military has also repeatedly made contact with the KJ-500 and conducted "friendly exchanges". Neither China nor the United States has released details, but you can get some preliminary judgments from the interviews with the US generals.

So, how will the rules of the game change?
 

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